 Anaron
join:2005-01-28
North York, ON | reply to nitric
Re: CNOC speed matching decision due next week said by nitric:said by stevey_frac:I just checked the Rogers site, and they are offering these speeds in my area:
25 / 2 / 80 GB cap for $48.99
30 / 10 / 500 GB cap for $51.99
45/ 4 / 150 GB cap for $71.99
150 / 10 / 250 GB cap for $122.99
Where did that second tier come from? It's AWESOME?! More cap then Tek, with 10 times the upload for similar money. When does Tek get that package?
Anyways, The equivalent package that I was on, was Extreme plus, that used to be 28 / 1. And it's not 45/ 4. That's why I was assuming that people getting 28/1 would get bumped.
Where do you see that? I checked the website and there's no 30/10.. can you take a screenshot? It's only available in some areas like the Maritime provinces (and apparently, some parts of Ontario). |
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said by stevey_frac:30 / 10 / 500 GB for $51 seems like it would be hard for Tek to match....
I'd be worried about people jumping ship for a package like that.
On top of the ability to persuade them into free modems and negotiating a percentage off (20% is the standard I think now for retentions)... yeah... |
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Ooo. Good catch. For some reason Rogers had geolocated me to Newfoundland. I'd assumed it would remember when I'd punched in my postal code a few days ago. When I switch back to ON, I get more like what I was expecting. |
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Anaron
join:2005-01-28
North York, ON | said by stevey_frac:Ooo. Good catch. For some reason Rogers had geolocated me to Newfoundland. I'd assumed it would remember when I'd punched in my postal code a few days ago. When I switch back to ON, I get more like what I was expecting.
Ah, so it isn't available in Cambridge, ON. I was genuinely surprised when you mentioned it. A deal like that is too good for Ontario.
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Sanek
join:2006-08-10
Kanata, ON | reply to mlerner
oh man I would get that $51.99 30/10/500GB plan in a heartbeat. Now please tell me how is it that they can't offer the same plan in Ontario. |
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said by bbhog:I'm also fearful of what aggregated will bring to consumers. Seems it might bring higher prices and stricter bandwidth restrictions You already have a general idea of what to expect since Start.ca is already on aggregated.
Another thing that the CRTC has to take into consideration is that if they do allow speed matching on non-aggregated, it would put Start.ca at a disadvantage for adopting aggregated from launch, which would be somewhat unfair when this is Start's only competitive edge for the time being.
And even if the CRTC did decide to force Rogers to offer the new speeds on non-aggregated, you would still be looking at a few more months before Rogers files new tariffs and the CRTC approves them - assuming the TPIAs do not dispute the rates if Rogers decides to adjust (inflate) non-aggregated rates to minimize potential prejudice to its aggregated TPIA clients.
So, worst case, the CRTC avoids shooting themselves in the foot and stick to its previous decision. Best case, non-aggregated ISPs will enjoy a short-lived victory and Start.ca who did the "right thing" by going with aggregated instead of betting the barn on end-of-life tariffs gets screwed by the CRTC and non-aggregated ISPs for the time being.
Whatever happens, everybody loses. Only thing that changes is who and how much.
Instead of wasting effort on silly/temporary stuff like this, that effort should go into having the aggregated per-Gbps rates sanity-checked (should be possible to get them down to about 8$/Mbps) and getting 10G aggregation into tariffs since everyone will inevitably be stuck with the former and need the latter to reduce recurring load balancing problems, which enables more efficient use of each purchased Mbps of capacity. |
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| said by InvalidError:Another thing that the CRTC has to take into consideration is that if they do allow speed matching on non-aggregated, it would put Start.ca at a disadvantage for adopting aggregated from launch, which would be somewhat unfair when this is Start's only competitive edge for the time being. I would say going Aggregated still gives Start one big advantage, over others like TekSavvy who are still on Disaggregated.
Access to Rogers' entire footprint. They can offer service in some areas where TekSavvy, et al, can't.
However, my understanding is that the rates on Aggregated are higher. Which is the reason other TPIA providers have been avoiding Agg. for as long as possible. So in that sense, yeah, Start has been screwed over. |
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 mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | reply to TSI Marc
Talk to the CRTC, they sent out the email. And I'm not sure why that's the only thing they linked.. but I think that's for the braodcasting decisions. |
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resa1983Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:7 | reply to mlerner
Greg O'brien from Cart posted alst night that the 2pm time may be for the wireless code draft today instead.
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 TSI MarcPremium,VIP
join:2006-06-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:16 | reply to mlerner
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So does this mean anything for us with videotron cable in Quebec? |
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resa1983Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:7 Reviews:
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| said by Neo:So does this mean anything for us with videotron cable in Quebec?
Naw.. Just Rogers.
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xdrag
join:2005-02-18
North York, ON | reply to nitric
30 / 10 / 500 GB cap for $51.99
That is a very hot package. With this whole speed matching fiasco it's enticing to start thinking about alternatives. Everytime there's a speed bump, i can see Rogers playing this game of cat-and-mouse. |
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resa1983Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:7 Reviews:
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| said by xdrag:30 / 10 / 500 GB cap for $51.99
That is a very hot package. With this whole speed matching fiasco it's enticing to start thinking about alternatives. Everytime there's a speed bump, i can see Rogers playing this game of cat-and-mouse.
Only available in Maritimes where Rogers is competing against Bell Aliant's FTTH, so Rogers runs FTTH as well. They can't offer that in Ontario widespread.
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Any updates? |
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 c2rothPremium
join:2006-04-26
Kitchener, ON
kudos:2
·TekSavvy Cable
| Nope. The 2PM announcement was for this: »www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/com100/2013/r130128.htm |
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resa1983Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:7 Reviews:
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| said by haissamyahya:Any idea when the announcement we care about will be made public? Sometime this week. It sucks, but they don't tell you what day. Chances are, it'll be released in the morning with the other stuff. If I get an email on it (which I should due to my comments on it), I'll post it up asap.
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