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resa1983
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North York, ON
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reply to mlerner

Re: CNOC speed matching decision due next week

Again, not today folks.


bbhog

join:2010-07-05
North York, ON

Looks like Thursday is going to be the winner! That's my guess.
Thanks for the updates Resa



Anaron

join:2005-01-28
North York, ON

said by bbhog:

Looks like Thursday is going to be the winner! That's my guess.
Thanks for the updates Resa

I hope it's Thursday but my guess is Friday.

Also, thanks resa1983.
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TwiztedZero
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Toronto, ON
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reply to crtc flip

Where are the bookies?



KnockKnock

join:2010-12-06
Chatham, ON
reply to mlerner

Would this decision determine whether or not Teksavvy would be able to offer the new Cogeco speeds in Chatham? Sorry, I'm really just trying to catch up on what is happening here.


alexpb1

join:2005-06-23
Barrie, ON
reply to mlerner

Thursday is the winner! Today the decision will be made.


resa1983
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Today is the winner.

Its not up yet, but it'll be here:
»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2013/2013-36.htm
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themisa

join:2012-05-22

The decision is in!


resa1983
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reply to mlerner

All denied.


koreyb
Open the Canadian Market NOW

join:2005-01-08
East York, ON
reply to mlerner

and it looks like if TSI and other on non-agg will not see speed upgrades without moving to aggregated. TSI I hope you have a backup plan to get moved to aggregated cause I see some mass exit coming fast.


resa1983
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said by koreyb:

and it looks like if TSI and other on non-agg will not see speed upgrades without moving to aggregated. TSI I hope you have a backup plan to get moved to aggregated cause I see some mass exit coming fast.

Its already planned.
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themisa

join:2012-05-22
reply to koreyb

Looks like Start.ca is going to see alot of new business.



HiVolt
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Toronto, ON
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reply to resa1983

Nice one CRTC... Robbers wins again, as the biggest TPIA ISP's are on disaggregated...
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cidknee0

join:2009-02-28
reply to resa1983

Does it really surprise anyone that the CRTC ruled in favour of the people who line their pockets?

I swear they are corrupt. But I hope TS moves to aggregated quickly.


vajcs85

join:2009-10-07
Laval, QC
reply to mlerner

Are we still going to see changes?
60 MBPS for QC?



HiVolt
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said by cidknee0:

I swear they are corrupt. But I hope TS moves to aggregated quickly.

Not gonna be quick at all...
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koreyb
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East York, ON
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reply to resa1983

said by resa1983:

said by koreyb:

and it looks like if TSI and other on non-agg will not see speed upgrades without moving to aggregated. TSI I hope you have a backup plan to get moved to aggregated cause I see some mass exit coming fast.

Its already planned.

Planned, but people will not wait months/year. It's just not how people work. TSI will see exit until they get this sorted out. It's sad, but it's a fact.

themisa

join:2012-05-22
reply to mlerner

It looks like we might get the higher upload speeds thought.


resa1983
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The ONLY good thing, is the last section.

Rogers is being forced to refile their tariff with the upstream speeds attached.

IF/When Rogers changes their 45/3 to 45/7 (as they're already available to some customers), they have to file a new tariff & provide it to wholesale.
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resa1983
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reply to themisa

said by themisa:

It looks like we might get the higher upload speeds thought.

Nope.
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koreyb
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reply to themisa

said by themisa:

It looks like we might get the higher upload speeds thought.

No.. from the way I read it, it only applies to aggregated, which tsi is not yet connected to. Speedmatching is only applied to aggregated.

EHTL

join:2002-10-31
Canada

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reply to koreyb

TSI must announce their response and their future plan ASAP before everybody moves to Start. I will be looking into switching to Start too because I need more reasonable upload speed for my VoIP.


resa1983
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reply to mlerner

Actually, its even better:

quote:
In the interest of clarity, the Commission considers that incumbent service providers should specify in their approved tariff pages for WHSA services, the upstream speeds made available to independent service providers, including any optional speeds that may apply.
This means if you're in an area that supports 45/7 on agg, Rogers has to provide it instead of the 45/3 they're pulling.

Thats HUGE. And great!
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bt

join:2009-02-26
canada
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reply to EHTL

said by EHTL:

I will be looking into switching to Start too because I need more reasonable upload speed for my VoIP.

VoIP needs relatively little upstream, and every TPIA speed available (that I know of) has enough upstream for a single VoIP session.

If you're running multiple concurrent VoIP sessions, that may be different.

bbhog

join:2010-07-05
North York, ON
reply to mlerner

I'm so depressed! I don't want to have to switch...
TSI please let us know the plan going forward.


koreyb
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reply to bt

said by bt:

said by EHTL:

I will be looking into switching to Start too because I need more reasonable upload speed for my VoIP.

VoIP needs relatively little upstream, and every TPIA speed available (that I know of) has enough upstream for a single VoIP session.

If you're running multiple concurrent VoIP sessions, that may be different.

VoIP and normal use on the same connection can be problematic. I have to QoS the crap out of my connection to avoid issues.

nitric

join:2012-01-29

said by koreyb:

said by bt:

said by EHTL:

I will be looking into switching to Start too because I need more reasonable upload speed for my VoIP.

VoIP needs relatively little upstream, and every TPIA speed available (that I know of) has enough upstream for a single VoIP session.

If you're running multiple concurrent VoIP sessions, that may be different.

VoIP and normal use on the same connection can be problematic. I have to QoS the crap out of my connection to avoid issues.

Add in a video call and all hell breaks loose.


mlerner
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reply to mlerner

This is the meat of it and why I had a feeling it would be denied.

14. Based on the above, the Commission considers that independent service providers have been given ample notice that TPIA services presently available at disaggregated POIs would only continue to be available until 15 November 2013. Further, the Commission considers that it would not be appropriate to require RCP and other cable carriers to offer new services over interconnection arrangements that are expressly being phased out. The Commission therefore denies CNOC's request that the new speeds approved in Telecom Decision 2012-706 be made available at disaggregated POIs.



Anaron

join:2005-01-28
North York, ON

No! No! No! No!



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TheHeeyyy

join:2011-12-14
North York, ON
reply to mlerner

said by mlerner:

This is the meat of it and why I had a feeling it would be denied.

14. Based on the above, the Commission considers that independent service providers have been given ample notice that TPIA services presently available at disaggregated POIs would only continue to be available until 15 November 2013. Further, the Commission considers that it would not be appropriate to require RCP and other cable carriers to offer new services over interconnection arrangements that are expressly being phased out. The Commission therefore denies CNOC's request that the new speeds approved in Telecom Decision 2012-706 be made available at disaggregated POIs.

So what would happen to Teksavvy if they didn't switch-over to aggregate before November 15, 2013? Can Rogers cut them off, or impose new tarrifs at a higher price?