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Re: [DSL] Bell FTTN 50 Mbps tier Problem is the odds of it being available is about one in 250 or .004 percent. Just like Telus they can only kid themselves and the public for so long before they realize this is basically like dsl and unless you live on the remote dslam it's forgetitsville. |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | said by ChuckcZar :Problem is the odds of it being available is about one in 250 or .004 percent. Just like Telus they can only kid themselves and the public for so long before they realize this is basically like dsl and unless you live on the remote dslam it's forgetitsville.
Damn I must be lucky... |
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SLAMtech
join:2009-12-03
London, ON
kudos:1 | reply to brad
Where there are fttn deployments ( Kitchener, Ottawa and GTA.....) you would be surprised at how many people qualify for 50/10. Every single apartment building served with FTTB should be able to attain those speeds as most apartment buildings on a 7330 have attainables of 140/30. O slams won't be a problem on most apartment buildings as well. |
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said by ChuckcZar :Problem is the odds of it being available is about one in 250 or .004 percent. If you can get 25/10, there is a roughly 40% chance that you can get 50/10. (Twice the speed = slightly less than half the reach.)
About half the people who have posted line stats on 25/7 or 25/10 VDSL2 since it got introduced nearly three years ago had attainable max rates over 70Mbps, so Bell had the ability to offer 50Mbps to about half the subscribers wherever 25Mbps is available all along.
The real mystery is why they decided to wait so long. |
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Re: [DSL] Bell FTTN 50 Mbps tier said by InvalidError:said by ChuckcZar :Problem is the odds of it being available is about one in 250 or .004 percent. If you can get 25/10, there is a roughly 40% chance that you can get 50/10. (Twice the speed = slightly less than half the reach.) About half the people who have posted line stats on 25/7 or 25/10 VDSL2 since it got introduced nearly three years ago had attainable max rates over 70Mbps, so Bell had the ability to offer 50Mbps to about half the subscribers wherever 25Mbps is available all along. The real mystery is why they decided to wait so long. I'd say for the appearance of annual upgrades when it is cheaper to physically do larger upgrades bi-annually. Looks better to customers and easier to justify price increases I'd speculate. |
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Haha my thoughts exactly. Rogers is killing them with their new speeds, this speed update is well overdue. Btw... Bell has unlimited caps now but it comes at an exta fee. |
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 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to brad
My line stats:
GAS: (removed) - In Service
Last State Change: 12/10 08:37:55 (Uptime: 221940)
Line Profile: V26944-20032_11328-2048_00011
DLM State: DISABLED | Equip. Type: OSLAM
Sync Rate: d26936.0/u11320.0 kbps
RCO: d43.0/u83.0%
Noise Margin: d25.0/u6.0 dB
Power: d14.0/u-22.0 dB
Attenuation: d6.0/u6.0 dB (Approx. Distance: 0.43~0.67km)
Block Count: d52397296.0/u78673736.0
It'll be tight, but my attainable on the downstream is 62,641 Kbps, and I would guess a 50 meg profile would be 53,872 kbps, so I should qualify for 50/10...
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| said by Guspaz:My line stats:
GAS: (removed) - In Service
Last State Change: 12/10 08:37:55 (Uptime: 221940)
Line Profile: V26944-20032_11328-2048_00011
DLM State: DISABLED | Equip. Type: OSLAM
Sync Rate: d26936.0/u11320.0 kbps
RCO: d43.0/u83.0%
Noise Margin: d25.0/u6.0 dB
Power: d14.0/u-22.0 dB
Attenuation: d6.0/u6.0 dB (Approx. Distance: 0.43~0.67km)
Block Count: d52397296.0/u78673736.0
It'll be tight, but my attainable on the downstream is 62,641 Kbps, and I would guess a 50 meg profile would be 53,872 kbps, so I should qualify for 50/10...
How can you check line stats in Bell's Sagecom? |
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 HiVoltPremium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
kudos:17 | reply to Guspaz
It looks like 50/10 is available for my phone number, on Bell's site... and I'm only served by a Lucent Stinger...
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 mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | reply to ChuckcZar
said by ChuckcZar :Problem is the odds of it being available is about one in 250 or .004 percent. Just like Telus they can only kid themselves and the public for so long before they realize this is basically like dsl and unless you live on the remote dslam it's forgetitsville.
Telus actually has around 60-75% DSLAM footprint, they're laughing all the way to the bank. Bell has no real DSLAM footprint (maybe 40%
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8
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said by HiVolt:It looks like 50/10 is available for my phone number, on Bell's site... and I'm only served by a Lucent Stinger...
Oh yeah that's not going to be the problem, what's going to be the problem is 50/10 with fibeTV. |
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HiVoltPremium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
kudos:17 Reviews:
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| said by kovy:said by HiVolt:It looks like 50/10 is available for my phone number, on Bell's site... and I'm only served by a Lucent Stinger...
Oh yeah that's going to be the problem, what's going to be the problem is 50/10 with fibeTV. Oh yeah, i see what you mean....
No FibeTV here, hehe... I wonder how long the stinger will hold up in terms of congestion once people start signing up for the 50meg tiers.
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | said by HiVolt:said by kovy:said by HiVolt:It looks like 50/10 is available for my phone number, on Bell's site... and I'm only served by a Lucent Stinger...
Oh yeah that's going to be the problem, what's going to be the problem is 50/10 with fibeTV. Oh yeah, i see what you mean.... No FibeTV here, hehe... I wonder how long the stinger will hold up in terms of congestion once people start signing up for the 50meg tiers. Yeah... yours still has congestion ? I know Bell recently put a 7330 beside my stinger. |
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HiVoltPremium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
kudos:17 Reviews:
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| said by kovy:Yeah... yours still has congestion ? I know Bell recently put a 7330 beside my stinger.
No, no congestion now (except teksavvy's), with bell login is fine...
I've seen 7330's put alongside the stingers in the area, except not mine!!! the horror!
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 c2rothPremium
join:2006-04-26
Kitchener, ON
kudos:2
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Well this is most interesting. I was wondering what Bell's response would be to Roger's recent re-speeding. They had to do something and this makes perfect sense.
Now TSI getting these new speeds is not likely for some time as it will take paperwork to make it happen I'm sure. |
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 Dones
join:2008-02-14
Toronto, ON | reply to brad
Am I the only one surprised that bell is offering unlimited for $30? I wonder if that applies to ftth. |
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| said by Dones:Am I the only one surprised that bell is offering unlimited for $30? I wonder if that applies to ftth.
If Bell's CBB rates to wholesale customers are truly based in reality, and not in fantasy, then they shouldn't be able to economically offer unlimited on 50/10 FTTN.
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mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | said by HeadSpinning:said by Dones:Am I the only one surprised that bell is offering unlimited for $30? I wonder if that applies to ftth.
If Bell's CBB rates to wholesale customers are truly based in reality, and not in fantasy, then they shouldn't be able to economically offer unlimited on 50/10 FTTN. Well we all know it's not based on actual costs.. |
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Perhaps they already know that the upcoming capacity rate decision will not be favourable to them, so this could be a way of "pre-empting" better packages that could be offered by the independent ISP's. |
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