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DrugTito

join:2013-01-17
canada

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VPN - START Cable customer

Which VPN service would you recommend for start customers?

I would use it for both netflix, downloading, etc.

Lowest latency possible.

If you can post some tests to google, dslreports, microsoft, etc, whatever you prefer (while connected to vpn).

Please advise.

Thanks!


silvercat

join:2007-11-07
Reviews:
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Well for Netflix (to access U.S. based Netflix) and to be able to watch NHL blacked out games (on NHL Gamecenter Live) and blacked out Blue Jays games (MLBTV), Unblock-US is a great option, as i use this. But Unblock-US is not a true VPN, so i know you weren't asking about this.

I'd be interested to know others' VPN experiences as well. PIA (Private Internet Access) has been talked about.


DrugTito

join:2013-01-17
canada
Is it like DNS? How does it work , if you don't mind sharing, if it doesn't take too much of your time, don't want to bother you


Perma

join:2011-12-20
reply to DrugTito
Unblock-US is a not a VPN, you're just changing your DNS. privateinternetaccess.com is the cheapest by far and has the most geographical options with unlimited shipping. You can pay anonymously by bitcoins, or TD money transfer, they also use shared IP's and keep 0 logs.

Guru

join:2008-10-01
kudos:2
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
said by Perma:

privateinternetaccess.com is the cheapest by far and has the most geographical options with unlimited shipping. You can pay anonymously by bitcoins, or TD money transfer, they also use shared IP's and keep 0 logs.

+1


neuromancer1

join:2007-01-22
York, ON
Reviews:
·VMedia
said by Guru:

said by Perma:

privateinternetaccess.com is the cheapest by far and has the most geographical options with unlimited shipping. You can pay anonymously by bitcoins, or TD money transfer, they also use shared IP's and keep 0 logs.

+1

-1 Crappy speeds, bad customer service, doesn't honor policy's. Don't signup with these guys they're the Bell Canada of VPN providers.

Guru

join:2008-10-01
kudos:2
What was your actual issue? I'm curious..


coaxguy

join:2009-07-29
kudos:1
reply to DrugTito
Also curious as I'm deciding between them and boxpn


silvercat

join:2007-11-07
Reviews:
·Start Communicat..
reply to DrugTito
said by DrugTito:

Is it like DNS? How does it work , if you don't mind sharing, if it doesn't take too much of your time, don't want to bother you

Yes it's true. It is "like DNS", so not a true VPN, but at least it does trick Netflix, etc... into thinking that you're in the US or UK (although with Netflix, in conjunction with Unblock-US, you can choose several different Netflix catalogues to choose from, such as Netflix UK). Although with Unblock-US, your internet traffic is not encrypted, like it would be if you signed up with a VPN provider. More info at »unblock-us.com . A "DNS" service can have limitations. Sometimes it doesn't always work to trick a server into thinking you're in another country.

SK10H

join:2009-06-19
reply to DrugTito
Using Start 35/3, PIA Windows VPN, connected to CA-Toronto

Tracing route to www.google.com [74.125.225.208]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 10 ms 11 ms 11 ms 10.116.1.1
2 12 ms 12 ms 11 ms 184.75.209.89
3 12 ms 11 ms 10 ms te0-0-0-4.ccr22.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com [38.104
.158.33]
4 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms te0-7-0-2.ccr22.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
.28.5]
5 26 ms 24 ms 26 ms te0-6-0-0.ccr22.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
.29.22]
6 26 ms 26 ms 26 ms te0-7-0-23.ccr21.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.5
4.87.193]
7 26 ms 26 ms 25 ms 38.104.103.130
8 25 ms 27 ms 27 ms 209.85.254.128
9 29 ms 26 ms 28 ms 72.14.237.130
10 37 ms 36 ms 38 ms 209.85.241.22
11 47 ms 46 ms 46 ms 72.14.239.49
12 49 ms 47 ms 47 ms 216.239.46.149
13 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 209.85.251.111
14 48 ms 46 ms 47 ms den03s06-in-f16.1e100.net [74.125.225.208]

Trace complete.


Tracing route to www.dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms 10.116.1.1
2 11 ms 12 ms 10 ms 184.75.209.89
3 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms te0-0-0-4.ccr22.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com [38.104
.158.33]
4 23 ms 22 ms 23 ms te0-0-0-5.ccr22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
.42.81]
5 23 ms 22 ms 24 ms te9-8.ccr02.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.
37]
6 25 ms 22 ms 23 ms te3-1.ccr01.ewr02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.2
25]
7 26 ms 22 ms 23 ms te2-3.ccr01.ewr05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.47.
162]
8 23 ms 24 ms 23 ms 38.122.158.2
9 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms 0.e1-4.tbr2.oct.nac.net [209.123.10.126]
10 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms vlan808.esd1.oct.nac.net [209.123.10.42]
11 26 ms 25 ms 24 ms www.dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]

Trace complete.


Connected to US East,

tracert www.netflix.com

Tracing route to dualstack.wwwservice--frontend-313423742.us-east-1.elb.amazonaw
s.com [50.17.184.64]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 20 ms 21 ms 20 ms 10.194.1.1
2 21 ms 21 ms 22 ms ve200-c4-b2-1.ewr4.choopa.net [64.237.37.113]
3 21 ms 27 ms 22 ms ve123-br1.pnj1.choopa.net [108.61.30.65]
4 26 ms 24 ms 24 ms ve67-br1.nyc2.choopa.net [108.61.93.110]
5 27 ms 21 ms 21 ms ae0.nyc32.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.78.89]
6 27 ms 27 ms 29 ms xe-11-0-1.was14.ip4.tinet.net [141.136.108.146]

7 29 ms 28 ms 28 ms vadata-gw.ip4.tinet.net [173.241.128.50]
8 29 ms 29 ms 52 ms 72.21.220.39
9 29 ms 29 ms 35 ms 72.21.222.155
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 29 ms 28 ms 29 ms 216.182.224.91
14 * * * Request timed out.
.....


Before the start 35/3 upgrade, on 28/1 connected to Netherland, utorrent typically max out at 1.6MB/s - 2.0MB/s due to upload being max out at 125KB/s. Haven't done any test after the upgrade but should be able to max out now.

PIA speedtest link on its site is what I also get when testing at speedtest.net.

MichelR

join:2011-07-03
Ottawa, ON
Reviews:
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·Rogers Hi-Speed
reply to DrugTito
I'm looking into AirVPN. I've requested a free trial.

Unblock-us is only about "masquerading" your location so you can access geographically-restricted content (e.g. stream a TV show from CBS.com when you're in Canada, access other countries' Netflix).


DrugTito

join:2013-01-17
canada
Thanks all for the info

Do you know how many connections they allow to each vpn? (for example privateinternetaccess) is it only one or?

Thanks!

Guru

join:2008-10-01
kudos:2
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
said by DrugTito:

Thanks all for the info

Do you know how many connections they allow to each vpn? (for example privateinternetaccess) is it only one or?

Thanks!

3..


DrugTito

join:2013-01-17
canada
Ping to Toronto PIA server is 10 ms, can't ask fo more

Looks good.

Thanks all !


TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON
kudos:3
reply to DrugTito
I use ibvpn myself.


creed3020
Premium
join:2006-04-26
Kitchener, ON
kudos:2
reply to DrugTito
I will post some stats for BoxVPN later tonight whom I use.


Perma

join:2011-12-20
reply to neuromancer1
Funny, I have amazing speeds with them, even when I'm connected to a server in Chicago. I download, stream netflix, and play games online while maintaining a solid ping.


TelusAnonUse

@shawcable.net
I have PIA with a Telus 25 and Eastlink 20 connection. In either case, with PIA running (I have a tomato router on each connection) I have never gotten more than about 3mbps while downloading, no matter if I'm using a US, Canadian or European setup. Eastlink sucks at any time (that 20 mbps connection usually runs around 5), but Telus can rock the full bandwidth without the VPN running.

mlord

join:2006-11-05
Nepean, ON
kudos:13
Reviews:
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Running the VPN on the router, or on the PC doing the downloading?

My experience to date with VPN on routers, even FAST routers, is that they choke the connection trying to keep up with the crypto. Running it on a fast enough PC gives me wire speed (30-45mbits/sec download). Running on a router chokes things down to 10-20mbit/sec, as does running it on a low-power Atom-based netbook.

Cheers

fazeTO

join:2011-03-22
Reviews:
·Start Communicat..
reply to DrugTito
I'm using PIA. I've connected via their in house software and also have via my router (RT-N66U). I usually get 10Mbit download from their Toronto or US servers. I'm on TSI 18 and will be switching to Start next month.

Some people have had bad experiences with PIA, but my experience has been pretty good. Its cheap and fairly easy to sign up/cancel etc.. Signed up for 1 month and will be going to a 1 year subscription.

elnad2000

join:2008-07-13
L'Ancienne-Lorette, QC
reply to DrugTito
I'm also a PIA customer. I really like their VPN. I'm on 10mbps cable with ElectronicBox. In uTorrent, a VPN to North York maxed out my 10mbps. This summer, I will switch to 20mpbs with EBox so I hope the connection to VPN will be as fast as now.

What I really like about PIA is the 3 differents connections at the same time. My HTPC is connected on East US to watch Hulu Desktop, my media server (for torrents) is connected to North York since this server can maxed out my connection and my main rig is not connected to have the best ping possible for gaming.

The only problem I have with VPN is that you cannot use QOS in your router. I have Toastman Tomato and if I activate QOS, the speed drops to almost nothing. I discovered that while playing with settings to find out why the VPN was so slow at first.

The only thing I would like with PIA is an option in the software they use to connect you to disconnect and reconnect every 48hrs so I don't have one of their shared-ips for too long. I prefer to renew my connection once in a while to clear everything.


silvercat

join:2007-11-07
Reviews:
·Start Communicat..
said by elnad2000:

The only problem I have with VPN is that you cannot use QOS in your router. I have Toastman Tomato and if I activate QOS, the speed drops to almost nothing. I discovered that while playing with settings to find out why the VPN was so slow at first.

That is strange. Very possible that your VPN packets were catagorized into the "crawl" class. Don't think you need to disable QOS. Maybe find out what outgoing port is used for your PIA VPN service, and set that to a higher class.