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Re: Yes, that PC cleanup app you saw on TV at 3 a.m... I agree that it's crap -
but according to marketing, it's probably legal. If they pay for the spot, someone will place the ad somewhere. You notice that it's at real off hours as drive time and prime time are expensive.
I complained as our business accepted ads from that damn name a star registry. Those ads are phony, but not illegal as it's their OWN registry. They never said the names would be recognized by any official naming registry like the IAU. |
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 RoboticsSee You On The Dark SidePremium
join:2003-10-23
Louisa, VA
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I cant remember the name of the company (but the ad is still running out here in Va.) but it claims the same thing being talked about here, and near the end of the commercial they show the guy clicking to get the job done (repair all the unwanted junk) and you see an email address there that I guess the info on the junk gets mailed to (?),and it is pc-pitstop. 0.O
I remember years ago pc-pitstop was a decent place to go to...guess they have fallen on hard times.
UPDATE: just went to their site...its PC Matic. Wow has that site changed (for the worse)
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join:2002-10-12
Montreal, QC
kudos:17 | reply to carpetshark3
Re: Yes, that PC cleanup app you saw on TV at 3 a.m... You're right ! Unfortunately, unless parties launch a suit or something or the Network(s) decide to pull the ads - they will stay where they are.
As always, buyer beware - just because it's on CNN doesn't mean it's not a hook. |
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 Phoenix22Death From AbovePremium
join:2001-12-11
SOG C&C Nrth
·Comcast Formerl..
| said by siljaline:You're right ! Unfortunately, unless parties launch a suit or something or the Network(s) decide to pull the ads - they will stay where they are.
As always, buyer beware - just because it's on CNN doesn't mean it's not a hook.
as a rule of thumb.................never impulse buy anything on t.v.
do all your homework..........and research....it'll pay off big time
one other thing may occur if your buying from the expert t.v. guy
or girl.......happens to the tune of billions$ per year.....w/c cards
see this thread:
»VISA Account Updater
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join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
kudos:1 | reply to sbconslt
said by sbconslt:It's worse than just that the software does what can be done for free. It's fraud, the capital F kind. It should anger you greatly that it goes on unchecked.
... and the television networks who allow these lies to be disseminated should be prosecuted for fraud right along with the perpetrators of the fraud. |
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 dbarber
join:2000-07-25
West Chester, PA | reply to antdude
If these guys can afford to keep advertising on TV, there must be SOMEBODY out there responding to these ads. If they weren't making money, they wouldn't continue to run ads.
I guess we just have to accept P.T.Barnum's saying that "There's a sucker born every minute." I don't see how we can educate all of the ignorant (read unlearned) people.
Oh well 
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 antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
United State
kudos:4
·RoadRunner Cable
| said by dbarber:If these guys can afford to keep advertising on TV, there must be SOMEBODY out there responding to these ads. If they weren't making money, they wouldn't continue to run ads.
I guess we just have to accept P.T.Barnum's saying that "There's a sucker born every minute." I don't see how we can educate all of the ignorant (read unlearned) people.
Oh well
Like spams on the Internet. 
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said by newview:... and the television networks who allow these lies to be disseminated should be prosecuted for fraud right along with the perpetrators of the fraud.
I'd vote for that. It's false advertising, and they're benefiting from it.
So when exactly did the Feds decide to stop enforcing truth in advertising laws? Or decide to let networks get away with things on cable channels they don't allow on the regular ones?
I smell lobbyists at work here ... |
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siljalineI'm lovin' that double widePremium
join:2002-10-12
Montreal, QC
kudos:17 | reply to Phoenix22
In other words some form of due dilligence |
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 vaxvmsferroequine fanPremium
join:2005-03-01
Wormtown
·Charter
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All the nurdly posters here know the ad is for crapware.
BUT the general public keeps hearing the dweeb-wannabe's tell them that they should clean their computer. The wannabe's don't know squat and offer no help. Jane and Joe User, (idiots according to 1 poster), see these ads and dig out the credit card.
Posting here saying it's a scam and fraud and such is preaching to the choir and serves no real purpose. Do something to protect the naive. Tell friends, family, co-workers, neighbors that these ads are snake oil. Offer suggestions and help. If you don't do it these types of bogus ads will keep on coming and threads like this will continue to pop up again and again.
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If you want to help people not get ensnared you want to have everything we've pounded the table about here rank highly in those search results. |
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Truthful Advertising laws have become a pain to enforce. It is extremely painful when the whargarble freedom of speech whargarble tries to defer the lies as being the truth to some peoples.
Look at some ads. They get played for a couple of days with millions of views before being taken down. But without massive fines and then forcing an highly visible advertised apology for the lie, then you can lie your ass off in ads always.
*Does the product do what they say in the commercial? Sure, but only if you analyze it word for word.
*'Fee diagnosis'*. Is what its diagnosing actually bad? The satisfied customers claims are questionable for truth since they don't mention having to pay for a fix, speed up, along with saying that 'other programs' couldn't do anything.
Since Government allows companies to advertise one price, while at the same time having tiny disclaimer print that says that the price advertised is the base price.
In order to get the full capabilities of the product, you need to pay more.
'Product only finds nasties but you have to pay to remove the nasties.'
Internet for $20, but you have to rent the modem and pay a fee for hookup and pay 6 months in advance and service/speeds is never guaranteed.
A contract for two years.
»www.sba.gov/content/advertising-···ting-law
»business.ftc.gov/advertising-and···g-basics
Under the law, claims in advertisements must be truthful, cannot be deceptive or unfair, and must be evidence-based. For some specialized products or services, additional rules may apply.
It should be pointed out that unless the consumers instigates a claim of false advertising, the government doesn't care.
In some cases(against a mega corporation with expensive lawyers) the customer then has to prove with some documentation that the product is a lie as advertised.
ex: Those wrist bands that promised to cure your ails. The companies documentation had very weak science proof behind it and the band was more placebo than 100% science. Science on how the body reacts to the energy of the universe is still a young field of science.
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Saint Reagan removed the 'truth in news laws'(aka: foxnews ratings bread and butter). Which lead to the various TV news sources fudging the news in order to get higher ratings than the other newscasts, resulting in less educated people, resulting in massive ratings for honey booboo and people screaming about the guvment.
Even Canadas Republican Prime Minister has been constantly looking at nullifying the law too to allow suntv news to lie in the news, which is outside of their 'lieing commentary morans'. Lieing commentary is not violating the lie laws, since it is not news, even though its a regular daily program with the same host on the news channel and talking about the news while adding hearsay and quoting rightwing extremists. |
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Charlottesville, VA
kudos:5 | There's always someone not as computer aware/literate that will pay, even for scareware drive-by malware installs. There was someone at work that paid the $50 for the scareware infection they had not once, but twice, to be sure the transaction went through. When I found out I of course advised immediately contacting the bank, and I took the system home and cleaned it. Many people seeing a scareware infection like that would be tempted to close it by clicking on the X in the upper right-hand corner, and even that can lead to an install (instead of closing it with Task Manager).
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 OlegBellsouth FastaccessPremium
join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL
kudos:2 | reply to antdude
Here is a guy calls Finally Slow ops i mean Finally Fast »www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV6k88kBAAM |
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RoboticsSee You On The Dark SidePremium
join:2003-10-23
Louisa, VA | lol great video. Felt sorry for the girl. She needs to go out and find a better job. |
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Phoenix22Death From AbovePremium
join:2001-12-11
SOG C&C Nrth Reviews:
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yes, exactly in a non corp. way |
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join:2001-12-11
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said by vaxvms:All the nurdly posters here know the ad is for crapware.
BUT the general public keeps hearing the dweeb-wannabe's tell them that they should clean their computer. The wannabe's don't know squat and offer no help. Jane and Joe User, (idiots according to 1 poster), see these ads and dig out the credit card.
Posting here saying it's a scam and fraud and such is preaching to the choir and serves no real purpose. Do something to protect the naive. Tell friends, family, co-workers, neighbors that these ads are snake oil. Offer suggestions and help. If you don't do it these types of bogus ads will keep on coming and threads like this will continue to pop up again and again.
computer illiteracy is not just seniors.........itz wide spread........you can not fix stupid........thatz why you should watch your neighbors trash.............so when they throw away a perfectly good system.........you'll be there to snatch it up ahead of waste management and the like
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said by vaxvms: Tell friends, family, co-workers, neighbors that these ads are snake oil. Offer suggestions and help. If you don't do it these types of bogus ads will keep on coming and threads like this will continue to pop up again and again.
I do just that, and most of my friends and family know to run these things by me or my son before doing anything. But there are a lot of people out there that I'm not in regular contact with who don't know about these things. I was referred by a sister of a friend a few years ago, who had a machine that was so badly infected that I had to resort to wiping the damn thing because when I tried to remove the infections, I lost the internet and couldn't get it back.
One of the many infections was one of those fake virus scanners. When I called her to let her know it was done, she had mentioned the scanner, and told me she had paid for the full version, but didn't think it did anything to help. I just rolled my eyes and told her, "I can't think of a nice way to tell you that you got screwed, so I'm just going to come right out and say you got screwed." |
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