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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
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Hmm...Austin...

I live there, and while LTE is rapidly expanding in the city, there are still large swaths of territory, most notably downtown and the UT campus area, up to Hyde Park, that weren't covered as of between a few days and a week ago. Maybe some sites have gone live with 4G since then in those areas, and I hope that for Sprint's sake they have, but I kind of doubt it.

xenophon

join:2007-09-17
All Austin sites not to complete til Aug...

»s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-n···ng-list/


Dan Jones

@verizon.net
reply to iansltx
That's typical for how they've been doing it. They get street-level LTE coverage up in enough areas of the city and then press "go."

Bob Azzi explained the strategy a while back:

»www.lightreading.com/long-term-e···40138907

Key point:

4G on the street
Bob Azzi, senior vice president of Networks at Sprint, talked to Light Reading Mobile about the operator's LTE strategy Friday in the wake of its initial launch in 15 markets.

"We weren't planning to wait until we had all our cell sites covered," explained Azzi. Instead the cities went live "when we determined that we had a sufficient footprint that enough people could find it in enough places."

Azzi says Sprint uses LTE propagation tools to look at coverage before launch and doesn't "have a firm percentage" on how much of a market is covered before launch. "We focus on street-level coverage ... although it obviously has in-building coverage in there as well," Azzi says.

Rather than launch on a specific percentage, Azzi explains, the operator's teams look at whether the coverage available will "prove a useful enough experience for our customers for us to launch it."

Just FYI.

Dan Jones
Site Editor, Light Reading Mobile

johnner1999

join:2008-12-27
Litchfield
this is why I decided to port out of Sprint... too much talk of upgrades, and less action as providing upgrades.

ydoucare

join:2003-03-12
Lafayette, IN
Reviews:
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said by johnner1999:

this is why I decided to port out of Sprint... too much talk of upgrades, and less action as providing upgrades.

Ignorance is bliss!

xenophon

join:2007-09-17
reply to johnner1999
What do you mean, they are doing at least a thousand sites every month. You can't go from zero to 34K sites in a year. They are behind VZW/ATT because they started the LTE rollout later. There are also doing a major cellsite overhaul, not just adding LTE like ATT/VZW are doing. So it takes longer per site and involves more equipment - some vendors have longer lead times.


anon anon

@charter.com
said by xenophon:

What do you mean, they are doing at least a thousand sites every month. You can't go from zero to 34K sites in a year. They are behind VZW/ATT because they started the LTE rollout later. There are also doing a major cellsite overhaul, not just adding LTE like ATT/VZW are doing. So it takes longer per site and involves more equipment - some vendors have longer lead times.

So? Why should he wait? If his area might take 2 years to get upgraded why can't he go with another carrier for 2 years then come back to Sprint when they can actually provide the service he wants?


AVD
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join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
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said by anon anon :

said by xenophon:

What do you mean, they are doing at least a thousand sites every month. You can't go from zero to 34K sites in a year. They are behind VZW/ATT because they started the LTE rollout later. There are also doing a major cellsite overhaul, not just adding LTE like ATT/VZW are doing. So it takes longer per site and involves more equipment - some vendors have longer lead times.

So? Why should he wait? If his area might take 2 years to get upgraded why can't he go with another carrier for 2 years then come back to Sprint when they can actually provide the service he wants?

hopefully S will reward loyalty and grandfather some rates.
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beavercable
Premium
join:2008-05-11
Beaverton, OR
I doubt that. I live in Oregon and have an S3. That means I can't use their 4g wimax or the lte. Meanwhile i'm being charged an additional $10 per month for 4g/lte service. I tried discussing this with customer service and their response was that smart phone users use the network more in general soo....

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
reply to xenophon
I know...I built that estimate. However that's running on numbers that are a week old. The completion date may jump a bit with this week's site update. At least, I hope so.

xenophon

join:2007-09-17
reply to anon anon
Yeah, I agree if your market is later than sooner then some won't want to wait. He said that Sprint isn't doing any upgrades, but they are at a pretty good pace considering it's a major overhaul of every site, just not everywhere at once.


bobjohnson
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Orlando, FL
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reply to beavercable
said by beavercable:

I doubt that. I live in Oregon and have an S3. That means I can't use their 4g wimax or the lte. Meanwhile i'm being charged an additional $10 per month for 4g/lte service. I tried discussing this with customer service and their response was that smart phone users use the network more in general soo....

You're paying more for unlimited data on a smartphone. Even 3g only phones pay the extra $10
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Happydude32
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join:2005-07-16
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reply to anon anon
said by anon anon :

said by xenophon:

What do you mean, they are doing at least a thousand sites every month. You can't go from zero to 34K sites in a year. They are behind VZW/ATT because they started the LTE rollout later. There are also doing a major cellsite overhaul, not just adding LTE like ATT/VZW are doing. So it takes longer per site and involves more equipment - some vendors have longer lead times.

So? Why should he wait? If his area might take 2 years to get upgraded why can't he go with another carrier for 2 years then come back to Sprint when they can actually provide the service he wants?

Exactly! Enough is enough. Fuck Sprint!

In June, I bought the Evo LTE on release day at full retail price, since I was still under contract with Sprint and not eligible for an upgrade for another year. Fast forward a few months later, the Saturday after Thanksgiving, I did the unthinkable and left Sprint for Verizon. I ported over two smartphones and a USB data card. I really hate Verizon and Verizon Wireless, and as a company I really like Sprint, but I couldn’t take it anymore.

With no announcement of LTE insight for any of the markets in Upstate NY, combined with piss poor 3G speeds, I had to leave. It hurt. Believe me it hurt. It hurt financially, I had a phone that I paid $650 for five months prior, along with an ETF to pay, and it hurt from a personal standpoint with hating Verizon and having been a Nextel and Sprint customer for a decade. But what good is unlimited data when you’re at dial up speeds? What good is unlimited data on a phone with a 720p display when you can’t stream high quality YouTube content unless you’re on wifi? Hell or steam anything period unless you’re on wifi. Here’s the sad part, I would get much better speeds roaming on Verizon’s 1X network, then I would with full bars on Sprints native EVDO signal.

With Sprint I was paying $200/month for two smartphones with unlimited mobile to mobile, 1500 shared anytime minutes, unlimited texting and unlimited data and 6GB worth of data on the USB card. With Verizon I’m paying $203 dollars for 10GB worth of data shared between two smartphones, the USB card, unlimited calling, unlimited texting and Visual Voice Mail on one of the phones. The difference, I can actually use the data I’m paying for with Verizon, whereas on Sprint, near the end I might as well been capped to 2GB, as that’s all I could use due to the slow network. I can live with a 10GB cap, especially, when you don’t have to wait forever for things to load. I use the air card sparingly. Only when I’m away from home with my laptop. 6GB on it with Sprint was overkill, for me I could have lived with 2-3GB, but the 5GB, that eventually turned into the 6GB plan, was the lowest they offered. Paying for something your able to use, is a lot better than paying for something you can’t use. At the end even the USB modem was a joke. I could be in major suburbs, and bounce back and forth between EVDO and 1XRTT three or four times within a 10 minute span, making the thing damn near useless.

Sprint customers, in the two months I’ve had my Droid DNA on Verizon, I have yet to encounter any buffering, at all, no matter where I am, even on 3G. Do you know what that’s like? No buffering on Pandora, Shoutcast or Sirius XM. No buffering on You Tube or DirecTV NFL Sunday Ticket Online.

When Sprint has a real 4G network, provided they have a decent handset selection, I will be back. But until then, fuck 'em!
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