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bt join:2009-02-26 canada kudos:1 Reviews: ·Start Communicat..	reply to Davesnothere Re: Bell Unlimited Promotion said by Davesnothere: said by InvalidError: said by HiVolt: And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed. If you need dry loop then you only have one Bell service and aren't eligible for the $20+ worth of discounts that were required to match TSI's price, so TSI should still be cheaper for dry even if Bell does not charge for it. Good catch, IE ! ...except he's wrong.
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Davesnothere No-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages join:2009-06-15 START&Cogeco kudos:6	reply to ChuckcZar said by ChuckcZar : Same holds true for 25/10 in cities such as Ottawa. Bell can't provide true 25/10 in most areas of Ottawa. Heck, BH#$ELL cannot even do 15/1 in Brockville, a city of 30K-ish (try 6M/800K if lucky), and not much better in the larger city of Kingston. GOUGEco cable BLOWS Bell away in THOSE places !
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Davesnothere No-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages join:2009-06-15 START&Cogeco kudos:6	reply to InvalidError said by InvalidError: said by HiVolt: And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed. If you need dry loop then you only have one Bell service and aren't eligible for the $20+ worth of discounts that were required to match TSI's price, so TSI should still be cheaper for dry even if Bell does not charge for it. Good catch, IE ! -- We have only 2 things about which to worry : (1) That things may never get back to normal (2) That they already HAVE !
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ChuckcZar @teksavvy.com	reply to HiVolt Same hold true for 25/10 in cities such as Ottawa. Bell can't provide true 25/10 in most areas of Ottawa.
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ChuckcZar @teksavvy.com	reply to londoner1 At a time when Telus is looking to enforce caps out west? I wouldn't want to be the one getting or looking at the bill at the end of the month. I'd head for the hills. Sounds like a con game after Netflix announced super HD and 3D.
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TSI Marc Premium,VIP join:2006-06-23 Chatham, ON kudos:14	reply to Davesnothere acknowledged in 60 seconds... not yet Gone in Sixty Seconds where Cage does that weird thing with his hands, getting hyped up to go do the run -- Marc - CEO/TekSavvy
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Davesnothere No-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages join:2009-06-15 START&Cogeco kudos:6	reply to TSI Marc said by TSI Marc: LOL. that damn thing.. Now THAT was a fast upstream !
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TSI Marc Premium,VIP join:2006-06-23 Chatham, ON kudos:14	reply to Davesnothere said by Davesnothere: said by londoner1: Saw this well poking around the Bell site At least Bell is calling it by its correct name this time - USAGE rather than Bandwidth. TSI listen up ! LOL. that damn thing.. -- Marc - CEO/TekSavvy
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Davesnothere No-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages join:2009-06-15 START&Cogeco kudos:6	reply to londoner1 said by londoner1: Saw this well poking around the Bell site At least Bell is calling it by its correct name this time - USAGE rather than Bandwidth. TSI, listen up !
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Dufus join:2010-10-20 Scarborough, ON	reply to HiVolt said by HiVolt: said by Guspaz: Have you actually looked at Bell's prices? Compare Bell unlimited with $10 for that and TekSavvy unlimited (using QC pricing): TekSavvy: $77.99/mth Bell: $71.95/mth + $10/mth unlimited = $81.95/mth TekSavvy is still cheaper. Even with the $4/mth bundle discount, Bell is only matching TSI's price. Except TekSavvy can't provide reliable 25mbps connection in peak hours, but Bell can. And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed. Don't forget about the modem rental!
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bt join:2009-02-26 canada kudos:1 Reviews: ·Start Communicat..	reply to InvalidError said by InvalidError: said by HiVolt: And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed. If you need dry loop then you only have one Bell service Internet/TV/Mobility
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camelot join:2008-04-12 Whitby, ON	reply to Guspaz I'm not questioning final pricing; I'm questioning their conflicting arguments behind it. It seems they are able to justify higher per-GB charges for wholesale, but the same costing reasons don't apply for their own customers.
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InvalidError join:2008-02-03 kudos:5	reply to HiVolt said by HiVolt: And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed. If you need dry loop then you only have one Bell service and aren't eligible for the $20+ worth of discounts that were required to match TSI's price, so TSI should still be cheaper for dry even if Bell does not charge for it.
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HiVolt Premium join:2000-12-28 Toronto, ON kudos:17 Reviews: ·TekSavvy Cable ·TekSavvy DSL	reply to Guspaz said by Guspaz: Have you actually looked at Bell's prices? Compare Bell unlimited with $10 for that and TekSavvy unlimited (using QC pricing): TekSavvy: $77.99/mth Bell: $71.95/mth + $10/mth unlimited = $81.95/mth TekSavvy is still cheaper. Even with the $4/mth bundle discount, Bell is only matching TSI's price. Except TekSavvy can't provide reliable 25mbps connection in peak hours, but Bell can. And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed. -- F**K THE NHL. Go Blue Jays 2013!!!
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Guspaz Guspaz Premium,MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC kudos:20	reply to camelot said by camelot: No, but the $10 in a bundle will. What does a "bundle" have to do with the capacity rates they claim are expensive. How does bundling with other services somehow lower capacity rates for them? Have you actually looked at Bell's prices? Compare Bell unlimited with $10 for that and TekSavvy unlimited (using QC pricing): TekSavvy: $77.99/mth Bell: $71.95/mth + $10/mth unlimited = $81.95/mth TekSavvy is still cheaper. Even with the $4/mth bundle discount, Bell is only matching TSI's price. -- Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org
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mlerner Premium join:2000-11-25 Nepean, ON kudos:5	reply to HiVolt said by HiVolt: said by mlerner: Not necessarily, the wholesale costing is recognized as separate than retail pricing. The only thing that is required is that all retail plans have to be offered on wholesale terms which may or may not include unlimited usage addons. But Bell fought for all this time against unlimited usage for wholesale, and simply do an about face, and the wholesale is stuck with all these overpriced capacity charges, while Bell just dances around it now? Yup, that's the way it's always worked under previous CRTC management. The CRTC might re-work wholesale costing altogether but Bell is free to offer anything to their own clients. That's the single biggest reason wholesale is a mess and Bell still reaps all the profit.
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JonyBelGeul join:2008-07-31	reply to londoner1 This is how it works. Bell overcharges wholesale indies to subsidize its own retail rebates and bundles and promotions, then overcharges its own retail once promotion ends or contract ends or changes. The alternative is that Bell charges wholesale indies based on genuine costs, but then has to drop its own retail prices to compete with indies who get ridiculously cheap wholesale capacity and access. Which is the most likely to be true? -- My blog. Wanna Git My Ball on Blogspot.
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camelot join:2008-04-12 Whitby, ON Reviews: ·TekSavvy DSL	reply to Guspaz said by Guspaz: Citing the $30/mth for unlimited won't get CNOC anywhere. TekSavvy has a max of $25/mth for unlimited, on top of lower prices to boot. No, but the $10 in a bundle will. What does a "bundle" have to do with the capacity rates they claim are expensive. How does bundling with other services somehow lower capacity rates for them?
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HiVolt Premium join:2000-12-28 Toronto, ON kudos:17 Reviews: ·TekSavvy Cable ·TekSavvy DSL	reply to mlerner said by mlerner: Not necessarily, the wholesale costing is recognized as separate than retail pricing. The only thing that is required is that all retail plans have to be offered on wholesale terms which may or may not include unlimited usage addons. But Bell fought for all this time against unlimited usage for wholesale, and simply do an about face, and the wholesale is stuck with all these overpriced capacity charges, while Bell just dances around it now? -- F**K THE NHL. Go Blue Jays 2013!!!
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Guspaz Guspaz Premium,MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC kudos:20	reply to londoner1 Citing the $30/mth for unlimited won't get CNOC anywhere. TekSavvy has a max of $25/mth for unlimited, on top of lower prices to boot. -- Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org
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