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Davesnothere
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reply to londoner1

Re: Bell Unlimited Promotion

said by londoner1:

Saw this well poking around the Bell site

 
At least Bell is calling it by its correct name this time - USAGE rather than Bandwidth.

TSI, listen up !


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said by Davesnothere:

said by londoner1:

Saw this well poking around the Bell site

 
At least Bell is calling it by its correct name this time - USAGE rather than Bandwidth.

TSI listen up !

LOL. that damn thing..
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said by TSI Marc:

LOL. that damn thing..

 
Now THAT was a fast upstream !


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ChuckcZar

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At a time when Telus is looking to enforce caps out west? I wouldn't want to be the one getting or looking at the bill at the end of the month. I'd head for the hills. Sounds like a con game after Netflix announced super HD and 3D.



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Same hold true for 25/10 in cities such as Ottawa. Bell can't provide true 25/10 in most areas of Ottawa.



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said by InvalidError:

said by HiVolt:

And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed.

If you need dry loop then you only have one Bell service and aren't eligible for the $20+ worth of discounts that were required to match TSI's price, so TSI should still be cheaper for dry even if Bell does not charge for it.

 
Good catch, IE !

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said by ChuckcZar :

Same holds true for 25/10 in cities such as Ottawa.

Bell can't provide true 25/10 in most areas of Ottawa.

 
Heck, BH#$ELL cannot even do 15/1 in Brockville, a city of 30K-ish (try 6M/800K if lucky), and not much better in the larger city of Kingston.

GOUGEco cable BLOWS Bell away in THOSE places !

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said by Davesnothere:

said by InvalidError:

said by HiVolt:

And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed.

If you need dry loop then you only have one Bell service and aren't eligible for the $20+ worth of discounts that were required to match TSI's price, so TSI should still be cheaper for dry even if Bell does not charge for it.

 
Good catch, IE !

...except he's wrong.


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reply to londoner1

What came to mind here when I saw that: nowthat there is an Unlimited SKU in their system, it probably means that retention will be able to offer it to you when trying to prevent you from leaving Bell due to "low quotas".


Dcite

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Drats, now I need a new excuse to not go with Bell for their internet.
Maybe I'll complain about no static IP and it being more expensive than "that name which I must never type as long as I am with that other isp".

*Makes note to do homework on comparing prices*


ns1225

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reply to londoner1

Anyone think this is some sort of preemptive move regarding the new CBB rates that are about to come out?


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said by ns1225:

Anyone think this is some sort of preemptive move regarding the new CBB rates that are about to come out?

Yup.
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said by ns1225:

Anyone think this is some sort of preemptive move regarding the new CBB rates that are about to come out?

I think that is exactly what this is about.
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InvalidError

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said by bt:

...except he's wrong.

How many people on wholesale DSL will choose Bell for mobile and sign up for FibeTV? The impression I get from being around here for a few years tells me not many.

Sure, that isn't exactly zero but it is close enough in my book.


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said by InvalidError:

How many people on wholesale DSL will choose Bell for mobile and sign up for FibeTV? The impression I get from being around here for a few years tells me not many.

Sure, that isn't exactly zero but it is close enough in my book.

You can't get FibeTV standalone without internet... at least not officially, as there have been some posts in the past about some being able to get a discounted price without Internet.
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said by HiVolt:

You can't get FibeTV standalone without internet... at least not officially, as there have been some posts in the past about some being able to get a discounted price without Internet.

That option (that sales reps will try to avoid talking about) is called the "0GB plan", just need to wipe the Internet login to avoid accidental usage.


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We are building a pricing comparison right now. I will post it in a couple of minutes.

Cheers,

Andre



shrug

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Seeing that Bell is offering unlimited again, then I see no reason at all why TSI should not offer a promo of login only accounts for 10$/month.



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said by shrug :

Seeing that Bell is offering unlimited again, then I see no reason at all why TSI should not offer a promo of login only accounts for 10$/month.

That would not be viable under the CBB scheme. This used to work back in the day, because it only cost TSI's own transit (which was cheap), and not Bell's transit (made up inflated charges).
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reply to londoner1

Bhell has a nasty way of sneaking in incremental price increases on their sheeple. Hmmm looks like it might be a favorable ruling for the indies on CBB. I would still stay with TSI - at least they're honest and in the open.
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They're not sneaky about it. They're very open with the increases on their billing:

-Recovery fee (for getting sued by you)
-Government "fee" (pocketed by us)
-Recovery fee (for offering you bundle discount)
-Recovery fee (for lowering your prices through retention)
-Business action plan (to pocket more money)



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reply to HiVolt

said by HiVolt:

said by InvalidError:

How many people on wholesale DSL will choose Bell for mobile and sign up for FibeTV? The impression I get from being around here for a few years tells me not many.

Sure, that isn't exactly zero but it is close enough in my book.

You can't get FibeTV standalone without internet... at least not officially, as there have been some posts in the past about some being able to get a discounted price without Internet.

You're all forgetting that Bell also offers satellite (ExpressVu) - no internet required for that, and I know many people that subscribe to it without any other Bell services.


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Click for full size
Here is the comparison graph Andre said we would be posting.
Graph

LastDon

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I really don't understand how bell can get away with such advertising..

3 bundle services to get such an advertised rate..

Its like they are forcing their services on you if you are their customer just to get the 10 dollar rate.

so sneaky their advertising.

and all these companies with their bundling bs is so stupid.



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reply to HiVolt

said by HiVolt:

...

So hockey is back and THIS is your avatar?


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said by TSI Jon:

Here is the comparison graph Andre said we would be posting.

Your calculations are incorrect in that the bundled pricing doesn't take the bundle discount into account, and those are specifically the Ontario pricing, since the price is different (much higher) in Quebec.
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And is the forced modem rental included?
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said by TigerLord:

said by HiVolt:

...

So hockey is back and THIS is your avatar?

Yep!
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shrug

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reply to HiVolt

said by HiVolt:

said by shrug :

Seeing that Bell is offering unlimited again, then I see no reason at all why TSI should not offer a promo of login only accounts for 10$/month.

That would not be viable under the CBB scheme. This used to work back in the day, because it only cost TSI's own transit (which was cheap), and not Bell's transit (made up inflated charges).

I don't think so.
Rates would have to come down for TSI purchased Bell-transit as well, which could be why we are seeing Bell with unlimited, and keep in mind we are waiting for the CRTC release on this.

If Bell can offer unlimited for 10$ and no one else due to the price rigging at the CRTC (and which no one could possibly compete with), then that would constitute an "undue preference" that no one could compete with. Would break a couple of rules I would think.

No?