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ssavoy
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join:2007-08-16
Dallas, PA
reply to Network Guy

Re: Slow....

Have you been following the refarm at all? They're adding HSPA+ on 1900MHz.


Network Guy
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New York
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I guess you mean replacing? I don't think you can operate GSM and HSPA on the same band, can you?

I'm not happy that they're refarming 1700 MHz UTMS to LTE. That will make my phone EDGE-only with the prepaid MVNO I'm using now.


ssavoy
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I believe they are giving less bandwidth to EDGE to make room for 1900MHz HSPA+. EDGE isn't going away completely in those areas. I didn't think all of their phones supported PCS 3G so I assumed they were just adding another band rather than replacing.


Network Guy
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The HTC Sensation I'm using does PCS 3G on 900, 1700 and 2100, and EDGE on 850, 900, 1800 and 1900.

Looking at that wiki document again, it looks like you can operate GSM and UTMS on the same band. It seems they're doing it already in certain parts of the country.

I guess they're getting rid of GSM all together. Interesting.....

I need to read up more on how that works. I always thought the only way T-Mobile could offer simultaneous voice and data on a handset is by using GSM to place/receive calls and UTMS for data.


Cobra11M

join:2010-12-23
Mineral Wells, TX

sounds like to me, voice calls over data (VOIP).. something Metro PCS has already pretty much finished rolling out..

kinda weird but then again could be better for T-Mobile in the long haul... also I wish my iPhone 4s would pick up more than GPRS!!!! just gotta wait for the reframing to be finished.. prob gonna be after metro gets bought out here in town lol



CCNnorthcali

join:2004-03-07
San Francisco, CA
reply to Network Guy

T-Mobile are actually not getting rid of GSM, they're just reducing the amount of space allocated to it. The new Ericsson Air equipment they are using on the towers allow 1900 GSM+HSPA and 1700/2100 HSPA+LTE all from the same panel. This also allows the towers to do some serious load balancing between between the frequencies as well. Pretty amazing when you think about it and a much more integrated approach than AT&T or Verizon are taking.

So don't worry, all that AWS HSPA+ and PCS GSM coverage isn't going away anytime soon. The worst that is happening is in some markets they are reducing it from HSPA+42 (Dual Channel) to HSPA+21 (Single Channel) in order to fit LTE in the amount of spectrum available in those specific markets.



djdanska
Rudie32
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San Diego, CA
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reply to Network Guy

said by Network Guy:

I guess you mean replacing? I don't think you can operate GSM and HSPA on the same band, can you?

I'm not happy that they're refarming 1700 MHz UTMS to LTE. That will make my phone EDGE-only with the prepaid MVNO I'm using now.

in a few years maybe. No loss of aws hspa coverage.
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djdanska
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reply to Network Guy

said by Network Guy:

The HTC Sensation I'm using does PCS 3G on 900, 1700 and 2100, and EDGE on 850, 900, 1800 and 1900.

Looking at that wiki document again, it looks like you can operate GSM and UTMS on the same band. It seems they're doing it already in certain parts of the country.

I guess they're getting rid of GSM all together. Interesting.....

I need to read up more on how that works. I always thought the only way T-Mobile could offer simultaneous voice and data on a handset is by using GSM to place/receive calls and UTMS for data.

umts/hspa has always had the ability for calling & data at the same time. No 2g network technically needed and T-Mobile does have some he hspa only areas.
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The day the child realizes that all adults are imperfect, he becomes an adolescent; the day he forgives them, he becomes an adult. The day he forgives himself, he becomes wise.
Alden Nowlan


bobjohnson
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join:2007-02-03
Orlando, FL
reply to Network Guy

We had this discussion in an old thread. They are gonna be running all the technologies until at least 2015.

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