 sivranOpera convertPremium join:2003-09-15 Arlington, TX kudos:1 | reply to digitalfutur
Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol I'd rather just have Office 2007 Portable.
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| reply to Dustyn said by Dustyn:Why would you use a cracked copy? mainly just for reference... I don't use it frequently, it's mainly so I can support the office junkies that still use that crap. I have already told them as of this year june I won't be supporting MS office problems or applications anymore.
So the death knell for office for me comes in june of this year. -- If you have a topic in the direct forum please reply to it or a post of mine, I get a notification when you do this. Koetting Ford, Granite City, illinois... YOU'RE FIRED!!
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1 edit | reply to dellsweig I did a thread on this a while back. Home users really get a deal compared to Business users. It isn't a half bad deal for the home user, especially since they are raising the price of the perpetually licensed software. You basically get Office Pro, but instead of paying $350/2 (1 install now) installs, you pay $100 per year for 5. Since MS updates Office every 3 years a person who would buy Pro every three years comes out ahead. Way ahead if they have 3 or more devices to put it on. I typically buy the lowest price version that comes with Outlook and that has averaged around $250 every three years or so.
I'm not a big fan of subscription models, but they can be a great deal if you use a lot of the included software. The Adobe Creative Cloud is one example of a great deal if you use a lot of their software. I'm considering taking Microsoft up on their subscription. You can buy into it from Staples or just about anywhere. Home and Business, which is the edition I would buy if perpetually licensed, would cost $220 and it would only work on one PC. I can part with less than half that cash the first year and have software for 5 PCs. Very tempting. |
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 AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium join:2003-02-06 Onion, NJ kudos:1 | I use open office and google docs.
My employer sells home keys for $1, but I didn't take them up on the offer. -- * seek help if having trouble coping --Standard disclaimers apply.-- |
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 Mele20Premium join:2001-06-05 Hilo, HI kudos:4 | reply to dellsweig I only want Word. Plus, I hate the ribbon (hate the ribbon in Windows 8 Explorer also....so fat, so cumbersome to use with way, way too many icons that are extremely dumb looking too instead of WORDS. I am not functionally illiterate like 75% of Americans are (hence the move from WORDS to icons).
Anyhow, I now use Open Office as I can't install my 3 copies of Works Suite with Word 2002 on Windows 8. If Microsoft still had Works Suite, I would have purchased the latest version even if that meant the ribbon in Word. I liked the other software in Works Suite. I don't need Office and I hate anything in the cloud. -- When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
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 OctaveanPremium,MVM join:2001-03-31 New York, NY kudos:1 1 edit | reply to norwegian said by norwegian:said by Octavean:said by BillRoland:I don't much like the idea of subscription based software. I've got a TechNet subscription so I still have access to a number of different versions of MS Office,.... Isn't Technet only a yearly subscription too now, where it wasn't before? It seems Microsoft are aligning with other software makers to earn extra dollars, it is only a matter of time before the O/S is the same. The software one would get from TechNet is not subscription based,....currently. So, the keys available to me now for the software I choose to download and use will still be available to me even if I do not renew my subscription.
There are restrictions naturally though.
As for Windows there will be a subscription version coming soon or so I hear. I posted a thread on it not too long ago.
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Actually the article more or less seems to be addressing a yearly OS update cycle for Windows starting some time in mid 2013. |
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| reply to Kramer said by Kramer:I did a thread on this a while back. Yep - remember the discussion, but for me and Outlook, it was not worth the effort.
This was the topic from memory: »[Info] Microsoft Office Users, Price Going Way Up -- The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke
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 KramerPremium,Mod join:2000-08-03 Richmond, VA kudos:2 | I'm very much interested in the improvements MS has made with IMAP in Outlook. Apparently they really worked on it to make the experience better. |
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| Don't get me wrong, I want Outlook, but the costs involved were not allowing the benefits. I wonder if they will ever look at it as an option for the home user.
As for email retrieval, 2007 is giving me and has for some time problems at home with the user credentials, anything improved would be worth looking at.
For work, there seems to be a real issue with user authentication for 2007 and I've had serious SSL folder corruption with reports with it being over some sort of limit - clearing it fixed it. 2010 seems even more of a pain. I deleted the SSL folder contents info regarding images, PDFs, etc and 2010 spat the dummy, what a mess due to the way it works the "live user" - I can't remember the term for it right now, but cleaning the 2007 version against the 2010 version was easy, I'll never delete the contents of the stored Outlook SSL contents folder for 2010 ever again without more research.....what a headache it was.
Maybe that was just my trouble and others do not see it. An improvement would be appreciated. -- The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke
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 | reply to dellsweig You can still purchase a perpetual license for the very reasonable price of $139.99. Or choose to subscribe for a single month for $9.99. The $100 yearly fee nets you 20GB of Skydrive and 60 minutes of Skype credit too. |
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 | reply to Kramer said by Kramer:I'm very much interested in the improvements MS has made with IMAP in Outlook. Apparently they really worked on it to make the experience better. If they have, I can't tell and I've been running Outlook 2013 for months. IMAP is still slow, buggy, doesn't push, and when new email arrives you get a toast notification ... but nothing in Outlook is bolded.
On the plus side, if you have an Outlook Anywhere connection (Exchange RPC, etc.) your username/password are now remembered properly. |
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 | reply to AnonFTW said by AnonFTW :said by Kramer:I'm very much interested in the improvements MS has made with IMAP in Outlook. Apparently they really worked on it to make the experience better. If they have, I can't tell and I've been running Outlook 2013 for months. IMAP is still slow, buggy, doesn't push, and when new email arrives you get a toast notification ... but nothing in Outlook is bolded. On the plus side, if you have an Outlook Anywhere connection (Exchange RPC, etc.) your username/password are now remembered properly. Outlook has always been a POS since it came on the scene. Slow, buggy, cumbersome, and just a horrible experience. |
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 AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium join:2003-02-06 Onion, NJ kudos:1 | reply to brianiscool said by brianiscool:open office does not work well with docx files based on what? It works perfectly for me, better than Office 2003 without the add on. -- * seek help if having trouble coping --Standard disclaimers apply.-- |
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 digitalfuturSees More Than ShownPremium join:2000-07-15 BurlingtonON kudos:2 | reply to dellsweig For those of us with a corporate agreement, or who know a friendly IT person, Office 2013 Professional Plus, with all 9 Office Apps, is available now for $9.95 from the MS Home Use Program.
»www.microsofthup.com/hupus/home.···ry_id=US
It's the perpetual license version, but since this offer is available every time a full version of Office is released; the price more than offsets the 2 license restriction. -- Logic requires one to deal with decisions that one's ego will not permit. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing - Edmund Burke. |
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| reply to Octavean said by Octavean:Actually the article more or less seems to be addressing a yearly OS update cycle for Windows starting some time in mid 2013. Well if that is the case, is is closer than I imagined. I'll be interested to see how that pans out. |
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 H2OuUp2Happy to be herePremium join:2002-03-15 Oklahoma City, OK | reply to dellsweig Sure there are a lot of alternatives out there. Problem is in the corporate environment you have a lot of custom written programs that just don't work on the "free" versions correctly.
The biggest one is Excel. People use it for so much more than what it is. Excel can be used to mimic Word, PowerPoint, and Access with pretty good efficiency. With this being said I think the biggest reason people stay with Office over the others is Excel (VBA) and the many custom programs that simply don't work right in the other versions of the free spreadsheets.
The casual user might not see the compatibility problems, but they are there. In fact for many the alternatives will work just fine. -- He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot |
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| reply to dellsweig said by dellsweig:http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/29/technology/office-365/index.html?iid=HP_LN
I have been using OpenOffice which works fine.
There are some power users that might use SOME of the Office features but 99% just use basics available in ANY word processor Yep, $100 a year for 5 licenses of Office that would cost you $400 a year to buy, per license, if you got the same suite shrink-wrapped as office2013. So, in 20 years you'd break even on just buying 5 copies outright. -- My place : »www.schettino.us |
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| reply to jl747 said by jl747:If you use Office 365 then you have save all your docs in the cloud. You can not directly ave them to your computer. Wow, no. Not even close to correct. This is just a subscription license for Office. You can run locally, install the applications locally, run without an internet connect, and of course save/open files locally. -- My place : »www.schettino.us |
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