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Re: [iPad] 128 GB iPad 4 incoming..... It's a $1000 for the cellular version! Count me out. |
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robbinPremium,MVM
join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX
kudos:1 | Actually the price isn't that bad. Starting from the basic model, for $100 more you can add 16 Gb, making it have 32. Then for another $100, you can add 32 Gb making it have 64. Now for another $100 we can add 64 Gb bringing the total to 128. What doesn't make sense and is a total ripoff is paying $100 for 16 Gb of memory. |
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| said by robbin:Actually the price isn't that bad. Starting from the basic model, for $100 more you can add 16 Gb, making it have 32. Then for another $100, you can add 32 Gb making it have 64. Now for another $100 we can add 64 Gb bringing the total to 128. What doesn't make sense and is a total ripoff is paying $100 for 16 Gb of memory.
Of course it's a ripoff, as the incremental increase in memory from 16, 32, 64, 128 is not an identical incremental increase of cost for Apple.
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My question is this:
Just what is the actual price difference to the drive manufacturer. How much does it cost them to make each size drive? I can't imagine the difference in cost isn't all that great.
1,000 bucks for a tablet is a tad pricey, for a mer mortal like myself.
1k will buy an ok/decent laptop, that will have more functionality then a tablet.
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Zoder
join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL | It's not an exact comparison but on Newegg, Sandisk SD flash has about $130 spread between 16 and 128 GB |
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join:2004-01-16
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said by Snakeoil:My question is this:
Just what is the actual price difference to the drive manufacturer. How much does it cost them to make each size drive? I can't imagine the difference in cost isn't all that great....
Every consumer product sold is available in slightly different sizes, shapes packages, etc., to provide a varying level of price points.
Think Coca Cola...the soda is the exact same, but if you buy it in a 64 ounce pottle, a six pack, a 16 ounce bottle or a 12 ounce can from the vending machine, the price per ounce differs significantly.
All marketers want to offer products to the widest variety of consumers, such that each group pays as much as they want (for essentially the same commodity).
Hi test gasoline costs the dealer a few pennies more than regular, but at the pump they jack it up 30 cents a gallon, or more.
So, if Apple puts in a chip that costs them $20 more and charges $200 more for the unit...good for them! If the consumer buys it, they profit more...if not, they'll suffer, but it's their decision as to how they'll price the product.
A seat in Yankee Stadium costs more during the playoffs and World Series than it does during pre-season games...it's the same seat, but valued differently by the consumer.
Pricing is fun...Marketing 101 was my favorite course in college. |
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join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | reply to Zoder
said by Zoder:It's not an exact comparison but on Newegg, Sandisk SD flash has about $130 spread between 16 and 128 GB
At some point it may make sense to drop a model. Apple has done it before. If I recall correctly, shortly after the ZuneHD came out the iPod Touch went from 8GB to 32GB dropping inexplicably the 16GB model. The new iPod Touch has no 8GB or 16GB model,...
There may be a point where Apple might want to drop the entry level 16GB iPad in favor of a more trim 32, 64, 128GB lineup,....
Apple doesn't seem interested in budget products though. The iPad Mini isn't priced to compete with cheap ~$200 tablets like it or lump it. Which is why when I hear rumors of a cheaper iPhone coming along with some credible looking pix I don't think in terms of a budget (AKA cheap) product.
Its a natural progression to add large capacity to the iPad given that there are PC tablets already on the market with ~128GB mSATA SSD units likely running Intel Core i5 Ivy Bridge processors in the same ~$1000 price range.
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haroldo
join:2004-01-16
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| said by Octavean:...There may be a point where Apple might want to drop the entry level 16GB iPad in favor of a more trim 32, 64, 128GB lineup,... IMHO, if you're not interested in running a movie theater or television station, 16GB is plenty of space. I have 16gb on both iToys and it's more than enough (>100 apps, >2500 photos and a similar amount of songs...98% of which I've never listened to).
I have a dozen, or so, friends who I mentor (in all things tech) and never has space been an issue.
I hope they don't abandon this model, since for the average user, it's plenty of space (my first computer had a 200MB hard drive). |
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1 edit | I have single 1080P movies (typically concert videos) that even in MP4 tip the scales at 10+GB.
16GB ain't gonna get the job done. |
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join:2000-05-06
Haverhill, MA | reply to robbin
Sorry but I feel the price is ridicules!!! for the price of this thing, I can pretty much get a Macbook Air, which would be far more functional than an iPad!....just my two cents! |
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join:2000-12-17
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kudos:5 | I don't think it's ever been about the value proposition. At least not since the Woz days.
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haroldo
join:2004-01-16
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| said by Goober:I don't think it's ever been about the value proposition...
It most certainly is.
No rational buyer would pay more than they think the product is worth.
Take this example...if a Windows computer cost $500 and a comparably spec-ed Apple computer cost $50 million, clearly no one would buy it. However, if the price differential were only a few hundred bucks, then the additional cost to buy the Apple computer (in return they'll get the perception of greater ease, reliability, etc.) is a value that the consumer is happy to pay for.
When you see lines around the block for people waiting (sometimes in the rain or cold) or when you see products sell out in a matter of hours or a day, or two, this means that the price charged is so attractive to so many people that they'll gladly exchange their money for the item.
Yeah, it's a bit pricey to some...but no one has a gun to their heads to make the purchase.
If it wasn't a value...it wouldn't sell. People buy products when they feel that the item they are acquiring is equal to or worth more to them than the amount they are spending.
If you feel that your daily budget for lunch is $15 and you have a choice between a $12 hamburger or a $40 hamburger...which will you buy?
Apple sells premium products that commands premium prices, but if they weren't priced properly...they wouldn't sell any.
The price (sorry to say) is right ...which is why they have $140 billion in the bank and dozens of former competitors no longer exist. |
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GooberPremium
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kudos:5 | Three words you said yourself . . . "No rational buyer"
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haroldo
join:2004-01-16
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| said by Goober:Three words you said yourself . . . "No rational buyer"
...over a hundred million iPhones have been sold...they may be euphoric purchasers, but they're freely choosing to spend their hard earned money on this product (at the expense of other potential purchases...including leisure time pursuits).
I thought I'd ask, so I set up a related poll »[iPhone] Do you think the iPhone is a good "value"? |
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skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium
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| That is like saying no rational buyer would buy a Porsche or BMW. Not everyone sees value in a Kia Rio or Honda Civic. Just because it has 4 wheels and bumpers doesn't mean it will give you the same experience. Personally I think a shoebox car with no "soul" is a complete waste of money while others would think a BMW a complete waste of money. Same goes for tech. I think a $500 crapbox from Dell is a complete waste of money, others look at a $2000 iMac and laugh out loud. One's rational buyer is another's irrational one. |
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GooberPremium
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kudos:5 | reply to haroldo
I think we're ships passing in the night with regards to the word "value". We're both possibly right in our points, but it depends on how the word is being defined.
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haroldo
join:2004-01-16
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| said by Goober:I think we're ships passing in the night with regards to the word "value". We're both possibly right in our points, but it depends on how the word is being defined.
Value is how the every one of the consumers defines it.
Some value time over money, some value convenience over money (so they'll "over pay")...it's the free choice of the consumer.
My point is...we can question the "value" of these high priced toys, but at the end of the day, the consumer is voting with their wallets/pocket books...and loudly saying that it is a good value. |
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join:2002-05-15
Williamsport, PA | reply to haroldo
said by haroldo:IMHO, if you're not interested in running a movie theater or television station, 16GB is plenty of space. I have 16gb on both iToys and it's more than enough (>100 apps, >2500 photos and a similar amount of songs...98% of which I've never listened to).
I have a dozen, or so, friends who I mentor (in all things tech) and never has space been an issue.
I hope they don't abandon this model, since for the average user, it's plenty of space (my first computer had a 200MB hard drive).
16 GB is not nearly enough space for many people. My music alone won't fit on a 32 GB model, let alone a 16 GB.
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haroldo
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| said by RRedline:....My music alone won't fit on a 32 GB model... How many songs do you have (and, more importantly, how long would it take you to listen to all your songs)? |
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What to listen to..what to listen to |
16GB is a joke for a any device without an SD slot even with iTunes Match. |
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