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Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 09:26:42 EDT

intok posted : Having used every version of office since Word 5.5 on Windows 3.11 in 6 years in IT and 3 in politics I've yet to find anything that I can't do in Office '97 let alone the free versions that is offered by the new versions that isn't directly the cause of file format breakage to force an upgrade.

You actually need full blown office on a tablet? Sounds like a painful experience to say the least. Of your 3 users how many actually need full blown office?

How is it cheating if they are still raking in money hand over fist? The student price is much closer to the actual cost of developer time + massive profit margin then the full retail.

said by JohnInSJ:

Microsoft Office2013 has a lot of new features. I am going to go way out on a limb here and suggest that the programmers that work at Microsoft don't just sit around eating donuts, but they in fact program every day. Even the ones working in the office division.

Right here is when you started changing your argument. Of those new features have you ever used? How many have you ever seen in use? Or are they as useful as a scanner on your phone for tracking the migration pattern of sparrows?

For all the developers they have the end products don't show for it. If that where not the case the behemoth wouldn't have so many bombs that would have crushed any company that doesn't have a stranglehold on the market.

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 08:50:14 EDT

JohnInSJ posted :

said by intok:

said by JohnInSJ:

said by intok:

If that where the case it would get better over time, not stagnate and offer only horrible re-skinning gimmicks.

Ah, so now you're trying a different argument? Look, you don't need to buy it. I am happy for you to not buy it. Doesn't mean this isn't a good deal for people who were going to buy it anyway.

Frankly, it's a fantastic deal for someone who was going to buy office 2013 pro. That's not you.

I will leave aside cheating. It is a deal if you do the math and calculate the cost of 1 license for Office Pro ($400) or 5 licenses of Office Pro ($2000) and then compare that to 5 installs per year at $100.

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So what you get 5 seats, most won't need the extra seats and will be charged many times what even a single seat of the retail version used to go for.

I already agreed YOU don't see it as a deal. In my home there are three users and multiple devices including Macs, PCs, and Tablets. It would be a great deal for me.

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And you where the one that changed the argument. Fact is it's not worth it as the new versions still don't offer anything of value over the old versions or free alternatives outside of the forced upgrades over time. Such is the way of monopoly consumerism.

No, you went from "it's a bad deal, free stuff can do it" to "the new version is crap and offers nothing new". How is that a fact? You've done an analysis of the versions? You've published this fact sheet? I must have missed that.

I'm more than happy to agree that you don't find any value in this. Is there any universe where you could agree that SOME people would find value in this, or must everyone be like you in your world?
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Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 08:00:22 EDT

intok posted :

said by JohnInSJ:

said by intok:

If that where the case it would get better over time, not stagnate and offer only horrible re-skinning gimmicks.

I still don't see how it's a deal, especially when compared to what it was before if you where a student. Tons of home users used that loophole to get it for a vastly reduced price, one that was still too high, but still around 1/4th of retail.

So what you get 5 seats, most won't need the extra seats and will be charged many times what even a single seat of the retail version used to go for.

And you where the one that changed the argument. Fact is it's not worth it as the new versions still don't offer anything of value over the old versions or free alternatives outside of the forced upgrades over time. Such is the way of monopoly consumerism.

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 07:45:14 EDT

Mele20 posted : Who would possibly want Office on Linux?

If it is cloud software...no way would I touch it. It has the crap ribbon anyway. I don't use cloud software and don't intend to ever. Cloud is a plot/setup designed to really hurt users. Stay away from the cloud entirely!

I use Open Office. I don't need Microsoft's over priced cloud junk. I did love Word 2002 and Office XP but since that ...HORRIBLE stuff.
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Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 06:57:20 EDT

anon posted : You do realize that there is the regular Office 2013 if you do not want to the subscription thing.

The major benefit of Office365 will have 5 licenses that you activate/deactivate on-the-fly for versions of Office on multiple OS/devices. You do not even have to uninstall it if you want to temporarily deactivate it. Management of licenses is done from a web-interface, so physical access to the machine is not required. You can install Office on any number of systems. We are not talking about only the Windows version either. The new Office will be on other OS's. Note that there will be no standalone Office 2013 for non-MS mobile operating systems. Instead if you want Office on a non-MS mobile OS, you will need Office365.

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 23:37:03 EDT

Selenia posted : I have been trying to convert one of the bosses at a work site to OpenOffice. Nice guy and seems to almost be considering it. I suggested it to help him out because I know his budget has been strained lately, but he needs to keep working, somewhat up-to-date hardware. I even told him his office could get by with Linux, and that the training for what most the employees do there would be minimal, especially if he used shells to make some things look like Windows for the employees. He was intrigued. I told him that if all costs of operation are consuming in an IT field, reducing software(even if not eliminating entirely) costs is a rather safe way to cut back and would save more money than cutting workers, who enable excellent customer service clients come back for. He seems to be listening. I wish everyone was that open to ideas. I see what his office does and open free software happens to cover all his bases. Covers all my home and server use too. I can even do most of my Windows software learning(have to know about what they use) via WINE and the rest on the free virtualbox(open source version).

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 17:47:21 EDT

JohnInSJ posted :

said by intok:

If that where the case it would get better over time, not stagnate and offer only horrible re-skinning gimmicks.

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 15:07:04 EDT

shinjuru posted : As previously mentioned, most of the older Office suites will still provide the basics for most users. The prices of an annual subscription is beyond logic. There has been no necessary improvements to justify the costs.
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Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 10:25:35 EDT

intok posted : If that where the case it would get better over time, not stagnate and offer only horrible re-skinning gimmicks.

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 10:24:32 EDT

CylonRed posted :

said by intok:

True, but This is Microsoft Office we're talking about. Each new version adds little of value over even long EOL'd versions yet sell by the billions as people are forced to via planned obsolesce from the breakage of file format and lack of security updates.

Forced obsolesce? Hmmm - I seem to remember .docx viewers for Word that anyone could download. Plus - Word has always allowed previous formats - if it was true obsolesce then the older version would not be supported at all - only the new one would be supported.

I have had VERY few issues skipping several version of Word/Office. I went from Office 95 to 97 (97 at least a year after it was available) then skipped to 2010. This has been since 1995 - 3 versions in 13 years...

If they are forcing people to move to the newest - they are not doing a very good job at it.
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Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 10:11:43 EDT

JohnInSJ posted :

said by intok:

But for mass commodity software that is churned out as cheap as possible and at maximum price to billions of users?

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:23:43 EDT

intok posted : True, but This is Microsoft Office we're talking about. Each new version adds little of value over even long EOL'd versions yet sell by the billions as people are forced to via planned obsolesce from the breakage of file format and lack of security updates.

If you where talking about some specialty software where there is a real need for it yet the market is small, then sure, you can jack up the price. But for mass commodity software that is churned out as cheap as possible and at maximum price to billions of users?

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:07:13 EDT

JohnInSJ posted :

said by intok:

So yes, go on, keep being a good little consumer, burning all of your hard earned money on trash that has a reproduction and distribution cost of $0.0000000000001.

I have worked in this space for my entire career, so my hard earned money comes from people paying for software. The cost of the product isn't the cost of the media or distribution.
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Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Sat, 02 Feb 2013 21:59:36 EDT

Dustyn posted :

said by Mele20:

I only want Word. Plus, I hate the ribbon (hate the ribbon in Windows 8 Explorer also....so fat, so cumbersome to use with way, way too many icons that are extremely dumb looking too instead of WORDS. I am not functionally illiterate like 75% of Americans are (hence the move from WORDS to icons).

I like and use "Classic Menu" with Office 2010 64-bit. Best thing about this is it integrates itself into the entire Office suite.
Speaking of which... I should go check for an updated version.
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Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Sat, 02 Feb 2013 21:51:37 EDT

intok posted :

said by JohnInSJ:

Indeed, if you need something, just take it.

I've been using FOSS software for 20+ years. Doesn't mean I also won't pay for something that's worth paying for.

The vast majority actually pay for stuff. Like iPads. And iPhones. And Windows. And Office, if they need it. Not because it's what they've always used, but because they find value in it.

No, it's because thats what someone told them to use because thats what that someone has always used. Go ahead, ask a Mac user what kind of computer you should buy.

I'm not against paying for things, I'm more often then not unable to pay for things under acceptable terms. I'd gladly pay for single shows like The Walking Dead, but I'm not going to pay $100 a month for TV service I'm only going to use an hour a week for 12 weeks out of the year.

So yes, go on, keep being a good little consumer, burning all of your hard earned money on trash that has a reproduction and distribution cost of $0.0000000000001.

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Sat, 02 Feb 2013 20:33:04 EDT

JohnInSJ posted :

said by aurgathor:

Most of my editing needs are satisfied with Notepad, and if I really want to get fancy, then Wordpad.

Mary Jo Foley, is that you? :)

»twitter.com/maryjofoley/status/2···62827264
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Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Sat, 02 Feb 2013 20:32:04 EDT

JohnInSJ posted :

said by intok:

You are welcome to keep paying for crap if you like but the vast majority can actually get by just fine without it and only use it because of the tragic disease known as "thats what I've always used" syndrome.

No need for Skype, I have a cellphone and I've been able to video chat since about a decade before Skype even existed.

No need for TV, theres nothing good on 99% of the time anyways and for the few good shows there is Bittorrent.

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Sat, 02 Feb 2013 20:14:30 EDT

aurgathor posted : Most of my editing needs are satisfied with Notepad, and if I really want to get fancy, then Wordpad.

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Sat, 02 Feb 2013 20:07:42 EDT

Alcohol posted :

said by intok:

said by natedj:

I think this is a good deal, for the simple reason being, it lets you install on up to (5) computers. So basically you're paying $20 a year to have the latest MS office suite on a computer. This would be better if you can only pay $20 per PC in lieu of the $100 minimum for five.

LibreOffice and AbiWord are free and can be installed on an infinite number of computers running damn near any OS for the low low monthly cost of $0.00

Yeah, they're also just shitty versions of office. Try making a powerpoint in Libre.
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Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Sat, 02 Feb 2013 19:05:40 EDT

intok posted : You are welcome to keep paying for crap if you like but the vast majority can actually get by just fine without it and only use it because of the tragic disease known as "thats what I've always used" syndrome.

No need for Skype, I have a cellphone and I've been able to video chat since about a decade before Skype even existed.

No need for TV, theres nothing good on 99% of the time anyways and for the few good shows there is Bittorrent.

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:53:11 EDT

JohnInSJ posted :

said by intok:

said by natedj:

LibreOffice and AbiWord are free and can be installed on an infinite number of computers running damn near any OS for the low low monthly cost of $0.00

Yep, and if they work for you, they are a great value. They don't do everything Word does, however, so they're not a perfect fit for everyone. They're also not 60 minutes of skype calling per month, or 20 extra GB of skydrive.

Did you know you can get TV over the air for $0 a month too. Some people still pay for Dish, or Cable.

You can get free music over the radio. Some people still pay for Sat. radio, too.

Free options are great. But they're not what we're talking about here.
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Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:35:59 EDT

intok posted :

said by natedj:

LibreOffice and AbiWord are free and can be installed on an infinite number of computers running damn near any OS for the low low monthly cost of $0.00

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:57:49 EDT

H2OuUp2 posted : Installed it. I agree Outlook is much improved. Excel has a lot of cool features. One is the ability to fill data from a list. Example You have 2000 rows of names in the Last, First format. You want to pull out the First name and put in a list.

Now you simply type the first name in a column, then when you begin to type the second name Excel will automatically fill the other 1999 rows of data. It works on addresses too.

Word you can convert PDF files to Word much better than before. In fact I have some PDF converters and 2013 does it better than them.

You can actually make movies in PowerPoint, that look professional. In fact Microsoft even made the What's New video in Power point. It too is much improved.

Access is finally to a point where a new person could at least make it work for them.

I haven't really dug in yet, but so far so good.

Last.... It didn't remove my 2010 Office and they work side by side with no problems. I'm impressed. First time I have ever been able to have two Outlooks on one PC. But 2013 is so much better I doubt I use the old one much.

They also have a Student edition that is $79.99 for a four (4) year lease for two PC's. That's a good deal. IMO anyway.

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Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:58:06 EDT

bbrcat posted : Open Office here too...does all that I need from such a program.
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Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:51:04 EDT
bobjohnson posted :
said by JohnInSJ:
said by dellsweig:
http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/29/technology/office-365/index.html?iid=HP_LN

I have been using OpenOffice which works fine.

There are some power users that might use SOME of the Office features but 99% just use basics available in ANY word processor

Yep, $100 a year for 5 licenses of Office that would cost you $400 a year to buy, per license, if you got the same suite shrink-wrapped as office2013. So, in 20 years you'd break even on just buying 5 copies outright.

Not only that but as I use OneNote, excel and PowerPoint so I split the cost with 3 coworkers. Only costed me $35.
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Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:39:30 EDT
Alcohol posted : Just installed office 2013 today.

Outlook is amazing! Everything else is fine and didn't need an upgrade.
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Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:38:21 EDT
JohnInSJ posted :
said by djrobx:
The biggest one is Excel. People use it for so much more than what it is.
Yup. Excel spreadsheets are commonly used as a surrogate UI to a VBA program. Input data in spreadsheet "form" -> Execute VBA script -> Output data with quick access to charting.

I can see why - it's an easy way to distribute sharable software utility programs along with data, without the distribution headaches associated with full blown executable programs.

Excel pivot tables are the bomb, though.
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Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:10:12 EDT
djrobx posted :
The biggest one is Excel. People use it for so much more than what it is.
Yup. Excel spreadsheets are commonly used as a surrogate UI to a VBA program. Input data in spreadsheet "form" -> Execute VBA script -> Output data with quick access to charting.

I can see why - it's an easy way to distribute sharable software utility programs along with data, without the distribution headaches associated with full blown executable programs.
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Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 EDT
jl747 posted : My mistake.
The article I had read awhile ago said that the docs were saved to the cloud and not locally.

It does save in both places.

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:47:36 EDT
JohnInSJ posted :
said by jl747:
If you use Office 365 then you have save all your docs in the cloud.
You can not directly ave them to your computer.

Wow, no. Not even close to correct. This is just a subscription license for Office. You can run locally, install the applications locally, run without an internet connect, and of course save/open files locally.
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Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:46:07 EDT
JohnInSJ posted :
said by dellsweig:
http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/29/technology/office-365/index.html?iid=HP_LN

I have been using OpenOffice which works fine.

There are some power users that might use SOME of the Office features but 99% just use basics available in ANY word processor

Yep, $100 a year for 5 licenses of Office that would cost you $400 a year to buy, per license, if you got the same suite shrink-wrapped as office2013. So, in 20 years you'd break even on just buying 5 copies outright.
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Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:37:57 EDT
H2OuUp2 posted : Sure there are a lot of alternatives out there. Problem is in the corporate environment you have a lot of custom written programs that just don't work on the "free" versions correctly.

The biggest one is Excel. People use it for so much more than what it is. Excel can be used to mimic Word, PowerPoint, and Access with pretty good efficiency. With this being said I think the biggest reason people stay with Office over the others is Excel (VBA) and the many custom programs that simply don't work right in the other versions of the free spreadsheets.

The casual user might not see the compatibility problems, but they are there. In fact for many the alternatives will work just fine.
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Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:38:29 EDT
norwegian posted :
said by Octavean:
Actually the article more or less seems to be addressing a yearly OS update cycle for Windows starting some time in mid 2013.

Well if that is the case, is is closer than I imagined. I'll be interested to see how that pans out.

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:40:13 EDT
digitalfutur posted : For those of us with a corporate agreement, or who know a friendly IT person, Office 2013 Professional Plus, with all 9 Office Apps, is available now for $9.95 from the MS Home Use Program.

»www.microsofthup.com/hupus/home.···ry_id=US

It's the perpetual license version, but since this offer is available every time a full version of Office is released; the price more than offsets the 2 license restriction.
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Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:22:58 EDT
Boricua65 posted :
said by OverBurn:
I'll be using Office 2003 for the next decade or longer. Does all I need.

So will I. I can't stand the new GUI on the Office 2007 and later. Whoever came up with that ribbon BS, needs to get shot.
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Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:18:49 EDT
AVD posted :
said by brianiscool:
open office does not work well with docx files

based on what? It works perfectly for me, better than Office 2003 without the add on.
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Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:13:49 EDT
itguy05 posted :
said by AnonFTW :
said by Kramer:
I'm very much interested in the improvements MS has made with IMAP in Outlook. Apparently they really worked on it to make the experience better.

If they have, I can't tell and I've been running Outlook 2013 for months. IMAP is still slow, buggy, doesn't push, and when new email arrives you get a toast notification ... but nothing in Outlook is bolded.

On the plus side, if you have an Outlook Anywhere connection (Exchange RPC, etc.) your username/password are now remembered properly.

Outlook has always been a POS since it came on the scene. Slow, buggy, cumbersome, and just a horrible experience.

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:01:35 EDT
brianiscool posted : open office does not work well with docx files

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Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:59:13 EDT
anon posted :
said by Kramer:
I'm very much interested in the improvements MS has made with IMAP in Outlook. Apparently they really worked on it to make the experience better.

If they have, I can't tell and I've been running Outlook 2013 for months. IMAP is still slow, buggy, doesn't push, and when new email arrives you get a toast notification ... but nothing in Outlook is bolded.

On the plus side, if you have an Outlook Anywhere connection (Exchange RPC, etc.) your username/password are now remembered properly.

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Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:59:08 EDT
anon posted : You can still purchase a perpetual license for the very reasonable price of $139.99. Or choose to subscribe for a single month for $9.99. The $100 yearly fee nets you 20GB of Skydrive and 60 minutes of Skype credit too.

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Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:51:05 EDT
norwegian posted :
Don't get me wrong, I want Outlook, but the costs involved were not allowing the benefits. I wonder if they will ever look at it as an option for the home user.

As for email retrieval, 2007 is giving me and has for some time problems at home with the user credentials, anything improved would be worth looking at.

For work, there seems to be a real issue with user authentication for 2007 and I've had serious SSL folder corruption with reports with it being over some sort of limit - clearing it fixed it. 2010 seems even more of a pain. I deleted the SSL folder contents info regarding images, PDFs, etc and 2010 spat the dummy, what a mess due to the way it works the "live user" - I can't remember the term for it right now, but cleaning the 2007 version against the 2010 version was easy, I'll never delete the contents of the stored Outlook SSL contents folder for 2010 ever again without more research.....what a headache it was.

Maybe that was just my trouble and others do not see it. An improvement would be appreciated.
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Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:39:42 EDT
Kramer posted : I'm very much interested in the improvements MS has made with IMAP in Outlook. Apparently they really worked on it to make the experience better.

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Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:30:51 EDT
norwegian posted :
said by Kramer:
I did a thread on this a while back.

Yep - remember the discussion, but for me and Outlook, it was not worth the effort.

This was the topic from memory:
»[Info] Microsoft Office Users, Price Going Way Up
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Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:11:23 EDT
Octavean posted :
said by norwegian:
said by Octavean:
said by BillRoland:
I don't much like the idea of subscription based software.

I've got a TechNet subscription so I still have access to a number of different versions of MS Office,....
Isn't Technet only a yearly subscription too now, where it wasn't before? It seems Microsoft are aligning with other software makers to earn extra dollars, it is only a matter of time before the O/S is the same.

The software one would get from TechNet is not subscription based,....currently. So, the keys available to me now for the software I choose to download and use will still be available to me even if I do not renew my subscription.

There are restrictions naturally though.

As for Windows there will be a subscription version coming soon or so I hear. I posted a thread on it not too long ago.

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»Microsoft Rumored to Release Subscription-based Windows Blue

Edit to add link

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Actually the article more or less seems to be addressing a yearly OS update cycle for Windows starting some time in mid 2013.

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Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:59:26 EDT
Mele20 posted : I only want Word. Plus, I hate the ribbon (hate the ribbon in Windows 8 Explorer also....so fat, so cumbersome to use with way, way too many icons that are extremely dumb looking too instead of WORDS. I am not functionally illiterate like 75% of Americans are (hence the move from WORDS to icons).

Anyhow, I now use Open Office as I can't install my 3 copies of Works Suite with Word 2002 on Windows 8. If Microsoft still had Works Suite, I would have purchased the latest version even if that meant the ribbon in Word. I liked the other software in Works Suite. I don't need Office and I hate anything in the cloud.
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Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:13:39 EDT
AVD posted : I use open office and google docs.

My employer sells home keys for $1, but I didn't take them up on the offer.
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Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:59:02 EDT
Kramer posted : I did a thread on this a while back. Home users really get a deal compared to Business users. It isn't a half bad deal for the home user, especially since they are raising the price of the perpetually licensed software. You basically get Office Pro, but instead of paying $350/2 (1 install now) installs, you pay $100 per year for 5. Since MS updates Office every 3 years a person who would buy Pro every three years comes out ahead. Way ahead if they have 3 or more devices to put it on. I typically buy the lowest price version that comes with Outlook and that has averaged around $250 every three years or so.

I'm not a big fan of subscription models, but they can be a great deal if you use a lot of the included software. The Adobe Creative Cloud is one example of a great deal if you use a lot of their software. I'm considering taking Microsoft up on their subscription. You can buy into it from Staples or just about anywhere. Home and Business, which is the edition I would buy if perpetually licensed, would cost $220 and it would only work on one PC. I can part with less than half that cash the first year and have software for 5 PCs. Very tempting.

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Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:25:02 EDT
David posted :
said by Dustyn:
Why would you use a cracked copy?

mainly just for reference... I don't use it frequently, it's mainly so I can support the office junkies that still use that crap. I have already told them as of this year june I won't be supporting MS office problems or applications anymore.

So the death knell for office for me comes in june of this year.
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Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:04:17 EDT
sivran posted : I'd rather just have Office 2007 Portable.

Actually, I do. :)

Re: $100 a year to USE MS Office - lol

Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:53:20 EDT
digitalfutur posted : Office 365 is Microsoft's answer to Google Docs, which isn't free for business or universities. Qualified educational users can buy a 4 year Office 365 license for $79.99, good for 2 machines. Cloud, like mobile computing, is here to stay. The days of desktop-centric apps are numbered. If you use Office on multiple computers at home or work and upgrade every other release, Office 365 is a better deal than Office 2010 and earlier.

One great feature is Office On Demand, a service that temporarily installs a full copy of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Access, or Publisher on any Windows 7 or 8 machine, lets you open or create documents on your cloud-based SkyDrive, and then deletes the app from the system after you close it. Office On Demand doesn't use up any of your five full installs.

Great review from PC Mag.

»www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2383731,00.asp
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