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Re: Bell now giving unlimited usagesaid by 34764170:But that's not what really matters. It's the total cost of service and Rogers has by far the most expensive service.
Like I've said before, let's adopt true usage based billing. I'm sick of paying for 80GB of usage when I'm only using 20GB per month. Charge me for the 25/2 then charge me for exactly what bandwidth I use. The consumer will decide who has the best bang for the buck. |
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34764170 (banned)
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34764170 (banned)
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2013-Jan-30 2:08 am
said by elitefx:Like I've said before, let's adopt true usage based billing. I'm sick of paying for 80GB of usage when I'm only using 20GB per month. Charge me for the 25/2 then charge me for exactly what bandwidth I use.
The consumer will decide who has the best bang for the buck.
Sure as long as everyone gets the option of not using such a broken model. |
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said by elitefx:said by 34764170:But that's not what really matters. It's the total cost of service and Rogers has by far the most expensive service.
Like I've said before, let's adopt true usage based billing. I'm sick of paying for 80GB of usage when I'm only using 20GB per month. Charge me for the 25/2 then charge me for exactly what bandwidth I use. The consumer will decide who has the best bang for the buck. Network costs are not based on how much you use over the month, it's how much you use at peak time. If you download those 20gb overnight or during the day you don't cost the provider anything. If you download those 20gb at peak time, you are contributing to their network costs. In fact, you downloading that small amount at peak time costs them more than someone who downloads 2tb only during off peak times. Peak bandwidth (different from download usage) is where the costs are, so under no circumstances should usage based billing (gb over a month) ever be considered. It's absolutely nothing more than a cash grab. |
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elitefx
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2013-Jan-30 11:32 am
said by Samgee:Peak bandwidth (different from download usage) is where the costs are, so under no circumstances should usage based billing (gb over a month) ever be considered. It's absolutely nothing more than a cash grab.
Well, I don't care how they bill it as long as they CHANGE IT. If Rogers can sell 25/2 for $14.00/month wholesale to a TPIA then they can sell it to me for $14.00 + 20% retail. I'm sick to death of paying a 300% markup from Rogers wholesale rates. Rogers has a dozen different services. They ALL use the same network. We've been using the network for 60 years and paid for it 1000 times over. The network is a cash cow for Rogers. Now I want to reap the rewards of using a network that's BOUGHT AND PAID FOR and earning Rogers millions daily. If "network payments" earned "air miles" my household would fly for free forever. |
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Samgee
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2013-Jan-30 12:02 pm
It looks like you're in London, so there are a few options for you if you really want to stop paying Rogers mark up. |
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elitefx
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2013-Jan-30 12:11 pm
said by Samgee:It looks like you're in London, so there are a few options for you if you really want to stop paying Rogers mark up.
Just waiting on the CRTC decision this week on tariffs and to see Rogers response to Bell's Unlimited packages........ |
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The numbers are fine, my point is you can't compare discount plans.
I used the highest tier from each provider with unlimited usage factored in and highest widely available discount for each provider and rogers comes on top as always since they have the most generous discount. (for bell I just used their bundle discount, for rogers I used their still available 70% off for two years and for acanac I used $40 price for one year)
You can check all the math of you want but the point is for unlimited usage you can't beat rogers at the moment because for unlimited the only thing that matters is dollar per Mbit and rogers has that covered. |
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yyzlhr
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2013-Jan-30 1:24 pm
said by technocar2:I used the highest tier from each provider with unlimited usage factored in and highest widely available discount for each provider and rogers comes on top as always since they have the most generous discount. (for bell I just used their bundle discount, for rogers I used their still available 70% off for two years and for acanac I used $40 price for one year)
Not necessarily a fair comparison. Bell's bundle discount is available to everyone, and the 70% off at Rogers is only available to existing customers with more than one residential service. |
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said by technocar2:The numbers are fine, my point is you can't compare discount plans.
I used the highest tier from each provider with unlimited usage factored in and highest widely available discount for each provider and rogers comes on top as always since they have the most generous discount. (for bell I just used their bundle discount, for rogers I used their still available 70% off for two years and for acanac I used $40 price for one year)
You can check all the math of you want but the point is for unlimited usage you can't beat rogers at the moment because for unlimited the only thing that matters is dollar per Mbit and rogers has that covered.
Why do you feel that price per Mbit is all that matters. So if Rogers offered a plan with 1million up and down for a $100 000 a month, that's the best deal? 28/1 for $40 a month is an incredible deal for the current situation in Canada. Your math based on top speed tiers per Mbit is meaningless when Rogers top speed tier costs $226 a month, on top of which you need to add $100 for unlimited. Even with a discount, which doesn't reduce the overage charges, paying $160 a month for internet access is obscene. |
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said by yyzlhr:Not necessarily a fair comparison.
And that's exactly my point; there is no point in comparing discounts plans but if you still want to then you know who is giving the best discount at the moment. Also as far as I can remember there were some new customers who did get the 70% off while some people were rejected, so its not clear cut. said by Samgee:So if Rogers offered a plan with 1million up and down for a $100 000 a month, that's the best deal?
Because you couldn't disprove my math, you have to use such a ridiculous example. When you want to compare unlimited usage plans the ONLY parameter that you can compare is dollar per Mbit, what else can you really compare? The monthly cost means nothing without context! |
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Samgee
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2013-Jan-30 2:16 pm
The point of my example was that your methodology was flawed. Just because the higher priced plan has a better price per unit doesn't make it the better deal. There are very very few things a person with a 250/250 connection can do that someone with 28/1 can't do that makes paying for the higher tier unreasonable.
Your math may work, but the question then becomes is it really worth paying over $150 a month for something when you could get a very similar service in terms of usability for $40.
If you need 250/250 then Rogers is without question the better deal (only for now since they are the only ones who can offer that). If you need volume and value over speed, Rogers is the last place you should look. |
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said by yyzlhr:Not necessarily a fair comparison. Bell's bundle discount is available to everyone, and the 70% off at Rogers is only available to existing customers with more than one residential service.
Yup, and that's a major problem. I'm sick of subsidizing all the Rogers groupies and their 70% off nonsense. I say cut 'em off at the knees and make 'em pay full rates and give the rest of us a break on our monthly bills. Drop the damn rates by 25% across the board........ |
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HiVolt
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2013-Jan-30 3:05 pm
said by elitefx:Drop the damn rates by 25% across the board........
ha. ha. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH Good one buddy thanks for the laugh. |
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34764170 (banned)
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34764170 (banned)
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2013-Jan-30 7:30 pm
said by HiVolt:said by elitefx:Drop the damn rates by 25% across the board........
ha. ha. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH Good one buddy thanks for the laugh. He is always good for a laugh. |
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said by elitefx:Drop the damn rates by 25% across the board........
You're with Rogers and you think they are going to truly do you a favour. ROTFL. I can't stop laughing. |
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said by technocar2:You can check all the math of you want but the point is for unlimited usage you can't beat rogers at the moment because for unlimited the only thing that matters is dollar per Mbit and rogers has that covered.
Oh yes, $62/month vs $152/months (Rogers). Wow, what a great deal from Rogers. Shit I should be switching to them right now.. not. |
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