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goalieskates
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Re: Mozilla Recognized as Most Trusted Internet Company--Privacy

said by ashrc4:

You might care if you were a company given the results ahead of it's official release, maybe......Or it had a stronger overall weight on company's concerned with how/what privacy illusions the public had and then encouraged them to improve

Or not. I think you're missing my point (although I was trying to be succinct).

There are some polls and pronouncements that have no meaning to real users, but are used as glorifications by the "winners." We've all seen them - browser x is "the fastest" or "the best", etc. Puff pieces that have no impact in the real world but they sure feel good.

There are also a lot of bogus groups that have wonderful "about us" statements on their web sites - they sound good, even the crooks. So their own mission statement isn't really an indicator of how respected they are in the IT community.

Non-tech example so we don't all get bogged down in a tech debate: The city where I live was recently touted by Reuters to be one of only three "major" cities to see economic recovery. The mayor promptly took credit and did a big pr tapdance in the media. The only problems with that are, that (a) it's not a major city by any stretch, and (b) you have to really twist the numbers to come up with any kind of recovery. Unemployment is still high, major jobs have been lost, and their replacements have been of the minimum wage variety. The article was a crock, or maybe a pr stunt, who knows. Other cities in the state that are both bigger and have better jobs somehow didn't "improve" the same way. Go figure.

So returning to this "achievement", Mozilla is acting like they won something because it makes them look good. If someone else had "won," they'd be the one crowing. But if the average person or company doesn't recognize and respect the source, it's no more real than my city's "recovery."


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said by goalieskates:

... So returning to this "achievement", Mozilla is acting like they won something because it makes them look good. If someone else had "won," they'd be the one crowing. But if the average person or company doesn't recognize and respect the source, it's no more real than my city's "recovery."

I respectfully disagree. When it comes to Internet privacy and trust, the average person most likely won't recognize any source that awards a company's privacy and trust achievements. Not necessarily because such awards are flaky, undeserved, or not real, but simply because most folks have no idea of who is a knowledgeable-enough organization to make a legitimate award. Many professional or trade organizations are top-notch and legitimate, as are their awards, though they're not necessarily "well-known" to the average person. Frankly, I personally have little direct experience with the Ponemon Institute's competency or legitimacy, but I certainly can't dismiss them out-of-hand. From what I understand about them, they (and their RIM Council) appear to be recognized organizations framed around promoting and setting standards for privacy and ethics in all manner of information-rich industries and professions.
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said by goalieskates:

said by ashrc4:

You might care if you were a company given the results ahead of it's official release, maybe......Or it had a stronger overall weight on company's concerned with how/what privacy illusions the public had and then encouraged them to improve


I think you're missing my point (although I was trying to be succinct).

No got it loud and clear.
The perceived privacy survey does not account for actual levels of privacy attained by comparison of company's and therefore people should not use it in some of the methods of comparison and champion one company over another with it.
said by ashrc4:

Or it had a stronger overall weight on company's concerned with how/what privacy illusions the public had and then encouraged them to improve

It still has some uses and could be a positive thing if one can vouch for it's accuracy.
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