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neko
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Re: Futureshop/Bestbuy abruptly shut down a dozen stores

said by urbanriot:

said by neko:

Staples on Bunting is closing later this year.

That's too bad, I really like that Staples. ..

Me, too. It's the one I use strictly because of the friendly staff. Real shame that one is closing. I hate having to go to the Fairview area for anything.


Gone
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I sat in traffic on North Service Road for 58 minutes waiting to make a left turn onto YMCA Drive one year on Christmas Eve. No word of a lie - literally 58 minutes. Not even Fourth Avenue and Glendale are that bad.

Now that Walmart is in there they're going to need a traffic light at North Service Road and the other part of YMCA Drive sooner rather than later. And four lanes. Good luck fitting those in! They should really put traffic lights on YMCA Drive near Petsmart, too.



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said by Gone:

Since both stores are close together they probably figure it a no-brainer to close the one on Bunting Road since most of the customers will just go to YMCA Drive.

Hah, I always plan my incursion method when I visit a store in that area. We're only talking an added minute or two by going from the wrong direction at the wrong time of day, but it's still a funny spot. That area, including the Fairview Mall, on a warm sunny Saturday afternoon was a brutal mess of people and wall to wall traffic where it would take about 15 minutes (literal, not exaggerated) to leave the parking lot. I've never seen that mall so busy.


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The Staples on YMCA Drive already rented out a chunk of their space where the copy centre used to be to some home decor-related store (if my memory is right)



elwoodblues
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Looks like Staples is downsizing.

Office supplies giant Staples Canada is looking to shrink almost 40 of its 330 stores, underscoring the pressure that big-box retailers feel from rival e-commerce and discount players.
Staples has circulated a list to landlords and real estate brokers of 39 stores that the chain plans to downsize, industry sources say. The retailer wants to sublet space to other merchants to reduce its costs and improve its bottom line. About a dozen of the stores’ leases expire within a year, which means Staples could close them at that time without penalties, they said.

»www.theglobeandmail.com/report-o···0961629/
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reply to urbanriot

Since both stores are close together they probably figure it a no-brainer to close the one on Bunting Road since most of the customers will just go to YMCA Drive. I wouldn't be so sure of that myself, as traffic around the mall is simply terrible.

They had been talking about two stores for St. Catharines for years even back when I worked at the Bunting Road Staples in the early 2000s. Fourth Avenue was always the place that was floated around, and it would have made a bit more sense if you're going to keep two locations going.

Aw well, so long Store Number 13.



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said by neko:

Staples on Bunting is closing later this year.

That's too bad, I really like that Staples.

If I have to choose between the newer one or the older one, I always go the older one. I prefer the layout of the place and the staff too. The newer one seems bigger but there's just a lot of white space and I can never find shit.

It makes sense it would close since the newer, fancier one opened up a bit ago but it's still really busy every time I go there.


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said by Gone:

Staples on Bunting Road was supposed to close when they took over the Office Depot on YMCA Drive and turned it into Staples. It was supposed to be a move rather than a brand new store. I'm surprised the one on Bunting stayed open as long as it did.

It's moderately busy. Just has poor highway access and in a weird spot. The Office Depot that was assumed on YMCA Dr was always dead.


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said by Gone:

It was dead for a while a year or two ago but the more recent times I've been in there there's been a decent number of customers in the store. It could be deeper corporate restructuring at Staples that's causing the closure, who knows. The one in Port Colborne closed a while ago.

And yeah, I refuse to shop at Beatties for reasons beyond just price. I'll drive to Staples in Niagara Falls before I ever set foot in there.

In port Colborne it went from a Staples to a Staples Express to nothing.


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Staples on Bunting Road was supposed to close when they took over the Office Depot on YMCA Drive and turned it into Staples. It was supposed to be a move rather than a brand new store. I'm surprised the one on Bunting stayed open as long as it did.



neko
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said by urbanriot:

...Staples I can't comment concerning Fort Erie but here in St. Catharines, we have two Staples stores within a 5 minute drive! If you live somewhere around Niagara street, you have a Staples within two minutes of either direction! Yet somehow they're both busy...

Staples on Bunting is closing later this year.

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I think BB/FS would be better served by downsizing into one electronics chain. The overhead of running two chains that sell very similar products seems pretty wasteful.

I don't think big box stores in Canada are done. The argument is that online shopping is killing big box stores. In Canada our online shopping options are mediocre at best. Our version of Amazon is greatly inferior to the American version. The selection is small and the prices aren't much better than a box store.

Mailing order from the US becomes more expensive by the year. When the internet was new it was so easy (and inexpensive) to import from the US. Barriers to trade keep going up. First they restricted warantees geographically (which made US tech sellers not want to ship outside their borders). Then UPS undercut USPS for insurance included orders, which meant Canadians were getting boned for insane brokerage fees when crossing the border.

Amazon.com added in "import fees" about two years ago and now Ebay is following suit (which sucks because Canada Post lets most things go.. unless its really big and expensive).

I guess my argument is that there isn't a lot of competition in Canada (online or otherwise). The barriers to importing from the US continue to grow (unless you're in a position to physically cross the border). I think it makes sense for FS/BB to consolidate their operations (eventually into 1 chain instead of 2), but I don't think the box store is in danger of becoming extinct in Canada because we don't really have a lot of options.



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Beatties as a company goes back well over 50 years. I've got old black and white photos of Downtown St. Catharines with the "Beatties Bros." store

Either way, I still won't shop at any of their stores.



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said by Gone:

It was dead for a while a year or two ago but the more recent times I've been in there there's been a decent number of customers in the store. It could be deeper corporate restructuring at Staples that's causing the closure, who knows. The one in Port Colborne closed a while ago.

And yeah, I refuse to shop at Beatties for reasons beyond just price. I'll drive to Staples in Niagara Falls before I ever set foot in there.

Beatties is part of the Basics Office supplies buying group. There are independent dealers all over that all buy through Basics based in KW.
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I'm not entirely sure I agree, I feel it's a management and structural issue. The big box stores can last, they just need to change.

Examples specifically for our area:

We have a Wintronics computer store here with computer parts and even though the enthusiast parts industry has been dead for years, that place is always packed with people since they've slimmed down to the appropriate number of workers, sell what people want and have it at a decent price. It might be a few bucks more than NCIX but you can walk in there and walk out with something that you want while getting a good service.

Future Shop, you walk in there and there's a bunch of fucktwats standing around shooting the shit, never in the areas that people need them... unless you want to blow a few grand on some equipment, then suddenly there's two guys fighting over you. Best Buy, I walk in there to buy a blu-ray player a few weeks back and couldn't find a soul to ask a question... because four of them were standing up front having a good old time.

Staples I can't comment concerning Fort Erie but here in St. Catharines, we have two Staples stores within a 5 minute drive! If you live somewhere around Niagara street, you have a Staples within two minutes of either direction! Yet somehow they're both busy...

Walmart we have the same, two Walmart stores within a 5 minute drive and the same situation if you live on Niagara St., within a 2 minute drive you have two Walmarts... both equally seem busy too.



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I'm thinking that the entire big box phenomenal is coming to an end.
You can't put a "big box store" at every street corner and expect it to be busy.

Local stores will continue to be closed down relying more on 'regional' stores instead. You already see the beginning with FS/BB and now Staples is showing it's cards.
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It was dead for a while a year or two ago but the more recent times I've been in there there's been a decent number of customers in the store. It could be deeper corporate restructuring at Staples that's causing the closure, who knows. The one in Port Colborne closed a while ago.

And yeah, I refuse to shop at Beatties for reasons beyond just price. I'll drive to Staples in Niagara Falls before I ever set foot in there.



urbanriot
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I had no idea they were closing... the only other type of store that I've seen in Fort Erie that carried office supplies was Beatties and they were horribly overpriced on everything so I figured Staples would give people what they were driving out of town for and a better price, so I'd expect them to have enough business to sustain them. Was it a graveyard?



Gone
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There was a "rumour" that the Staples in Fort Erie was closing, then that rumour turned into employees unofficially saying it was true, and then it turned into a large "Store Closing" sign outside this week.

So sometimes it is true.



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There's a rumour that the Niagara Falls location won't be sticking around and we're going back to one location in all of Niagara, rather than two Future Shops and one Best Buy...

... although in Niagara, there's always rumours that never pan out so we'll see. I hate spreading rumours but I've heard this more than once from people that work at the various stores in the area.


telco_mtl

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said by df909:

said by Guspaz:

The other day, I wanted to buy the new Star Trek: TNG blurays. I asked in The Source. They don't sell blurays. I asked friends and co-workers if they knew of any place where you could buy DVDs or blurays. Nope. I had to pay $5 in metro tickets to go to the centreville futureshop to buy them.

Have you tried iNetVideo.ca in the carrefour industrielle alliance at Peel metro? Selection is just as good as futureshop from what I've noticed plus it's walking distance to atwater (well, atleast in the summer).

im old enough to still call it simpsons lol


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Well, it's slightly closer, but that's still a 45 minute round trip by foot, so it's not exactly convenient compared to the future shop thirty seconds from work or seven minutes from home
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said by Guspaz:

The other day, I wanted to buy the new Star Trek: TNG blurays. I asked in The Source. They don't sell blurays. I asked friends and co-workers if they knew of any place where you could buy DVDs or blurays. Nope. I had to pay $5 in metro tickets to go to the centreville futureshop to buy them.

Have you tried iNetVideo.ca in the carrefour industrielle alliance at Peel metro? Selection is just as good as futureshop from what I've noticed plus it's walking distance to atwater (well, atleast in the summer).


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The Source is still there (I work in one of the Alexis Nihon office towers). I don't shop at them, because every time I've ever tried to buy something there, they didn't have it, and whenever I've checked their prices online, they're insanely high.

The other day, I wanted to buy the new Star Trek: TNG blurays. I asked in The Source. They don't sell blurays. I asked friends and co-workers if they knew of any place where you could buy DVDs or blurays. Nope. I had to pay $5 in metro tickets to go to the centreville futureshop to buy them.

I'm very hopeful for the new Target they're building. It's not an electronics store, but I'm hoping it can replace much of what I used to get at Futureshop.
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said by telco_mtl:

said by elwoodblues:

said by telco_mtl:

interesting note, in the early 90s i used to always get the american and canadian catalogs, i was always amazed at how products with the same cat no. could be labeled with different brands. A re-branded pioneer 6 disk player in the states was labeled "optimus" and in canada was "genexxa" same box, same cat. no.

They were moving way from the Tandy owned brands, if it had taken off, Radio Shack would have become genexxa here in Canada, they had 2 stores, one in the Eaton centre, and one in Square one.

Never went anywhere.

there were some good deals to be had if you knew who made the products, The RCA branded stuff at RS in the states is all pioneer these days

i miss realistic, archer and tandy lol i even have a TRS-80 coco still in its box

Holy shit, that brings back memories.
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cognizantt

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dang, I never even know the FS at the Forum shut down.
The last time I was there, mid December, I bought a router.

Friendly English speaking staff, very near to where I live.

Now the closest location is by The Bay.

I completely missed the media announcing the shut downs.

Nov 2011 I bought my current computer at FS/Forum.

Radio Shack / The Source was always overpriced. They were in Alexis Nihon - no idea if The Source is still there.

This area seems to be the death knell for retail outlets - long ago Wendy's and Burger King died, Dunkin Donuts shut down, Zellers is now gone with Target replacing them end of the year.



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reply to elwoodblues

said by elwoodblues:

said by telco_mtl:

interesting note, in the early 90s i used to always get the american and canadian catalogs, i was always amazed at how products with the same cat no. could be labeled with different brands. A re-branded pioneer 6 disk player in the states was labeled "optimus" and in canada was "genexxa" same box, same cat. no.

They were moving way from the Tandy owned brands, if it had taken off, Radio Shack would have become genexxa here in Canada, they had 2 stores, one in the Eaton centre, and one in Square one.

Never went anywhere.

4, Georgian Mall and Fairview in Kitchener as well. That was a Keto thing. It got him ousted as President by the board of directors.
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reply to elwoodblues

said by elwoodblues:

said by telco_mtl:

interesting note, in the early 90s i used to always get the american and canadian catalogs, i was always amazed at how products with the same cat no. could be labeled with different brands. A re-branded pioneer 6 disk player in the states was labeled "optimus" and in canada was "genexxa" same box, same cat. no.

They were moving way from the Tandy owned brands, if it had taken off, Radio Shack would have become genexxa here in Canada, they had 2 stores, one in the Eaton centre, and one in Square one.

Back around 2005 they had a concept store at Vaughan Mills and Eaton Centre called "THS Studio" focused on Televisions, MP3 Players, and Mobile Phones. It would not have surprised me if they were testing it for when their RadioShack trademark license expired in 2010 (became a moot point when they lost it in 2005 and rebranded as The Source).

telco_mtl

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reply to elwoodblues

said by elwoodblues:

said by telco_mtl:

interesting note, in the early 90s i used to always get the american and canadian catalogs, i was always amazed at how products with the same cat no. could be labeled with different brands. A re-branded pioneer 6 disk player in the states was labeled "optimus" and in canada was "genexxa" same box, same cat. no.

They were moving way from the Tandy owned brands, if it had taken off, Radio Shack would have become genexxa here in Canada, they had 2 stores, one in the Eaton centre, and one in Square one.

Never went anywhere.

there were some good deals to be had if you knew who made the products, The RCA branded stuff at RS in the states is all pioneer these days

i miss realistic, archer and tandy lol i even have a TRS-80 coco still in its box


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said by telco_mtl:

interesting note, in the early 90s i used to always get the american and canadian catalogs, i was always amazed at how products with the same cat no. could be labeled with different brands. A re-branded pioneer 6 disk player in the states was labeled "optimus" and in canada was "genexxa" same box, same cat. no.

They were moving way from the Tandy owned brands, if it had taken off, Radio Shack would have become genexxa here in Canada, they had 2 stores, one in the Eaton centre, and one in Square one.

Never went anywhere.
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