bt
join:2009-02-26
canada
kudos:1 Reviews:
 ·Start Communicat..
| reply to cpsycho
Re: Futureshop/Bestbuy abruptly shut down a dozen stores said by cpsycho:When a video card of the same make and model is $75 at newegg and $275 at Future Shop, where would you buy it?
Future Shop, after price matching. |
|
|
|
RiamenPremium
join:2002-11-04
Calgary | reply to Guspaz
They closed the MacLeod Trail store here in Calgary. It was a fairly new store that opened in 2011. It had a decent music department that I'm going to miss. |
|
 vue666I'm in the prime of my senilityPremium
join:2007-12-07
Halifax, NS | reply to ekster
said by ekster:Doesn't surprise me... I mean, what kind of a person thinks that it's a good business to own two different stores that offer the exact same thing for the exact same price and place them next to each other everywhere? Twice the space does not mean twice the profit.
In HRM the Bay and Zellers where in the same mall (Mic Mac Mall).... In the US there is a K-Mart often nearby to a Sears outlet... |
|
 donoreoPremium
join:2002-05-30
North York, ON | said by vue666:said by ekster:Doesn't surprise me... I mean, what kind of a person thinks that it's a good business to own two different stores that offer the exact same thing for the exact same price and place them next to each other everywhere? Twice the space does not mean twice the profit.
In HRM the Bay and Zellers where in the same mall (Mic Mac Mall).... In the US there is a K-Mart often nearby to a Sears outlet... There is a bigger difference between those. FS and BB carry exactly the same things most of the time.
--
The irony of common sense, it is not that common.
I cannot deny anything I did not say.
A kitten dies every time someone uses "then" and "than" incorrectly.
I mock people who give their children odd spelling of names. |
|
vue666I'm in the prime of my senilityPremium
join:2007-12-07
Halifax, NS | And I can buy shirts, underwear, pants, blank dvds or a tv at Zellers or the Bay.... But like BB or FS the brands may vary...
Hell K-Mart in the USA even carries Craftsmen products... |
|
 eksterHi there.
join:2010-07-16
Lachine, QC
kudos:1
 ·FreePhoneLine
·TekSavvy DSL
| Zellers is a cheaper, dirtier, crappier, lesser known brands store. The Bay is the more expensive, fancier, more popular brands store.
You cannot go to Zellers and the Bay and find the exact same shirt, nor see the exact same price. Shirts in Zellers are $5-10, shirts in the Bay are $50-100.
BB and FS are the exact same store, exact same inventory, exact same price. |
|
donoreoPremium
join:2002-05-30
North York, ON | reply to Guspaz
Related from Twitter:
Sears Canada confirms that it is laying off about 700 employees. |
|
donoreoPremium
join:2002-05-30
North York, ON | reply to Guspaz
Story on Sears
»business.financialpost.com/2013/···-report/ |
|
Reviews:
 ·Shaw
| reply to Guspaz
I disagree with CBC's argument about "showrooming" having a big impact. Here in Canada we don't have anything like Amazon.COM. We have Amazon.CA but they're mostly geared towards music, movies and books (there electronics section is small and expensive).
I would agree that the competition for computer parts is pretty good but i'm guessing thats a small piece of their overall pie.
I do agree it seems completely inefficient to run both BB and FS in Canada (as its the same company). Here in Victoria they build brand new ones in the same shopping complex. It's completely redundant. I'm sure we all end up paying for it in higher prices (to cover all the extra overhead).
I'm guessing the closures are are from a few stores with poor sales.
We're not like the US. We don't have showrooming and our stores don't really try to compete with the US Black Friday holiday. Competition is much less fierce here as we have less options. |
|
 TLS2000Crazy CanuckPremium
join:2004-02-24
Mississauga, ON
·TekSavvy Cable
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| reply to bt
said by bt:said by donoreo:A lot of them were located beside each other before BB bought FS. I did not think it made sense to keep both brands going.
They've also built new ones beside each other, though. BB bought Futureshop just before their first stores opened up here. They never actually competed with one another.
--
Tom |
|
TLS2000Crazy CanuckPremium
join:2004-02-24
Mississauga, ON Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| reply to fast4ward
said by fast4ward:Future Shop Erin Mills closing.
Here we have a Best Buy on the south side of Dundas and FS on the north. FS is a bit more out of the way and not so much traffic.
Redundancy is the operative word
I always wondered why they opened that location. It was too hidden for people to go there. It would have been way more busy if it was facing Dundas.
--
Tom |
|
TLS2000Crazy CanuckPremium
join:2004-02-24
Mississauga, ON Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| reply to bt
said by bt:said by cpsycho:When a video card of the same make and model is $75 at newegg and $275 at Future Shop, where would you buy it?
Future Shop, after price matching. Nope. That's where they pull the BS about the competitor not being an "authorized" competitor. They misinterpret their own fine print in order to screw you. They did that to me. I tried to get them to price match Visions but they claimed that since Visions is out of province, they won't match it. Their policy says NOTHING about that. It cost them a $600 sale. That was FS.
BB did the same thing when I tried to buy a Wacom tablet. They said that they didn't authorize Canada Computers as a competitor of them so they wouldn't price match. Their actual policy says that the competitor has to be authorized to sell the product by the manufacturer of the product, not by FS/BB.
--
Tom |
|
 Wolfie00My dog is an elitistPremium
join:2005-03-12
kudos:5 | said by TLS2000:They said that they didn't authorize Canada Computers as a competitor of them so they wouldn't price match.
Translation: "we're not going to price match because we don't want to." Brilliant strategy! 
They did price match things for me on occasion, even though the only reason I was shopping there was that the competitor with the lower price was out of stock! But I wasn't asking for outrageous discounts. |
|
TLS2000Crazy CanuckPremium
join:2004-02-24
Mississauga, ON | Exactly! They have a posted policy, but they only follow it if they feel like it.
What I see happening is that one chain is going to disappear. They'll rebrand it all to either Best Buy or Future Shop.
--
Tom |
|
 TOPDAWGPremium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON
kudos:3
1 edit | reply to TLS2000
agree I wanted to PM a BR at future shop after 20 forking mins of waiting around no go. They make up some many BS reasons not to PM it's nuts. I also seem to recall they just started to match online pricing not to long ago but that is a new thing so yeah I'll get the graphics card online as far as I know they just started to match online pricing.
I do know to just close up shop without warning the workers is just outright BS and should be illegal.
Now zellers how they stayed open so many years is is beyond me as their prices are god awful. Hell even the stores closing have prices where I can get the stuff other places for cheaper.
Oh man barrie south end is gone my buddy worked there. |
|
 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to milnoc
said by milnoc:I believe the Forum location once sold vacuum cleaners on the ground floor. But the last time I was there was probably six to eight years ago, so I can't be sure. Perhaps it was different long ago, but the Forum location does not have a ground floor. There is an entrance on that level but it's just a tiny bit of floorspace where they keep their elevator and stairway up to their store on the floor above.
Futureshop always made pricematching a hassle. It had to be the exact same item (and futureshop has lots of futureshop-only SKUs that effectively for price matching), the online retailer had to have a brick and mortars branch (they eventually got rid of this one), and then they had to include the shipping costs in the pricematch, even if it didn't make sense (like if shipping would have been free in a bigger order). And the item had to be instock at that exact moment.
In the end it was rarely worth it to pricematch, because the price difference was very small once you finally found a place that Futureshop was willing to pricematch.
Meanwhile, NCIX price matches almost anything. Their only rules are it has to be in Canada and in stock. All you do to pricematch is paste the URL and price, and they approve most of the time...
--
Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org |
|
peterboroAvatars are for posersPremium
join:2006-11-03
Peterborough, ON | reply to TOPDAWG
said by TOPDAWG: I do know to just close up shop without warning the workers is just outright BS and should be illegal. Obviously a decision made at a corporate level where all the real douche bags in society congregate at the water cooler when not on the golf course. |
|
 Txbronx cheers from cheap seatsPremium
join:2008-11-19
kudos:3
·FreePhoneLine
·Rogers Hi-Speed
·TekSavvy DSL
| reply to donoreo
Good think i read through the thread lol... i was going to mention sears. This is a lot of jobs lost between all 3. |
|
donoreoPremium
join:2002-05-30
North York, ON | reply to peterboro
said by peterboro:said by TOPDAWG: I do know to just close up shop without warning the workers is just outright BS and should be illegal. Obviously a decision made at a corporate level where all the real douche bags in society congregate at the water cooler when not on the golf course. You would probably be surprised. Back when I worked for a mall based electronics retailer that has a different name now, people higher up were some of the hardest working people I have ever seen. I worked directly with district managers and a regional manager (at the time he reported to the President and CEO). If they worked less than 45 hours it was odd. The regional manager, later made VP of sales, he was in early by 8 and never left before 7, often later. I also had a lot of exposure to those higher at head office and it was much the same, a lot of people working hard long hours. This was not universal, there were those that did not. Most of the people in the sales and merchandising side of things worked a lot.
--
The irony of common sense, it is not that common.
I cannot deny anything I did not say.
A kitten dies every time someone uses "then" and "than" incorrectly.
I mock people who give their children odd spelling of names. |
|
ns1225
join:2010-12-30
Montreal, QC | reply to Guspaz
There's some discussion on reddit that the reason for the closure of the Montreal Forum location may have had to do with it being unionized and it was coming for renewal tomorrow. |
|
