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urbanriot
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Re: [Serious] Off to the optometrist

said by Thingamajig:

Sounds like you are describing my migranes.

Yea, that's exactly what the description sounded like to me as well...
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Steve
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Re: [Serious] Off to the optometrist

Flashing when moving the eye is not detached retina, but Posterior Vitreous Detachment; by itself this is not serious because the vitreous can come loose and it's no big deal. Happens all the time.

Where matters is if it happens to pull the retina with it, which happens about 15% of the time in PVR patients. If you start seeing what the doctors call a curtain, or what I'll call an eclipse, in your vision, this is a vision emergency, and you cannot wait even a day. Do not go to an optometrist; find a retinal surgeon.

If you see this eclipse, patch/cover your eyes so that you don't move them around until you are able to get to the surgeon, because moving your eyes creates eddies and vitreous inertia that greatly contributes to further detachment. The retina has the consistency of wet toilet paper, so it's exceptionally fragile. You don't want to fool around with this.

Did I mention vision emergency? NOT KIDDING.

But even if it's only flashes, I'd still get to a retinal surgeon, or at least an optometrist who has an Optomap machine that can see things that even a skilled condensing lens wielder will not see even while dilated. If you have a tear - pre-detachment - they can fix it with laser, as has been suggested above. BIG HAIRY DEAL to catch it before detachment.

You seriously do not want to F around with this; I had one of these last summer, and three optometrists missed my retinal detachment - it's only because I was smarter than they were that I pressed the issue and got it diagnosed properly. I had a vitrectomy that saved my eyesight (if I had waited the weekend that the third optometrist suggested, I'd have lost all central vision in my right eye).

I was told that I was the only patient who ever walked in saying "I believe I have a PVR", and in the process of my recovery told every single doctor things about my condition that they never heard of before.

DO NOT F AROUND WITH THIS.

Steve
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CBC has some incorrect information. The forecast down here was 66F, which is 19C. It was 71F for Needles and when I was down there earlier it was a tad bit warmer than that.

And yeah, went to the dam, then over to Kingman and back through Golden Valley to Bullhead, Laughlin and Needles and then back up through Searchlight to Vegas.



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The last time I saw an ophthalmologist for an exam (you don't see an optometrist for this sort of stuff), he gave me some yellow eye drops and shoved a tube with a lens on the end up against my eye to take a look inside. Afterwards, it was very difficult to move my eye or blink. So yeah, driving is a bad idea after that sort of thing.
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Steve
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said by Guspaz:

The last time I saw an ophthalmologist for an exam (you don't see an optometrist for this sort of stuff), he gave me some yellow eye drops and shoved a tube with a lens on the end up against my eye to take a look inside.

That was dilation (very very common) with a gonioscope (less common), which is not entirely sufficient to confidently diagnose a retinal tear. Optometrists are totally qualified to use a gonioscope.

It's the pupillary dilation that makes it hard to drive after.

Steve — who's literally read the book on retinal detachment
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Guspaz
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He was looking for damage to my retina, IIRC. My optometrist spotted something during a routine exam that concerned him, he referred me to the ophthalmologist, who checked it out, and decided it was just a prominent blood vessel or something.
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EUS
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Thanks for the well wishes.
Saw the optometrist, she gave me drops to dilate my pupils.
She looked, and looked, found nothing, now I'm referred to an ophthalmologist (I have to wait for them to call me).
The optometrist explained that the "slash" in my vision was an ophthalmic migraine, which usually precedes a migraine, something I do not, nor ever suffered from.
She's referred me to an ophthalmologist because of the flashes I see.
She thinks it is neurological in nature as my eyes tested fine, no detached retinas.
There may be a CT scan in my future.
My kids loved the dilated pupils, it reminded them of their cartoon movies because in every movie, when nice animals go wild, their pupils dilate.
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Anav
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reply to urbanriot

said by urbanriot:

said by Thingamajig:

Sounds like you are describing my migranes.

Yea, that's exactly what the description sounded like to me as well...

I was experiencing migraines the other day and after talking to my doctor we concluded it was from reading too many of Urbans posts. In other words eye strain and bad posture in front of the PC. Hopefully your symptoms stem from some equally benign roots.
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reply to EUS

Sounds like good news but I'd get a second opinion, just in case.

Your eyes REALLY are not something you want to fool around with, especially since the weekend is coming and it might be more difficult getting service if your condition degrades.

Good luck!



EUS
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Thanks, yes awaiting the 2nd opinion, I have no idea on how long the wait may be. Could be tomorrow, could be 6 months out.
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I meant I'd go to a different walk-in clinic and see what they think of it. You may end up with an emergency referral to an ophtalmologist instead of just a "don't-call-us-we'll-call-you" referral.


MaynardKrebs
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reply to EUS

said by EUS:

Thanks, yes awaiting the 2nd opinion, I have no idea on how long the wait may be. Could be tomorrow, could be 6 months out.

Walk-in to Toronto Western Hospital emergency dept and tell them you have a problem. It's the got the best hospital opthalmology dept. in the country. There are also some really top-notch people at Toronto East York General & at Scarborough General (or whatever it's called these days).


EUS
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That would be a loooooong walk from Montreal.



urbanriot
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said by Anav:

I was experiencing migraines the other day and after talking to my doctor we concluded it was from reading too many of Urbans posts.

The only cure is euthanasia... urbanriot's euthanasia.

MaynardKrebs
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reply to EUS

said by EUS:

That would be a loooooong walk from Montreal.

If it were my eyes .......


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said by MaynardKrebs:

If it were my eyes .......

I'd be more concerned with my brain rather than my eyes at this point.


g121
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reply to EUS

hi EUS ..

i strongly support MaynardKrebs & Steve's posts here .. i've personally been thru the bad-side of what can happen with your symptoms .. end result, my right eye can kind of make out the Big "E" on the eye chart now.

i wouldn't put all my trust in a regular optometrist for this; the penalty for a missed call is too great. this is a job for an ophthalmologist or retina specialist right away .. if you can't get an appointment immediately; troop down to emergency to get action. better safe than sorry.

the best of luck to you .. cheers



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reply to Guspaz

said by Guspaz:

The last time I saw an ophthalmologist for an exam (you don't see an optometrist for this sort of stuff), he gave me some yellow eye drops and shoved a tube with a lens on the end up against my eye to take a look inside. Afterwards, it was very difficult to move my eye or blink. So yeah, driving is a bad idea after that sort of thing.

the yellow drops contain flourescein dye plus anaesthetic


EUS
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Thanks for the advice, if I hear nothing from the hospital in a day or two, I will take action.
I definitely would not like to end up as your avatar.
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vue666
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I hope all goes well for you... and this is easily treatable...

Take care and God bless....