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tubbynet
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Re: [HELP] Cisco NewB with console cable, ASA-5505 & much grief,

said by DarkLogix:

Personaly I'm at a place that uses juniper, and well due to it juniper has made a awful impression on me.

So for now I mess with my cisco gear at home.

juniper makes some solid kit, but just like any other vendor -- it takes knowledge of the code lineage, an understanding of hardware/software limitations, and the best practices for configuration.

in fact -- $current_customer would have a lot fewer headaches if they would have used srx firewalls instead of cisco asa.

juniper mx-kit is pretty solid as well, as long as you know the limitations of mpc, dpc, ms-dpc and how they play inside the chassis.

the ex-series is a little half-baked -- but most of the bugs are solved for simpler switching, etc. when you start running mpls bits on top, then it gets interesting.

long story short -- as a consultant -- you have to keep an open mind when it comes to hardware. blanket statements that $vendor sucks prevent you from developing a true best-of-breed solution. of course -- at times -- you have to tow the line of whichever vendor you are more closely associated with. for me -- that means cisco -- but being a var/partner with multiple companies provides that enablement to choose what is best.

make yourself an olive box. you'll enjoy it.

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aryoba
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said by tubbynet:

said by DarkLogix:

Personaly I'm at a place that uses juniper, and well due to it juniper has made a awful impression on me.

So for now I mess with my cisco gear at home.

the ex-series is a little half-baked -- but most of the bugs are solved for simpler switching, etc. when you start running mpls bits on top, then it gets interesting.

Due to stability, you are not supposed to use the EX series for MPLS since it is a job for the MX series. Of course, some people may have different idea


tubbynet
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said by aryoba:

Due to stability, you are not supposed to use the EX series for MPLS since it is a job for the MX series. Of course, some people may have different idea

considering that juniper has no answer for the me3600/me3800 -- juniper users are turning to things like the ex4500/4550 for parity.

iirc -- this model supports more than one label at imposition -- making it suitable for vpnv4 bits. i think the ex4200 and smaller support only a single push/pop operation -- making them relatively useless in the mpls world.

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DarkLogix
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SRX240H routers and EX4200 switches (with full 48port gig POE)
with the SRX doing the intervlan routing with a 3 port LACP

then they've crashed pretty hard alot.
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