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abcjak

join:2012-12-18
reply to resa1983

Re: Voltage - still no cease and desist letter?

It's strange how things like this can linger with no progress towards a resolution. Sometimes it reaches the point where everybody has forgotten about a case and it pops up in the news years later with an update or outcome. Mitnick's situation comes to mind...


resa1983
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reply to JMJimmy

If they were truly slinking away, they'd dismiss the case.

They're waiting on CIPPIC's motion to intervene to be decided.
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JMJimmy

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said by resa1983:

If they were truly slinking away, they'd dismiss the case.

They're waiting on CIPPIC's motion to intervene to be decided.

Ya, I'm sure they are but at the same time if they aren't sending out the cease and desist and there've been no rumblings about scheduling yet... It makes me wonder if they're ready to toss in the towel but are stalling to see if the judge will deny CIPPIC. It also makes me wonder if they are doing that, is someone documenting it to show that they've been acting in bad faith.


TwiztedZero
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Also, theres this from the Canadian Broad Band forum

This also has Canipre earmarks and that Barry Logan guy messed into it.

I expect we'll see more TPIA suits soon, being fought in Toronto and Montreal and who knows where else next, all for basically the same type of subscriber information.
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WoodenhHead

join:2006-11-19
Kelowna, BC

I also heard about Distributel fighting it. Another link:

»www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6781/125/

Another good sign. :]


kabes

join:2010-05-14
Kitchener, ON
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reply to JMJimmy

Another blow to the copyright trolls:

»www.techdirt.com/articles/201302···=twitter


JMJimmy

join:2008-07-23
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said by kabes:

Another blow to the copyright trolls:

»www.techdirt.com/articles/201302···=twitter


While slightly different (Voltage is only going after those who it captured at 100%) #3 is where I hope Voltage gets slammed as well. Many of their supposed copyright claims they are the foreign sales rep - not the copyright holder. Copyrights remain with the production company and are not assigned in foreign sales deals. Most of them belong to small production companies based in the US, a WPTO (might have this acronym wrong) country, which means those production companies are the ones who have standing to sue.

resa1983
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reply to JMJimmy

A judge just ruled on CIPPIC's intervention. Michael Geist just tweeted it:
"Ct grants CIPPIC motion for leave to intervene in TekSavvy - Voltage copyright case. Have right to file evidence & cross-examine"

This is gonna get gruesome for Voltage.
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TSI Marc
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It'll be interesting to see what they do now.
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HiVolt
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reply to resa1983

Haha, sweet... Bye bye, copytrolls, methinks.
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resa1983
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reply to JMJimmy

A trial of the evidence...
Voltage really doesn't want that considering the Germany case - it's the only time the evidence has been tried, and it was all thrown out.

As well, there have been some major decisions lately in the US (who've seen this a lot longer than us), and they're doubting the evidence, and saying it's not enough to get a court order to get subscriber info.
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Bugblndr

join:2010-03-02
Burlington, ON
reply to JMJimmy

Seems to me like Canipre's "business" is about to become extinct.



shwatkin
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Bowmanville, ON
reply to JMJimmy

Removed - Off Topic - Sorry.


MrMazda86

join:2013-01-29
Kitchener, ON
reply to Bugblndr

said by Bugblndr:

Seems to me like Canipre's "business" is about to become extinct.

Yes... Hopefully this will turn out into an example of what trolling will do to a company. Extortion is never a wise idea as it can only lead to further troubles in the future.


AkFubar
Admittedly, A Teksavvy Fan

join:2005-02-28
Toronto CAN.
reply to JMJimmy

$5 will get you $10 that the trolls pack up and leave. I doubt they are stupid enough to try and bring their flimsy evidence forward in court.
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MrMazda86

join:2013-01-29
Kitchener, ON

bah hahahahahaha!! What evidence? LOL


resa1983
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reply to JMJimmy

Marc got the document up.
»www.teksavvy.com/Media/Default/C···nted.PDF

Essentially states that BECAUSE Teksavvy wouldn't fight it, and because of the thousands of potential defendants, CIPPIC was granted full intervenor status.

Which they didn't get in the BMG case.

What that means, is they can submit evidence, and cross-examine the affidavit from Barry Logan, and can probably put his butt up on the stand.
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JMJimmy

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reply to TSI Marc

said by TSI Marc:

It'll be interesting to see what they do now.

Indeed. Marc, can I ask has their been any movement from Voltage on the cease and desist?

resa1983
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said by JMJimmy:

said by TSI Marc:

It'll be interesting to see what they do now.

Indeed. Marc, can I ask has their been any movement from Voltage on the cease and desist?

He posted in Canadian Broadband:
»Voltage Versus Teksavvy, Round 2 Continued

Still nada.
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TSI Marc
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The doc is up on our site: »www.teksavvy.com/en/why-teksavvy···ormation
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creed3020
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said by TSI Marc:

The doc is up on our site: »www.teksavvy.com/en/why-teksavvy···ormation

I don't see the C&D letter, I assume you must mean CIPPIC getting intrevenor status?


TSI Marc
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yeah. they never replied to us with a draft C&D letter. *shrug*
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MaynardKrebs
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It was strapped to the leg of the last carrier pigeon.
Musta got lost.



HiVolt
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reply to TSI Marc

said by TSI Marc:

yeah. they never replied to us with a draft C&D letter. *shrug*

It's obvious they dont want to do C&D. It doesn't fit their shakedown for profit model...

Honestly, I think they are bigger crooks than the file sharers they are trying to "bring to justice".
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creed3020
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reply to MaynardKrebs

said by MaynardKrebs:

It was strapped to the leg of the last carrier pigeon.
Musta got lost.

Must have fallen into the same volcano that is being used to "cleanse" evidence of downloaded files on the accused PC's.


TwiztedZero
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reply to MaynardKrebs

said by MaynardKrebs:

It was strapped to the leg of the last carrier pigeon.
Musta got lost.

Voltage doesn't have "carrier pigeons" I think they tried to use vultures but they couldn't get any accross the border.

MaynardKrebs
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said by TwiztedZero:

said by MaynardKrebs:

It was strapped to the leg of the last carrier pigeon.
Musta got lost.

Voltage doesn't have "carrier pigeons" I think they tried to use vultures but they couldn't get any accross the border.

My bad.


hm

@videotron.ca
reply to HiVolt

said by HiVolt:

Haha, sweet... Bye bye, copytrolls, methinks.

I'm not sure what will happen, but... It's in their best interest to go ahead with everything.

*If* they win and can get the names it's going to legitimize both canipre and the bs info, and *any* trolling (not just voltages trolling).


sbrook
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join:2001-12-14
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Yup, and you can expect Konrad von F's ruling on music sharing to go down in flames too.



hm

@videotron.ca

said by sbrook:

Yup, and you can expect Konrad von F's ruling on music sharing to go down in flames too.

Indeedy.

And what will happen?

Tens of thousands of people will all blame CIPPIC and Teksavvy.

Not that we are putting any pressure on anyone... That's just the way the diced rolled.