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Re: Voltage - still no cease and desist letter?

said by abcjak:

This is exactly what i was saying to a co-worker. His point was "who cares about the Voltage situation and the case because their movies are crappy" He is so short sighted and said it so smugly it made me angry. Don't you think other music/movie/software companies are watching this and most likely taking some early steps at setting up to be next in line if Voltage get's a win in any sense?

Ask him why he thinks that if the movie is of higher quality it deserves less "protection" than a movie of lower quality? Yeah, I mean it that way around. Obviously, if he will only complain about litigation on a high quality movie, he means only high quality movies are deserving of some free piracy.


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said by hm :

This is a possibility. But it wouldn't be a wise one. The courts themselves would see it for what it is, which i'm sure they don't want.

If they had to go again, they could just license the rights out to a 3rd party corporation in order to litigate, and yeah the judge would see through it, but seeing as another party was litigating they couldn't be accused of gaming the system.
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said by El Quintron:

said by hm :

This is a possibility. But it wouldn't be a wise one. The courts themselves would see it for what it is, which i'm sure they don't want.

If they had to go again, they could just license the rights out to a 3rd party corporation in order to litigate, and yeah the judge would see through it, but seeing as another party was litigating they couldn't be accused of gaming the system.

Ask how well that worked for Righthaven.

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I forget if i asked here or mentioned it to a friend, but if logless vpn's and proxies are available, why can't an ISP operate the same manner or partner up with such a business and offer a combined in-house type service for a nominal add-on fee?



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said by JMJimmy:

Ask how well that worked for Righthaven.

Point being, Rightraven (or it's Canadian incarnation) takes all the risk, and the real copyright holder gets to continue without being bound by any judgement.

It may have been a poor attempt, but the actual content owners get to fight another day.
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said by El Quintron:

said by JMJimmy:

Ask how well that worked for Righthaven.

Point being, Rightraven (or it's Canadian incarnation) takes all the risk, and the real copyright holder gets to continue without being bound by any judgement.

It may have been a poor attempt, but the actual content owners get to fight another day.

The result of the case was that you can't "assign" copyrights like that without transferring the full rights. If you sue and lose you lose your copyright as well - they lost everything though their entire database ended up being worth $0 at auction.


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said by JMJimmy:

The result of the case was that you can't "assign" copyrights like that without transferring the full rights. If you sue and lose you lose your copyright as well - they lost everything though their entire database ended up being worth $0 at auction.

I truly hope history repeats itself, but having worked in the content industry for a couple of years, I can tell you that shell games are a forte in the industry, so there's no reason they won't be trotting out Rightraven 2.0 this time around.
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said by El Quintron:

said by JMJimmy:

The result of the case was that you can't "assign" copyrights like that without transferring the full rights. If you sue and lose you lose your copyright as well - they lost everything though their entire database ended up being worth $0 at auction.

I truly hope history repeats itself, but having worked in the content industry for a couple of years, I can tell you that shell games are a forte in the industry, so there's no reason they won't be trotting out Rightraven 2.0 this time around.

The laws are quite specific about it in Canada to prevent that type of situation. There can be only 1 author of a work. Individual interests may have claims on revenue from that work but there's only 1 who has ownership/copyright of a work and they are the ones with standing to sue. I honestly believe in at least 3-4 of the works cited Voltage is committing fraud by claiming they are the rights holders. (Example: The Magic of Belle Isle for which the copyright is held by BCDF Pictures)