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IowaCowboy
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Game shopping (BB RewardZone vs GS PowerUp)

I went into a GameStop to buy some used AV cables so I can connect both the Wii U and the original Wii both at the same time (I had to rob the cables off the Wii to hook up my new Wii U since the Wii U does not include the cables to hook up to a standard def TV) and they signed me up for Power Up rewards. I usually buy my gadgets (gaming and other items such as computer gear, TV gear, toner cartridges, etc) at Best Buy and I have a RewardZone card. I am wondering who's loyalty program is better (Best Buy RewardZone or GameStop Power Up Rewards).
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C0deZer0
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The rewardzone actually gives you money back in the form of gift certs, but you don't have to use it toward just games. Not to mention that if you follow with their app on a smartphone or tablet, then there's usually other deals you could take advantage of that multiply your reward points and/or gain you automatic bonuses to take advantage of.

The amount you'd have to spend at a Gamestop to get anything from their program goes beyond absurd.
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danawhitaker
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said by C0deZer0:

The rewardzone actually gives you money back in the form of gift certs, but you don't have to use it toward just games. Not to mention that if you follow with their app on a smartphone or tablet, then there's usually other deals you could take advantage of that multiply your reward points and/or gain you automatic bonuses to take advantage of.

The amount you'd have to spend at a Gamestop to get anything from their program goes beyond absurd.

That actually does depend. There are also other perks built into PowerUp Rewards aside from coupons, like 10% off used accessories and games across the board and 10% bonus trade-in credit. If you plan on buying the used games, it may pay off. You earn 10 points per dollar for new items, 20 points for used, and 20 points per dollar on anything you trade in. The ratios are equal to Best Buy if your purchases are used stuff or from trading stuff in, and worse if you only buy new stuff. I think it all depends on what you buy.

Personally, I shun Best Buy like the devil, unless I can avoid it. Generally anything I'd want to get there I can get on Amazon, just for less, or at least equal price. It looks like with Best Buy you have to spend $250 ($1 = 1 point and one $5 gift certificate costs 250 points). On many electronics items, you could probably save $5 off of $250 just by buying it on Amazon. I got my Wii U games cheaper on Amazon before Christmas than Best Buy was selling them for. New Super Mario Wii U was $5 cheaper.

The problem with any reward program is you feel pressured to only shop at that store, and if you shop around for bargains from a variety of places you'll probably end up doing better. It's sort of like only buying Coke to get the points. If Pepsi's half the price of Coke one week, you're wasting a lot of money just trying to get the Coke points. Price matching might help a bit, I guess, with reducing the cost difference between retailers.
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C0deZer0
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Maybe for you, but I don't make a habit of buying used hardware, as Gamestop has effectively no quality control whatsoever. Especially with the amount of people just on this site that talk about sending their barely-working consoles and stuff to Gamestop for trade-in to get something else. At least with Best Buy, you're usually getting something new.

I've personally been bitten so many times by Gamestop, that I as well only go there if I have to. All the more frustrating because they are the only chain/store around that will even bother to do anything with used games, systems, or accessories.

With the gamer's club on the Reward Zone, you're supposed to be able to get $10 of rewards per $150 spent on qualifying gaming items, like when you go buy a new game or a console, or a controller there. And for the most part, I usually try to get new items when I'm at a Best Buy anyway. And what few times I had bought a system or handheld used from Gamestop, I've quickly come to regret it.
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danawhitaker
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said by C0deZer0:

Maybe for you, but I don't make a habit of buying used hardware, as Gamestop has effectively no quality control whatsoever. Especially with the amount of people just on this site that talk about sending their barely-working consoles and stuff to Gamestop for trade-in to get something else. At least with Best Buy, you're usually getting something new.

I've personally been bitten so many times by Gamestop, that I as well only go there if I have to. All the more frustrating because they are the only chain/store around that will even bother to do anything with used games, systems, or accessories.

With the gamer's club on the Reward Zone, you're supposed to be able to get $10 of rewards per $150 spent on qualifying gaming items, like when you go buy a new game or a console, or a controller there. And for the most part, I usually try to get new items when I'm at a Best Buy anyway. And what few times I had bought a system or handheld used from Gamestop, I've quickly come to regret it.

Used hardware can be iffy. I was referring more to used games themselves. I've never had an issue with one of those, in 13 years of buying used games from them (or whatever they were before Gamestop, I think it was Software Etc. when I first started hanging around there). I hesitate to buy new games there because of the fact that employees are (or were, back in the day) allowed to check out any game for a few days and then return it. Now, I could understand the logic of the policy (if employees have a chance to play the games, they can *sell* the games), but what bothered me about it was that the customer had no idea generally. I only knew because I dated someone who worked there. I figure with used games, meh, they're already open anyway.

Though when it comes to used hardware, you can't go buy a used Gamecube, a used Xbox, a used Gameboy Advance, etc., new at Best Buy anyway. Your only option for used hardware from previous generations is Gamestop, thrift stores, garage sales, eBay, or Craigslist pretty much. And if I had to choose one of those to deal with, I'd rather deal with Gamestop if something goes wrong with the hardware.
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For me, I haven't been to Best Buy in years for the same reason danawhitaker stated. Just about anything they sell, can usually be had for a cheaper price on Amazon. Plus, Gamestop is 5 minutes down the road and I pass it to and from work, where as BB is 20-25 minutes.

I don't really buy used, but I have never had a problem with the games anyway, new or used. For the rare time a friend has, they just return it for another one, which is then checked at the store, for free.
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C0deZer0
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The other thing that bothers me with gamestop is how they arbitrarily choose some wonky things regarding what they will or won't accept.

I personally never understood why they won't accept used strategy guides, when they're usually a lot more useful in that state than a game disc that's already got scratches on it (that they then try to blame on you).

Or how they didn't even give the Dreamcast 24 hours from Sega's announcement of leaving the hardware market before they stopped accepting any new trade-ins for the platform at all. Or more recently for me, when I went to trade in my Gamecube hardware as I was migrating to the Wii, that they gave me all sorts of crap of giving me $5 for a $40 Component cable for the GameCube, and then a week later were turning around to sell it for $30. Or how seemingly all gamestops pretty much stopped carrying any PSP accessories or systems within a week of me finding my first Go; I'd really like to know what they would have done if I couldn't have got it replaced for another unit then.

There's also serious discrepancies about the various store policies... how, as an example, while I know that it should be possible to get something shipped to a store closer to you if someone in the 'network' has it, not even a third of the stores around me will even offer to do it if they don't readily carry something.

It really makes me pine for a Bookman's on this side of the country.
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Jon
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I have a GS PowerUp card and I'm still not sure why. You basically earn points to redeem stuff from their site. It's mostly Tee-shirts and key rings and junk no one wants.



C0deZer0
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said by Jon:

I have a GS PowerUp card and I'm still not sure why. You basically earn points to redeem stuff from their site. It's mostly Tee-shirts and key rings and junk no one wants.

Same here; rather, when I went to pick up WWE '13, they kinda just shoved it on me when I explicitly told them I didn't want one anyway.
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danawhitaker
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said by C0deZer0:

said by Jon:

I have a GS PowerUp card and I'm still not sure why. You basically earn points to redeem stuff from their site. It's mostly Tee-shirts and key rings and junk no one wants.

Same here; rather, when I went to pick up WWE '13, they kinda just shoved it on me when I explicitly told them I didn't want one anyway.

You have to activate the card online to even do anything with it though, so even though they convinced you to join (which they need your information for anyway, so you had to have given them that some point in the process) you don't actually have to use it.

I'm assuming by this point people are thinking I'm some kind of PowerUp Rewards shill - I'm not, I don't even have an account myself. But saying something was forced on you when you have to jump through several hoops to register is a bit of a reach.
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Jon
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Not sure if you're replying to both of us but I signed up willingly. Didn't mean to imply otherwise. I meant I'm not sure why cause it's basically useless unless you like shirts and trinkets. They have a couple of good coupons on there but they're like 50K points.



danawhitaker
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Not to you, Jon. Your post just got caught up in the quote-mobile there.
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C0deZer0
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said by danawhitaker:

You have to activate the card online to even do anything with it though, so even though they convinced you to join (which they need your information for anyway, so you had to have given them that some point in the process) you don't actually have to use it.

I'm assuming by this point people are thinking I'm some kind of PowerUp Rewards shill - I'm not, I don't even have an account myself. But saying something was forced on you when you have to jump through several hoops to register is a bit of a reach.

They require the same information in order to preorder something at all. And with how the store works, they won't bother carry a new game unless you do.

The program and the amount of points required for actual rewards vs. the points earned on a purchase through their Power-Up rewards are a complete joke.
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danawhitaker
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True, but you could always say no to the card.

I'm not saying the program itself is inherently a good bargain, particularly if you only buy new stuff. It *is* a good bargain if you buy a metric crapton of used games and have the paid membership because you get 10% off all used games. My friend did it just for that really and he doesn't even pay attention to the points. But he buys about $30-50 in used games a month, sometimes more, and that's $3-5 off each time. It's clear from the way the program is designed (more points on used purchases than new purchases) that it benefits the type of customer who purchases used games more.

Reward programs always have some catch to them or something that benefits the retailer more. They're ultimately designed to con you into being exclusively loyal to that retailer (the grocery stores around here are big into that now, with gas discounts for purchasing certain items). The goal is to get you to buy stuff you normally wouldn't, or stuff that you normally would at higher prices than you'd pay elsewhere. Best Buy and Gamestop are equally bad about that. The printer I just paid $90 for a few weeks ago on Amazon retails at Best Buy for $130. I wonder how many people would be tempted to go ahead and get it at Best Buy anyway just for the points?
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C0deZer0
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I did say no to the card. they still shoved it on me anyway.

As I said, gamestop has zero respect for their customers.
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danawhitaker
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said by C0deZer0:

I did say no to the card. they still shoved it on me anyway.

As I said, gamestop has zero respect for their customers.

Leave it laying on the counter? Ask for a manager (though I suppose the manager could have been ringing you up)? Call corporate? They can't force you to activate it online once you get home anyway, which you have to be able to do to access the points and everything anyway. Tell them you'll cancel your preorder and purchase the game elsewhere if they push the issue? I turn them down every time I'm there (and they have my info on file from past preorders) because I don't shop there consistently enough to keep a point balance that would be worth spending. I've never had an employee do that. I'm not saying that the employee didn't maybe pressure you, but there's a difference between feeling pressured and being forced. Forced implies you had no option, but there are options that you can avail yourself of in that scenario.

Every time I buy something at Best Buy or Toys R Us they try to pressure me into buying a product replacement plan. Know how many I've bought? Zero. Those stores also have no respect for their customers because they know those PRPs are complete BS. By now, we should all realize that the majority of corporations have little respect for their customers and care mostly about their bottom line. That's not a trait that Gamestop has the monopoly on through any stretch of the imagination.
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stonhinge
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The screwy thing is, there's 2 different version of the card. The basic is basically just "points for purchases". the "Pro" version is the one that costs $14.99/yr and nets you 10% bonus points on all purchases, 10% bonus trade-in credit, 10% off used games/accessories and new strategy guides. Oh and a "Buy 2 get 1 free" coupon good on preowned games only. And their monthly "magazine".

So basically, you'd need to be spending $149.90 on used stuff to "pay" for it, or use the coupon. I don't know about you guys, but I rarely go in anywhere to buy more than one game at a time. I suppose if there happened to be 2 other games i happened to be looking for, or if I had more than one system like I once did, it *might* be worth it.

But frankly, I prefer new games anyways.

As an aside, but related, I know for a fact that employees are told to get a certain number of reward program members in a certain period of time. Failure to do so can result in anything from loss of hours to termination. Same for preorders.
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danawhitaker
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That doesn't surprise me at all about employees, they were into the preorder pushing when I had friends that worked there years ago. I have my doubts Best But is much different about pushing their extended warranties though, and upselling people on expensive HDMI and USB cables they don't need. I'm sure the people who are good at that magically get more hours too.

Best Buy also has a "better" version called Premier Silver that you get into once you spend at least $2500 a year.

»myrewardzone.bestbuy.com/silver/benefits

And yes, with the GameStop membership, it depends on what kind of gamer you are. My friends collects a lot of old games that you can't buy new anymore. Well you can, but buying them new usually means hitting up eBay and trusting sellers to be honest about their sealed copies, and paying a lot more for the item than you would used at GameStop. And in that instance, it's not like buying a new copy benefits the publishers or developers anyway. That $150 goes quite quickly for him.



stonhinge
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Agreed on the extended warranties. But for cables and such, they've no way to track that to an associate (unless the manager's watching). They just push those to help the bottom line because part of the time, they'll need the cable anyway. Probably not such an expensive one, but Average Shopper generally doesn't want to wait a few days or so for a cable so he can use his new printer. that's if he knows where to look in the first place.

The only thing I go to Best Buy/GameStop for is if I *need* to have it right now. For GameStop, that's pretty much never. for Best Buy, it's generally only if something on my computer has crapped out or isn't working properly. Otherwise, it gets ordered online.

The only good thing about the GameStop program vs. Best Buy is that the GS points don't expire.
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C0deZer0
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I'm not sure I would go that far on the warranties... depending on the device, some I've come to use rather frequently.

Up until they changed their policy regarding handhelds and consoles, it was a boon for consoles, especially the Nintendo DS. Also used it with the Xbox 360, to allow me to have the model I have now. And thanks to my rather rotten luck with bluetooth earpieces, same deal there.

If it's something you expect to be using every day and want working, and depending on the terms, it can be worth your time. If ever something does go wrong, at least you can exchange quickly, which is a plus.
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danawhitaker
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said by stonhinge:

Agreed on the extended warranties. But for cables and such, they've no way to track that to an associate (unless the manager's watching). They just push those to help the bottom line because part of the time, they'll need the cable anyway. Probably not such an expensive one, but Average Shopper generally doesn't want to wait a few days or so for a cable so he can use his new printer. that's if he knows where to look in the first place.

The only thing I go to Best Buy/GameStop for is if I *need* to have it right now. For GameStop, that's pretty much never. for Best Buy, it's generally only if something on my computer has crapped out or isn't working properly. Otherwise, it gets ordered online.

The only good thing about the GameStop program vs. Best Buy is that the GS points don't expire.

Actually, GS can expire as well. From their FAQ:

"Do my points ever expire?
Yes, they can. If there is no account activity posted to your account for one year (12 consecutive months), the account is subject to closure and termination, including forfeiture of all accrued points. "Activity" is defined as making a purchase or a trade at GameStop or GameStop.com or making a purchase of Kongregate Kreds on Kongregate.com."
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Snakeoil
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Rumor has it that Best Buy may be hurting for business.

I used to shop them all the time, now I shop Target, wal-mart, gamestop. I don't like BB business practices.

I've never had issues with gamestop. But then again, I seldom buy games new. I hate getting ripped off. IMO, a $60 game better satisfy me/give me the same feeling as a woman whose services I purchased for 60 bucks. To date, no game has met that requirement, hence they are over priced. More aligned with a Meth addict selling her services for 10 to 20 bucks to buy more drugs.
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Snakeoil
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said by Jon:

I have a GS PowerUp card and I'm still not sure why. You basically earn points to redeem stuff from their site. It's mostly Tee-shirts and key rings and junk no one wants.

I have a boat load of points on my GS card. The only other use for it is when it comes to buying games. Supposedly you can get a free used one when you buy 2 new ones. Or that is a promo they run when they have a large stockpile of used games.

Heck the only reward card that does me any good is Great Harvest. About once a month I get a 5 dollar off coupon.

I don't even think CVS has paid us that type of reward.
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