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Grumpy
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join:2001-07-28
NW CT

[WIN7] 64 bit Windows 7 vs. an old DOS app

I could use some advice on getting an old DOS app to run on a Windows 7 64 bit machine.

I tried FreeDos, but it seems to require the Windows 7 install disks. The box in question has no Windows 7 install disks.

Thanks


GILXA1226
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join:2000-12-29
Dayton, OH
DOSBox maybe?

»www.dosbox.com/


plencnerb
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join:2000-09-25
Carpentersville, IL
kudos:3
reply to Grumpy
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The Game itself
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Section of the User Manual
I second the vote for DOSBox. I am currently running it to play a very old game called Sherlock. Screen shot included above for reference.

There is a word document that came with the game. See Pic #2 for a section of that document, and take note of the dates, and system requirements!

To get the screen shot of the game, it is in a window. But, you can run things in full screen mode without the window if you want.

I am currently running Windows 7 Enterprise x64, and it runs without any issues.

By the way, DOSBox also works without any problems on Windows 8.

--Brian
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Shootist
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join:2003-02-10
Decatur, GA
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reply to Grumpy
Yup DOSBox. But why doesn't your PC have install disc/s. With most manufactured PC there is a Utility to Create a set of System Discs and with some, like Dell computers, you can create the Real OS install DVD or ISO to burn to DVD or USB thumb drive.

said by Grumpy:

I could use some advice on getting an old DOS app to run on a Windows 7 64 bit machine.

I tried FreeDos, but it seems to require the Windows 7 install disks. The box in question has no Windows 7 install disks.

Thanks


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Grumpy
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join:2001-07-28
NW CT

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The client I'm working with apparently never utilized the create system disks option. The machine in question is a late model HP with the appropriate Win 7 MS decals, so I would assume it's a legit OEM licensed unit, just some laziness or lack of understanding during start up I suppose. The machine has been in use for a matter of months so I'm not clear if a proper system disk script could run at this point. Perhaps it could. Not sure, and both of us are extremely limited for time and I go on the road in a new job in a matter of days. It's an "accomplish x hours of _______ in x minutes" scenario at this point.

I'll see how DOSBOX behaves. If that fails, I may have to take a run at making system disks. I'm test running this project on my own Win 7 machine to save time at the client's home.

Thank you.

Shootist
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Decatur, GA
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If the create system disc utility was never run then it should still function and be able to create them.
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bevills1

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reply to Grumpy
Win7 ISO downloads that can be saved and burned to DVD to create Win7 reinstall disks are available at »www.mydigitallife.info/download-···d-links/ if Win7 OS disk is required.


takeahike
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join:2005-01-07
Woodland Hills, CA

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reply to Grumpy
Could anyone help me? I downloaded dosbox and really like it--it runs my dos program (One Person Office by Spinnaker (1989)) in Win7 64 bit fine. What I'm having a lot of trouble with is creating an autoexec.bat file to just run it when I run dosbox without having to mount the drive and run the program each time. The program is located at c:\one and the command line is one.exe so I have to type the following each time.

z:\ mount c c:\one\ --which gives me--
z:\c: --which gives me--
c:\one --which gives me the program--

I've tried following the instructions but apparently it's a little beyond me. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thank you!!!

Update: I got it running but with version 0.73 which has an edit configuration command line right from the start menu. If anyone has any insight how this could be done with 0.74 I'd be interested (still can't figure that out). Thanks again!
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plencnerb
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Carpentersville, IL
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The screen shot that I showed in this thread of the old dos game Sherlock is being run with version 0.74 of DosBox.

I'm not sure what you mean by "Mounting" the program.

In my case, I have the files for my game Sherlock located at

C:\Program Files (x86)\Sherlock

The EXE name for the game is "SHERLOCK.EXE".

So, to get it to run, I created a shortcut (see picture).

The target line is
"C:\Program Files (x86)\DOSBox-0.74\DOSBox.exe" "c:\program files (x86)\sherlock\sherlock.exe" -exit -fullscreen -userconf
 

First, we have the full path to where DosBox is installed. Then, I have the full path to the EXE that I want to run. The -exit is there so that once I exit out of the program, the command window that opens will be closed. -fullscreen is so that I run the program in fullscreen mode (not a window). Finally, -userconf is added to the end just to make sure I'm using the configuration file for DosBox. I think you can make changes to the configuration file for different uses, but I have not played around with that yet.

That's all I had to do. So, I would think in your case, you would be able to have something like this

"C:\Program Files (x86)\DOSBox-0.74\DOSBox.exe" "c:\one\one.exe" -exit -fullscreen -userconf
 

Take note of the placement of the " ", as you need to use them if your directory names have spaces.

--Brian

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Michail
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Boynton Beach, FL
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reply to plencnerb
said by plencnerb:

I second the vote for DOSBox. I am currently running it to play a very old game called Sherlock. Screen shot included above for reference.

There is a word document that came with the game. See Pic #2 for a section of that document, and take note of the dates, and system requirements!

To get the screen shot of the game, it is in a window. But, you can run things in full screen mode without the window if you want.

I am currently running Windows 7 Enterprise x64, and it runs without any issues.

By the way, DOSBox also works without any problems on Windows 8.

--Brian

Were you still able to get an license for such an old game?


plencnerb
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join:2000-09-25
Carpentersville, IL
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I'm not sure. I know in the documentation, and on the main screen, there is a name and address of the person to send then $15 to. Not sure what would happen if I tried to do that today.

--Brian


takeahike
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join:2005-01-07
Woodland Hills, CA
reply to plencnerb
Thank you!!!


plencnerb
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Carpentersville, IL
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said by takeahike:

Thank you!!!

I take it you got it working with version 0.74?

--Brian


takeahike
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Woodland Hills, CA

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It's at home and I won't be back there until this evening. I may try it but I'll tell you it sure is simpler with 0.73 with the straight option in the Start Menu. It works fine for me with 0.73--is there any advantage you know of that I should try to get 0.74 working? I'm certainly tempted to just leave well enough alone although it wouldn't be any problem to go back to 0.73 if I couldn't make any progress. I just added the following to the [autoexec] block (the @echo off and exit do their jobs): By the way the mounting is mentioned in the initial instructions.
@echo off
mount c c:\one
c:
one
exit
Hey, again, I really want to thank you for your help!
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plencnerb
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Carpentersville, IL
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I don't know the software well enough to know the differences / fixes between the .074 and the .073 version.

So, if you are able to use the command line option like I showed on .073 and it works, then I would say stay with the version that is working for you!

--Brian


takeahike
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join:2005-01-07
Woodland Hills, CA
The only difference I can see is that they made customization much more complicated with 0.74 although I'm sure that that's not really the case. Certainly looks like a well written program--sure does a job for me that makes things much more convenient--before I had to reboot to my XP on a different hard drive to use the program (which of course took all day). The program is just a small bookkeeping program for my business, and I just like it too much to update to anything else (I've tried). The fonts and also much nicer in the dosbox than at full screen or in XP or when I did run it in Windows 7 32-bit (where it worked).
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"The best laid schemes of mice and men often go awry . . . " --Robert Burns