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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Fri, 08 Feb 2013 00:21:58 EDT

Curiosity posted : Opera has On-demand Plugin with placeholder. The plugin does not load unless you click the placeholder. Both the on-demand and the placeholder are optional, but they work.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:59:52 EDT

sivran posted : Opera's added such a button to the address bar (in either 11 or 12.x), actually. Shows up whenever unloaded plugin content is on a page. I never use it, as it turns on ALL plugin content, rather than just the one you click on.
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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Thu, 07 Feb 2013 10:59:42 EDT

Blackbird posted :

said by sivran:

It's about damn time. Opera's had this--though not by default--forever.

Yep... back amidst the version 9.x series, I somewhere picked up a custom button to enable/disable plug-ins right from the toolbar instead of the menu. I've been using it ever since... though any more, I keep plug-ins turned off the vast majority of the time.
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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Thu, 07 Feb 2013 06:57:22 EDT

sivran posted : It's about damn time. Opera's had this--though not by default--forever.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Wed, 06 Feb 2013 23:19:56 EDT

therube posted : Have you ever opened your browser & out of the blue, you hear something? Music or what sounds like a news clip, something like that?

Or you've had your browser open & somewhere along the line, out of the blue, that happens.

(Really embarrassing when its a porn clip that starts playing :o.)

Well that used to happen to me a lot (in particular the porn clips).

Though it has been a long time since anything like that has happened.
(No I did not stop watching porn :p.)

But today, it did!

I had SeaMonkey open, with over 70 windows & over 1000 tabs. I had Chrome open, with one window & oh perhaps 20 tabs. And I had an old version of FF open with a couple windows & perhaps 10 tabs.

DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK ME TO FIND THE CLIP THAT WAS PLAYING!

I "knew" it was FF. Flipped through its tabs, didn't see anything suspect, but thought I just missed it. Closed FF.

It was not music to my ears, this clip, somewhere was still playing.

OK, SeaMonkey. But SeaMonkey does nothing without my say so. I've got NoScript installed, & Flash does not "just start working" on its own. Only if I were to actually "click to play" it. (Click-to-play may be new on FF, but ages old with NoScript.) It could not be coming from SeaMonkey, but then from where?

Chrome, I had totally forgotten about, having opened that much earlier today. Hadn't interacted with it in a good while. Ah, Chrome. So I start flipping through its tabs, & finally I find the offender, the page playing the (news, not porn, silly) clip.

All I can say is that I am glad that I have things like "click to play" available to me. (And then too things like the option to not [fully] load a page until that page has been given focus. IOW hundreds of pages that I might not visit in a particular session have not fully loaded, lessening demands on my system placed by my browser.)

Choice is great. (Though I could present you with an argument on that ;-).)

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Wed, 06 Feb 2013 18:58:56 EDT

Mele20 posted : We are discussing Mozilla finally doing what Proxo has always done...give folks the freedom to decide whether or not to let a plugin run when a webpage is opened or instead have a toggle switch so the user can decide for themselves what happens. The issue is the same as allowing users to control cookies or forcing users to accept all cookies....willy-nilly. It is not a security issue as much as it is an issue of USER CONTROL and right to privacy and not being subjected to some crappy Flash movie unless they desire to see it. So, Flash is just as important, and actually probably more so, because Flash is on so many web pages and Java is not. Who wants some crappy, garbage Flash movie playing when you open a web page? Most users would prefer to choose if they wish to see the Flash movie.
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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:28:39 EDT

Blackbird posted :

said by Selenia:

... Flash is not near the security issue it once was. Adobe has made good strides there and Google even +1s them by sandboxing the plugin in Chrome. This was a first for Mozilla and Java is far more dangerous atm.

It can be an ugly digital world out there. Any company producing software for the universe of Internet-facing computers has to be dead serious about security and software protection in a major way, or they will face extinction... it's a classic situation of 'go big or go home'. Adobe seems to be learning the lesson (though there may be some dissent on that), and there are now signs Oracle has finally awakened to the smell of smoke and is starting to focus resources on securing Java. Frankly, I have genuine hope for both of them to succeed in this... as I do for all software makers. But the sad reality seems to remain that only when a highly-publicized security mess occurs, will most companies grudgingly spend the resources to patch up their products that were flawed from inception.
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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:09:53 EDT

Selenia posted :

said by Mele20:

A bit behind the times? How? I have always hated Flash from its inception. I think I still have a bookmark to an prophetic article about the dangers in Flash (not particularly security dangers either) from back around 1999-2000.

»www.nngroup.com/articles/flash-9···ent-bad/

Because Flash is not near the security issue it once was. Adobe has made good strides there and Google even +1s them by sandboxing the plugin in Chrome. This was a first for Mozilla and Java is far more dangerous atm.
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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:53:13 EDT

Uncle Paul posted : My plugins on OSX FF are Flash, Quicktime, Sharepoint, and Lync.

Sharepoint and Lync are needed for enterprise use.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Wed, 06 Feb 2013 04:09:11 EDT

Mele20 posted : A bit behind the times? How? I have always hated Flash from its inception. I think I still have a bookmark to an prophetic article about the dangers in Flash (not particularly security dangers either) from back around 1999-2000.

»www.nngroup.com/articles/flash-9···ent-bad/
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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Wed, 06 Feb 2013 03:13:36 EDT

Selenia posted : You are a bit behind the times, Mele20. While none of these runtimes are fool proof in exploits, Adobe took their previous failures seriously and got serious about plugging Flash. Seen how many updates they have had(even for Linux)? Some improved hardware acceleration but a good many of them addressed security issues. Adobe got its butt in gear(had to, to save its platform), now Oracle has to.

Mozilla just started doing this and Adobe has improved since they started doing it. I say the best way to approach the unknowledgeable with a screen that says they are disabled. Then give 2 choices: to be directed to update the plugin or disable further warnings(not recommended) with a link to info. It keeps the users freedom while giving the non-savvy warning to get off their butt and update their plugins.
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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Tue, 05 Feb 2013 13:42:52 EDT

Phoenix22 posted :

said by redwolfe_98:

it is not going to be good if they block the 10.x version of flash player.. lots of people have problems with the 11.x version of flash player when using it with "firefox"..

look at what mozilla support says for solving problems with flash player.. over and over and over again they say the solution to all of the problems is to use the 10.x version of flash player:

»support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ado···-crashed

i have only heard one person say that they didn't have problems with using the 11.x version of flash player with firefox, and i have to wonder if the reason is that that one person never tried using flash player to watch videos, where all they saw it used for was to generate a graphic on a webpage..

all versions of flash have issues w/ FF going back so far i can't remember........if one just hits the re-load ........from the browser reload.....it works fine.......i have my u-toob playlists running all day long........
»www.youtube.com/user/phoenixdoubledeuce

w/o issues........FF is a memory hog..........however

eventually you may experience a mem dump..........

granted...it could system and processor resources.........but itz not an issue w/my box.........i'm an update junkie........as well

a clean box runs better........guaranteed.......
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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Tue, 05 Feb 2013 10:15:17 EDT

therube posted : Then don't install Flash, period.
Then disable Flash in Addons Manager.
Then block Flash - using click-to-play, using NoScript, using FlashBlock, or whatever other means fit your needs.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Tue, 05 Feb 2013 07:36:35 EDT

Mele20 posted :

said by Khaine:

Further, flash is proprietary software, that inhibits the uptake of open standards like html video, so I'm not quite sure how you can equate blocking it to tyranny. If you want to run insecure software you still can.

No where does it say they are taking that choice away from you.

Flash is NOT being blocked. Mozilla is being hypocritical. Why are they letting Flash run amok on Fx but not Java or Silverlight? I guess Adobe must have given Mozilla a lot of money. :(

I'd far prefer complete and total blockage of Flash...no exceptions...it is a piece of garbage and let Java and Silverlight run as click to play.
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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Tue, 05 Feb 2013 06:39:37 EDT

Khaine posted :

said by goalieskates:

said by NOYB:

It may be your PC but it is their product to design and build anyway they please (see fit). If you don't like their product then don't use it.

Quite frankly the masses need this protection.

The masses have shown that they are not computer literate and need a helping hand at every turn to keep their computer secure.

Further, flash is proprietary software, that inhibits the uptake of open standards like html video, so I'm not quite sure how you can equate blocking it to tyranny. If you want to run insecure software you still can. If you read the original blog post (»blog.mozilla.org/security/2013/0···plugins/) about this:

quote:
Mozilla is changing the way Firefox loads third party plugins such as Flash, Java and Silverlight. This change will help increase Firefox performance and stability, and provide significant security benefits, while at the same time providing more control over plugins to our users.

Previously Firefox would automatically load any plugin requested by a website. Leveraging Click to Play Firefox will only load plugins when a user takes the action of clicking to make a particular plugin play or the user has previously configured Click To Play to always run plugins on the particular website.

No where does it say they are taking that choice away from you.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:25:08 EDT

Mele20 posted : It's OT but briefly, as one example, Microsoft will not allow a user (even with full Admin rights and UAC disabled in the registry) to turn off Automatic Maintenance in Win 8. You can disable it, but it re-enables itself before its next every 24 hour scheduled maintenance).
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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 11:03:48 EDT

therube posted : > Apparently not so. At least not with Win 8.

You're speak of what, the OS itself?

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 11:03:11 EDT

therube posted : > I did not ask for click-to-play

It can be disabled.

> I will say this if moz don't give us a way to fully disable this I will be uninstalling firefox

I'm sure plenty will feel likewise.

> I think this is really more a push to html5

That is a possibility, though I wouldn't expect that to be their reasons for wanting to do this. html5 will have (does have) its own issues.

So we need to stay apprised, see what's going on, see what their intentions are, & steer their decisions.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 08:11:37 EDT

Mele20 posted : Why don't you just disable blocklist in about:config?

extensions.blocklist.enabled;false

I have used the Proxomitron since 2002. It gives me a toggle switch for Flash, Java, etc. I love that because the last thing I want is Flash automatically playing some dumb video when I go to a site. So, I don't see the objection to "click to play". As I understand it, there is no "blocking". Mozilla is doing the same thing Proxo has always done....Mozilla is just very late to the party. ;) I don't use flash on Fx anymore though at all because of the two crap services connected to it that Mozilla has so badly designed that they have to run all the time for no reason.

My current concern is HTML5. Why is Mozilla not also making that click to play? They should.
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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 07:53:41 EDT

Mele20 posted :

said by therube:

And in the end, for every "no you can't", well there is a way to "just say yes".

Apparently not so. At least not with Win 8.
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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 20:27:02 EDT

kickass69 posted : Well atleast I found a way to get around Click-to-Play so to speak. I just open Blocklist.xml and remove everything under the "Pluginitems" section.

As therube pointed out above with »kb.mozillazine.org/Blocklist.xml you can also turn off updating and enter the updates you want from the list online.

This is what Pro users like ourselves and Corporate customers using the ESR releases need to get around this and take back control.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 16:47:10 EDT

Lagz posted :

said by therube:

> If I lose NoScript and Adblock plus, then they will lose me.

Those are extensions, not plugins.

Though if they deemed it necessary, they could block those too, blocklist.xml.

Mozilla isn't blocking "extensions"? Did I mention plug-ins? Nope I mentioned add-ons or "extensions" whichever you prefer. Here's a direct link that siljaline had posted which I was referring to. Blocked

edit: I am extremely happy they are blocking plug-ins. I hate seeing some damned google updater plugin or Microsoft plug-in that I specifically didn't ask for.
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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 15:25:21 EDT

Selenia posted : Got video acceleration. Requires kernel 3.2, Gallium3D(both in backports, gallium is built into the xserver update), and DRI2). You can get 2D with a stock install and "radeon" driver and a little 3D. This gives you 3D. For both scenarios, I needed the restricted firmware(stable is fine for "radeon" driver but backported version needed for Gallium3D to make hardware acceleration work with Open source drivers. Not sure if Flash acceleration was working with "radeon" as I only kept it for a bit and the Gallium3D does work with Flash acceleration. Word of warning, a bug with kde and the driver means you better use xrender mode to avoid corruption when going from full screen opengl to the desktop.
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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 14:26:26 EDT

Maven posted :

said by Selenia:

Flash 11 on Debian Linux running like a champ on this laptop. Then again, I use Chromium(based on Chrome without the GoogleWare). 1080p videos are silky smooth on its somewhat lowly HD4200 graphics but fairly powerful cpu.

Did you manage to get video acceleration going on that 4200? Or is the processor doing the work?

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 14:15:40 EDT

anon posted :

said by ZZZZZZZ:

Why?

Flash is basically the only plugin that is really needed for videos,and with the click to play it'll be easy.

Lets not get too paranoid with this move.........it's a good one.

I did not ask for click-to-play or to break the web with this enabled by default. I will say this if moz don't give us a way to fully disable this I will be uninstalling firefox. I do not like any application blocking previous versions of flash and other plugins under some sort of security garbage that you must click to play first.

As the owner of my PC my choice will be to never use firefox if it cant be disabled.

Just like M$ wanting to charge a monthly fee for the windows blue OS and office its my choice to find better alternatives.

I think this is really more a push to html5 but you would have to ask Mozilla that question. I do see your point this will help safe guard users who don't know the web that well and that is a good thing but for the rest of us I want options not forced compliance.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 14:06:07 EDT

goalieskates posted :

said by NOYB:

It may be your PC but it is their product to design and build anyway they please (see fit). If you don't like their product then don't use it.

Quite frankly the masses need this protection.

The masses do NOT need this protection. Your basic assumption (and that of FF) is that the masses are all stupid and won't listen if warned. It's a top down, we-are-the-experts mindset, much like DHS preaches, and really not that far from tyranny. Big Brother will decide. Even if they get it wrong, they will decide.

It's also light years away from the original spirit of Mozilla. That may not bother you, but it's a definite shift away from what they were, and I find that really sad. They were special, and it made them great. A lot of really generous and talented people contributed to them in a spirit of openness and giving. They didn't sneer at the masses or their own customers.

Now they're just a royal pita, and I find myself unwilling to update any of their stuff for fear of "features" like this one. If nothing else, this gives me newfound respect for all those companies that refuse to budge off IE6 - and find other ways to secure their browsers. Maybe they have a point we've all been overlooking - that you can as easily be taken out by your browser vendor as you can by the bad guys. Either way, you're dead. Heh.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 13:05:33 EDT

ZZZZZZZ posted : Why?

Flash is basically the only plugin that is really needed for videos,and with the click to play it'll be easy.

Lets not get too paranoid with this move.........it's a good one.
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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 12:57:23 EDT

anon posted :

said by kickass69:

There's got to be a way to rip this feature out of Firefox. Pro users like ourselves don't need this. Mozilla has gone the same way as Google with Chrome and Opera...not much different at this rate acting all big brother on us as if they know better than we do and have no control over 'features' like this anymore.

They should make a way to disable this in about:config but if you cant disable this I will uninstall it and go back to another browser.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 12:54:39 EDT

NOYB posted :

said by goalieskates:

said by beck:

Well, what if I don't want my plug ins turned off? Pretty f*ing high handed of them.

+1

It's still my pc, not theirs. My responsibility, and ultimately my decision.

They need to get over themselves.

ETA: Firefox used to be the "yes you can" browser. They've turned into the "no you can't" nanny browser. It's really sad.

It may be your PC but it is their product to design and build anyway they please (see fit). If you don't like their product then don't use it.

Quite frankly the masses need this protection. It is unreasonable to expect everyone out there using a computer to be a tech guru and keeping up to date with all the security threats and issues. Just like it would be unreasonable for everyone out there driving a car to do all their own maintenance and repairs. Some can but the masses cannot. Especially when it comes to safety devices such as brakes and air bags. And it is unreasonable to expect them too. Safety devices are not always only for the safety of the user/operator but the safety of others as well.

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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 12:29:31 EDT

ZZZZZZZ posted : I think it's a great idea!

I use Iron where all my plugins are disabled and the click to play is used.........it works great.

:)
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Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 11:08:04 EDT

therube posted : Do you install security updates from MS?
Including those ones, those "killbits"?

Killbits are "no you can't"?

Do you use that service from Google (also included in FF) that says, "no you can't" when you want to visit a "bad" website?

Do you use the OpenDNS service, & one that filters, oh "bad" stuff? Perhaps porn or warez or whatever "bad" might be, you know, one of those "no you can't" DNS services.

Do you specifically try avoid particular websites when you browse, because you know they are bad or harbor bad things? Well guess what, in that case you are your very own "no you can't".

And in the end, for every "no you can't", well there is a way to "just say yes".

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 10:59:53 EDT

therube posted : > If I lose NoScript and Adblock plus, then they will lose me.

Those are extensions, not plugins.

Though if they deemed it necessary, they could block those too, blocklist.xml.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:27:33 EDT

goalieskates posted :

said by beck:

Well, what if I don't want my plug ins turned off? Pretty f*ing high handed of them.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 08:35:08 EDT

Lagz posted : If I lose NoScript and Adblock plus, then they will lose me.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 08:25:30 EDT

therube posted : It's probably not a bad thing.
They do have the data to back up their move.
(Sending in those crash reports does help.)
They know well what plugins are vulnerable or that do cause crashes.
"Plugins" are the new game & everyone & their sister wants in on it.
All kinds of crapware now end up installing plugins, often unbeknownst to the user.

Take a look at your plugins right now.
(about:plugins & about:addons)
Just what do you have? Anything related to .NET? Windows Activation Technologies?
Just what in the world would anyone need anything like that for?

(Mine says Flash, & the rarely used anymore, WMP plugin.)

Ages ago, I may have used Quicktime. Possibly Real. Bugs, crashes, in those days had forced me to give them up. These days, it is (for me at least) rare to even find those formats & if I happen to, I can download the media & play it in my media player. (That likely is not a viable option for all.)

Would assume even if there is a blanket OFF, there will still be afforded (about:config) Preference methods to enable particular plugins.

quote:
During this change we will monitor the results and feedback of the new settings and UI to ensure we’re providing a quality experience and delivering the many benefits of Click to Play to Firefox users.

And I'm sure they're going to hear a lot of flack about this, & are prepared for that too, & that will affect how they go forward.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 08:09:06 EDT

therube posted :

quote:
January 29, 2013: Flash Player Plugin 10.2.* and lower (click-to-play)

The current version of Flash 10 is 10.3.*, so that is not being blocked (currently).

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 03:08:34 EDT

kickass69 posted : There's got to be a way to rip this feature out of Firefox. Pro users like ourselves don't need this. Mozilla has gone the same way as Google with Chrome and Opera...not much different at this rate acting all big brother on us as if they know better than we do and have no control over 'features' like this anymore.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 01:50:35 EDT

Curiosity posted : What have they got against Quicktime or Windows videos such as asf, wmv or avi? I have seen no problems with those. I can kind of see the objection to Silverlight, since it gives no way to shut off access to webcam or microphone except by setting the wrong device.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 00:26:43 EDT

siljaline posted : • »blog.mozilla.org/security/2013/0···plugins/
• »addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 00:25:03 EDT

beck posted : Well, what if I don't want my plug ins turned off? Pretty f*ing high handed of them.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sat, 02 Feb 2013 21:05:45 EDT

kickass69 posted : Seems like it's just one more way for browser makers to control and collect what we do online. It's not the browser makers responsibility to be parents and keep their kids er users safe. Overreaching vs responsibility, education and common sense.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sat, 02 Feb 2013 21:03:04 EDT

Selenia posted : Flash 11 on Debian Linux running like a champ on this laptop. Then again, I use Chromium(based on Chrome without the GoogleWare). 1080p videos are silky smooth on its somewhat lowly HD4200 graphics but fairly powerful cpu.

Re: Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sat, 02 Feb 2013 20:16:08 EDT

redwolfe_98 posted : it is not going to be good if they block the 10.x version of flash player.. lots of people have problems with the 11.x version of flash player when using it with "firefox"..

look at what mozilla support says for solving problems with flash player.. over and over and over again they say the solution to all of the problems is to use the 10.x version of flash player:

»support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ado···-crashed

i have only heard one person say that they didn't have problems with using the 11.x version of flash player with firefox, and i have to wonder if the reason is that that one person never tried using flash player to watch videos, where all they saw it used for was to generate a graphic on a webpage..

Mozilla will automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox

Sat, 02 Feb 2013 19:31:12 EDT

Smokey Bear posted : NetworkWorld | January 30, 2013

quote:
Mozilla yesterday announced it would automatically disable all plug-ins in Firefox (except the latest version of Adobe's Flash Player), citing security and stability reasons for the move.

The feature, called "click-to-play," has been part of Firefox since version 17, which launched last November, but Mozilla will restrict plug-ins even further going forward.

By default, click-to-play bars plug-in play, but users can override the block by clicking any grayed-out content area on a Web page. The technique has become popular as browser makers try to keep users safe from a rising tide of exploits that leverage bugs in plug-ins, particularly the Java browser plug-in.

Although Mozilla did not define a timeline, it will soon block all plug-ins other than the latest version of Flash. The block will include up-to-date versions of popular plug-ins such as Adobe's Acrobat Reader, Microsoft's Silverlight and Oracle's Java.

Mozilla said the drastic step was needed to safeguard users from "drive-by" attacks, which trigger exploits as soon as a victim visits a malicious or compromised website.

»www.networkworld.com/news/2013/0···266.html
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