Topic '[Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.' in forum 'Comcast Cable TV' - dslreports.com

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV 6 Released

Wed, 15 May 2013 17:21:24 EDT

BiggA posted : It has a lot of problems. Not only is it buggy, but the UI/UX is poor.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Wed, 15 May 2013 17:20:55 EDT

BiggA posted : Yeah, it's around $7-$8 for a CableCard. If you have a DVR and a CableCard, have them code the CableCard as the primary on the account, it will come at no charge, and then put the DVR on as a secondary for $17.95, that way you won't get charged a fee for the CableCard.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Tue, 14 May 2013 20:23:21 EDT

rendrenner posted :

said by BiggA:

No. The "HD Technology Fee" is a box fee, applied once per account. For example, the DVR is $7.95 as the first box, on top of an HD technology fee. The next box would have a $10/mo outlet fee, if it's a DVR, another $7.95, etc. The people at the Comcast have explained to me how it works, and I don't pay the "HD Technology Fee" because I don't have any of their HD technology. I have my own.

But all those other boxes would need the HD code on the outlet to make it work. You are correct that the DVR includes the HD fee. You are also correct that the next box would have a $10/ mo outlet fee.
If that box is an HD box and it does not have the HD code on it then no HD for you even though you have it on the DVR. The fee does cover the entire account, but the outlet needs to know its authorized for HD.

Beach is saying the same thing. Even though the OP has a DVR and is paying the HD fee, the outlet that the cable card is on still needs the rate code to authorize the channels.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV 6 Released

Tue, 14 May 2013 20:00:03 EDT

SpHeRe31459 posted :

said by BiggA:

The problem is, while the hardware is amazing, there's no good software to go with it. MCE is a buggy mess with a poor UI/UX.

Say what? I dunno what you've been using, but I quite successfully used a media center PC in years past in MCE 2005 (XP), Vista and Win 7 flavors.

Media Center's actually a pretty decent UI. It's what U-verse's Mediaroom UI is derived from too.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV 6 Released

Tue, 14 May 2013 18:18:53 EDT

BiggA posted : The problem is, while the hardware is amazing, there's no good software to go with it. MCE is a buggy mess with a poor UI/UX.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV 6 Released

Tue, 14 May 2013 13:38:01 EDT

SpHeRe31459 posted : Yep saw that news yesterday but didn't post it here. After all I can't deprive you of your livelihood telcodad ;)

I gotta say if the future of Media Center weren't so uncertain, and if you had or didn't mind building a nice quiet media center PC this new Ceton trumps just about any standalone DVR you can get.

[Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV 6 Released

Tue, 14 May 2013 11:01:16 EDT

telcodad posted : FYI - Ceton just released their new "InfiniTV 6" models of CableCARD devices for Media Center PCs:

Ceton Introduces World’s Most Advanced Digital Cable Tuners for the PC
New Ceton InfiniTV 6 Models support six simultaneous channels with a single CableCARD and are available in Ethernet-attached network tuner and PCI Express Form Factors
PR Web - May 13, 2013
»www.prweb.com/releases/CetonInfi···=4003003

Also see: »cetoncorp.com/products/infinitv/

and:

Ceton Boosts CableCARDs
By Mari Silbey, Light Reading Cable - May 14, 2013
»www.lightreading.com/content-pro···40154837

EDIT: Also videos on YouTube:

"Ceton InfiniTV 6 ETH Hardware Set-Up Walk-Through": »www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl···UV0EMg1o

"Ceton InfiniTV Software & Windows Media Center Setup Walk-Through": »www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl···wijtYEjA

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Thu, 21 Feb 2013 08:27:16 EDT

GTFan posted :

said by beachintech:

If you pay for the HD ones, they are ;)

And I don't pay extra, and they are included (I also don't have any of their HD boxes). What you say is not true in all Comcast areas.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Wed, 20 Feb 2013 18:25:46 EDT

BiggA posted : They included in my plan for free. Like I said, I only have to pay if I rent their HD equipment. Since I own my HD equipment, I don't pay extra.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Wed, 20 Feb 2013 18:25:40 EDT

beachintech posted : If you pay for the HD ones, they are ;)

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Wed, 20 Feb 2013 14:35:18 EDT

GTFan posted : Whatever they call it, it's a BS fee because HD channels are supposed to be included with a digital package.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 22:23:30 EDT

BiggA posted : We have the "HD Technology Fee". You must have something different ("HD Access Fee")?

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:29:25 EDT

halfband posted : In my area the HD applies to get HD enabled on your account, and has nothing to do with the boxes or equipment you have. No HD fee, not HD. Even an account with only TIVOs require the fee to get HD.
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Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:06:15 EDT

BiggA posted : No. The "HD Technology Fee" is a box fee, applied once per account. For example, the DVR is $7.95 as the first box, on top of an HD technology fee. The next box would have a $10/mo outlet fee, if it's a DVR, another $7.95, etc. The people at the Comcast have explained to me how it works, and I don't pay the "HD Technology Fee" because I don't have any of their HD technology. I have my own.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:54:23 EDT

beachintech posted : I wouldn't rock the bot there BiggA, you should be paying an "HD Access Fee" to have HD anything on your account ;)

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:28:27 EDT

BiggA posted : That's a problem then, and they should call customer service, as that's not how it's supposed to work. I don't pay it, and I get tons of HD on my MCE machine.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Sun, 17 Feb 2013 10:43:48 EDT

GTFan posted : Except that multiple folks over at TCF have reported that if they don't have the bogus HD tech fee on their account, they don't get HD channels on their Tivos.

Fortunately I am not in one of those areas, and I agree that if you don't have one of their boxes you shouldn't have the fee. But it does seem to be required for the unlucky areas.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Sat, 16 Feb 2013 22:26:22 EDT

BiggA posted : I don't know what weird package you have, but with current packages, the "HD technology fee" is a box fee that is applied once per account, hence if you don't have any HD boxes from Comcast, you won't pay it AND you will get the HD channels on your MCE box or TiVo.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:33:57 EDT

Sword7 posted :

said by SpHeRe31459:

said by Sword7:

said by beachintech:

Make sure your cable card has those same codes on it as your DVR.

I checked Ceton for some channels and found out that all channels except local channels are set as CCI 0x02 (copy once). I will need to look into my HD DVR box to check CCI flag settings. How do I check them on HD DVR box? If I find same codes on HD DVR, I will have to contact corporate about that. Thanks again.

If you have Motorola hardware:
»en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_to_use···_Enabled

Ok, I checked DCH3416 DVR manual for channel status. I got info from channel 75 and channel 236 by press SELECT and select 'd06 channel status'. Both CCI flags were set to 0x00 (copy free).

I think that a problem issue is CableCARD card. I have same problem when I tried HDHomeRun Prime. I took it off old device and put it on my new Ceton. I got the same problem on both devices.

Thanks again.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:22:52 EDT

SpHeRe31459 posted :

said by Sword7:

said by beachintech:

Make sure your cable card has those same codes on it as your DVR.

If you have Motorola hardware:
»en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_to_use···_Enabled

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:21:17 EDT

SpHeRe31459 posted :

said by Sword7:

I am using Windows Media Center to able watch channels with any CCI flag settings.

Right... which is why Copy Once isn't a problem for you...

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:43:37 EDT

Sword7 posted :

said by beachintech:

Make sure your cable card has those same codes on it as your DVR.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:14:10 EDT

Sword7 posted : I am using Windows Media Center to able watch channels with any CCI flag settings. With MythTV and other TV apps, channels are only watchable when CCI flag is 0x00 (Copy freely).

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:12:49 EDT

beachintech posted : Make sure your cable card has those same codes on it as your DVR.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:10:44 EDT

Sword7 posted : Ok, thanks for some replies. I have HD DVR package and was able see channel 236 but not on my Ceton. I will contact Comcast to change TV package to make sure includes HD technology subscription.

Also, I need to contact corporate to fix CCI flag settings because they are messed up. How do I contact corporate?

Thanks.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:27:22 EDT

beachintech posted :

said by Sword7:

I have old VIP Plus package.

I would bet you are not paying the HD access fee, which is causing at least one of your problems.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:20:54 EDT

SpHeRe31459 posted : Definitely odd about the CCI flag being set to Copy Once, but CCI 0x02 should still allow a DVR recording, no?

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Mon, 04 Feb 2013 12:57:13 EDT

GTFan posted :

said by Sword7:

However, I noticed that CCI flag was 0x02 (Copy once). However I remember that Comcast's policy are all channels as copy-free except premium channels (HBO, MAX, etc.). Most channels are useless to other apps than Windows Media Center. :(

Yep if it's CCI-protected your local is screwing up the flags, you might have to contact corporate about that.

You could have two issues that I can think of - either your card is not properly paired (if it's a Moto card, the Data ID has to match what's in Comcast's system for protected content), or you have installed something on your PC that changed the codecs used by WMC (shark pack, later versions of uTorrent etc.). Codec issues can cause the sub required message to pop up for protected content.

To check pairing call the Cablecard support line at 877-405-2298.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 23:57:34 EDT

Joe12345678 posted : do you have a HD fee? on your bill?

You may need the HD fee to get HD channels other then the locals

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 17:47:36 EDT

Sword7 posted : I have old VIP Plus package.

Re: [Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 15:49:48 EDT

beachintech posted : What TV package do you pay for?

[Cable Card] Ceton InfiniTV and some channel problems.

Sun, 03 Feb 2013 14:53:46 EDT

Sword7 posted : Hello folks,

I got new Ceton InfiniTV 4 USB package last year and set it up today. I contacted Comcast and they successfully paired CableCARD M-card and can see my Ceton device. Then I set Windows Media Center up but have problems with some channels.

When I tuned into channel 236 (Science Fiction HD channel), I got blank screen for a few seconds then Subscription required displayed. I was able watch SD version (channel 75). With Cable TV box, I was able watch same channel. I checked channel status and got info:

Signal Level: 3.2 dBmv
S/N ratio: 37.6 dB

Then I tuned back to channel 75 and got info:

Signal Level: 6.8 dBmv
S/N ratio: 38.3 dB

However, I noticed that CCI flag was 0x02 (Copy once). However I remember that Comcast's policy are all channels as copy-free except premium channels (HBO, MAX, etc.). Most channels are useless to other apps than Windows Media Center. :(

Does anyone have any solutions?