Topic '[Internet] New 50/10/175 FTTN plan' in forum 'Bell Canada' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27975400 en Mon, 20 May 2013 15:52:16 EDT Mon, 20 May 2013 15:52:16 EDT Re: [Internet] New 50/10/175 FTTN plan http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27989275 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27989275 Thu, 07 Feb 2013 16:42:03 EDT Re: [Internet] New 50/10/175 FTTN plan http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27984386
50 with IPTV is not. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27984386 Wed, 06 Feb 2013 10:33:58 EDT Re: [Internet] New 50/10/175 FTTN plan http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27984351 said by kovy:

I think the card itself is not 17a compatible...

Correct]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27984351 Wed, 06 Feb 2013 10:27:04 EDT Re: [Internet] New 50/10/175 FTTN plan http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27981641 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27981641 Tue, 05 Feb 2013 14:43:57 EDT Re: [Internet] New 50/10/175 FTTN plan http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27980968 --
Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27980968 Tue, 05 Feb 2013 11:50:48 EDT Re: [Internet] New 50/10/175 FTTN plan http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27977979 said by squircle:

said by kovy:

Some JWI have both if lucky.

But I'm pretty sure they will offer or offer 50/10 on Stingers... the profile is there.

I've noticed a lot of downtown Toronto JWIs have both during my strolls, but only 1/17 JWIs around here (NW Oakville) have a 7330 (and it's not the one I'm on, unfortunately). Is there realistically any chance of Bell switching the Stingers to 17a? I know they've had enough problems with them already; is the Ikanos chipset reliable enough to do 17a?

I think the card itself is not 17a compatible... but either way, the profiles is there on 12a. So I don't see why they would block it if the customer is near the SLAM.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27977979 Mon, 04 Feb 2013 14:07:33 EDT Re: [Internet] New 50/10/175 FTTN plan http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27977634 said by kovy:

Some JWI have both if lucky.

But I'm pretty sure they will offer or offer 50/10 on Stingers... the profile is there.

I've noticed a lot of downtown Toronto JWIs have both during my strolls, but only 1/17 JWIs around here (NW Oakville) have a 7330 (and it's not the one I'm on, unfortunately). Is there realistically any chance of Bell switching the Stingers to 17a? I know they've had enough problems with them already; is the Ikanos chipset reliable enough to do 17a?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27977634 Mon, 04 Feb 2013 12:31:49 EDT Re: [Internet] New 50/10/175 FTTN plan http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27977624 said by praytorian00:

I'm connected to the Alcatel Lucent 7130, able to get 50/10.

There is no 7130 DSLAM. You're probably thinking of the ALU 7130 Cellpipe modem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27977624 Mon, 04 Feb 2013 12:29:15 EDT Re: [Internet] New 50/10/175 FTTN plan http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27977425
But I'm pretty sure they will offer or offer 50/10 on Stingers... the profile is there.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27977425 Mon, 04 Feb 2013 11:31:46 EDT Re: [Internet] New 50/10/175 FTTN plan http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27977208 said by squircle:

This is also the reason 50/10 is only offered in very specific areas. Even though I'm 60m loop length from my JWI, I can't get 50/10 because I am served by an old Lucent Stinger DSLAM and not the newer Alcatel-Lucent 7330 DSLAM.

I'm connected to the Alcatel Lucent 7130, able to get 50/10.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27977208 Mon, 04 Feb 2013 10:23:11 EDT Re: [Internet] New 50/10/175 FTTN plan http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27976072
In case you ask the question "why couldn't they use 12a for both", it's that these maximum downstream values could only realistically be experienced with extremely short cable lengths; more spectrum is needed to deliver the higher speeds over longer distances.

This is also the reason 50/10 is only offered in very specific areas. Even though I'm 60m loop length from my JWI, I can't get 50/10 because I am served by an old Lucent Stinger DSLAM and not the newer Alcatel-Lucent 7330 DSLAM.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27976072 Sun, 03 Feb 2013 21:05:31 EDT [Internet] New 50/10/175 FTTN plan http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27975400 50/10/175 FTTN plan use the exact same technology as the older 25/10 plan?

Would it use the same VDSL modem as 25/10 (with mandatory rental from Bell)?

If 25M DL works at a location, should 50M work, or might the line condition still restrict the DL speed to less than 50M?

Pricing Details, and FEATURES tab mention minimum speeds... "Actual speeds will vary depending on the distance between the customer’s modem and switching equipment from Bell : min. 46 Mbps and max. 50 Mbps down speeds; Min. 9 Mbps and max.10 Mbps up speeds."

Pretty good 'Minimum' speeds there, but the Overview and Specifications sections do not specify any minimum figures. Confusing website specs, as usual.

Just wondering about the technical aspects of this new plan; not the "value"!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Internet-New-5010175-FTTN-plan-27975400 Sun, 03 Feb 2013 17:15:14 EDT