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dirtyjeffer0
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Re: Iran Built A Fighter Jet---Why Can't Canada?

i'm not denying the T50, which is really just the prototype of the FA is likely a very good aircraft.

it was more about his "facts"...cost, the fact the FA is also "non-existent yet" (like the F35, still in prototype phase with official launch date expected to be in about 4 years) and his comment about not being able to "fight at supersonic speeds" (like dogfighting is still a likely A-A style of combat, which it isn't)...i won't bother going into details, as some of it has already been done already, but my point stands.

FaxCap
join:2002-05-25
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said by dirtyjeffer0:

and his comment about not being able to "fight at supersonic speeds" (like dogfighting is still a likely A-A style of combat, which it isn't)

You don't dogfight at supersonic speeds. What he means....what I
mean what others mean by fighting at supersonic speeds is you are
vectored or your radar gets you quickly close enough to use a
standoff air to air then you leave your enemy's weapons radius faster
than your enemy can fly toward you. The F-35 seems to only have a
"dash" supersonic ability.

FaxCap

dirtyjeffer0
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dirtyjeffer0

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said by FaxCap:
You don't dogfight at supersonic speeds.
oh, you don't need to tell me that, i already know that.
quote:
What he means....what I
mean what others mean by fighting at supersonic speeds is you are
vectored or your radar gets you quickly close enough to use a
standoff air to air then you leave your enemy's weapons radius faster
than your enemy can fly toward you. The F-35 seems to only have a
"dash" supersonic ability.

FaxCap

you got links for that?...it is hard to really tell how an F35 and an FA would "fight each other" in A-A combat, since neither jet is actually "available" and the amount of factual information on both is limited at best.

it will all come down to avionics, stealth ability and weapons systems, all of which the F35 has state of the art...the FA (i would imagine) would too, but i can't be sure, nor would i make a sweeping generalized statement about the FA shooting F35's out of the sky with ease...it's nonsense to say such a thing.
funny0
join:2010-12-22

funny0

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said by dirtyjeffer0:

said by FaxCap:
You don't dogfight at supersonic speeds.
oh, you don't need to tell me that, i already know that.
quote:
What he means....what I
mean what others mean by fighting at supersonic speeds is you are
vectored or your radar gets you quickly close enough to use a
standoff air to air then you leave your enemy's weapons radius faster
than your enemy can fly toward you. The F-35 seems to only have a
"dash" supersonic ability.

FaxCap

you got links for that?...it is hard to really tell how an F35 and an FA would "fight each other" in A-A combat, since neither jet is actually "available" and the amount of factual information on both is limited at best.

it will all come down to avionics, stealth ability and weapons systems, all of which the F35 has state of the art...the FA (i would imagine) would too, but i can't be sure, nor would i make a sweeping generalized statement about the FA shooting F35's out of the sky with ease...it's nonsense to say such a thing.

ya you dont need to dog fight at mach 4
ill zip in fire off a few and be gone while your pulling your wire
and have tagged 4 of ya befor eyou realize your on candid camera

your talking aobut intercepting
this is ME zipping in at 2800 MPH fireing off then running away

GOT YA nanannana
oh where am i and your at 700 mph ROFL
funny as my nick says
you go on thinking you need to dog fight
funny0

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said by FaxCap:

said by dirtyjeffer0:

and his comment about not being able to "fight at supersonic speeds" (like dogfighting is still a likely A-A style of combat, which it isn't)

You don't dogfight at supersonic speeds. What he means....what I
mean what others mean by fighting at supersonic speeds is you are
vectored or your radar gets you quickly close enough to use a
standoff air to air then you leave your enemy's weapons radius faster
than your enemy can fly toward you. The F-35 seems to only have a
"dash" supersonic ability.

FaxCap

everyones dumping the f35
FOR other jets heck india is buying up 200 of the russian t-50's
with other nations totalling 600 orders
you might want to evaluate your americans screwups and lack of ability to do the job how long they been working at it?
Expand your moderator at work

dirtyjeffer0
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Re: Iran Built A Fighter Jet---Why Can't Canada?

funny, quit posting nonsense.

"Though the T-50 tops out at 1300 mph compared to the F-35's 1200 mph, the American fighter can launch its internal missiles and smart-bombs while flying faster than the speed of sound."

Read more: »www.businessinsider.com/ ··· KYwvB2HZ