 DKSDamn Kidney StonesPremium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
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Re: Family of smokers very expensive for Sunwing flight said by fast4ward:Airline overacted. Really no need to divert. They should have continued and just fined them heavily.
Perfect storm. Idiot, combative passengers forced the landing then the flight crew bumped up on the Hours of Service law, requiring a 12 hour rest before continuing; shorter than it would have taken to find a fly a new crew in from Toronto.
As aircraft are now all non-smoking and their ventilation systems are tuned that way (and aircraft are highly tuned systems), a mechanic from the airline had to be brought in to check for damage. And because the perps were uncooperative, the plane had to be searched for other contraband.
I hope charges are laid and the arrogant idiots who did it are on the No Fly list for a long time.
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join:2003-03-26
canada | reply to fast4ward
said by fast4ward:Airline overacted. Really no need to divert. They should have continued and just fined them heavily.
Well, since they wouldn't disclose what they did with the butt's, or if there was more smokes onboard; the airline didn't have much option...
A fire, even a smoldering one, at altitude, rarely ends well for anyone on board... |
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said by DKS:I hope charges are laid and the arrogant idiots who did it are on the No Fly list for a long time.
Something I hadn't considered. 100% on side with this idea. Plus financial penalties to compensate all parties.
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Continental (United) ? |
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 corsterPremium
join:2002-02-23
Gatineau, QC
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said by Gone:The A320 on the flight there was also a hell of a lot quieter in the cabin than the 737-800 on the way back, too. That, and they provided us with free movies and TV on the A320, whereas on the 737 we got... to pay $8 for Direct TV. Wonderful.
The joys of flying a post-merger airline (assuming United-Continental?) |
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 AnavSarcastic Llama? Naw, Just AcerbicPremium
join:2001-07-16
Dartmouth, NS
kudos:3 | reply to fast4ward
said by fast4ward:Airline overacted. Really no need to divert. They should have continued and just fined them heavily.
I believe Canadian regulations made it necessary to land at the nearest airport. Personally I would not have landed when dropping (literally) them off over Bermuda. 
Cigarettes or cigarettes butts were not accounted for and thus pose a potential hazard and thus by refusing to state what they had done with them, only complicated matters and in of itself is a flight hazard.
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| On board smouldering fire would get out of hand quick. I do know there is fire suppression systems in aircraft lavatories as a result of 797 and other mishaps.
However the captain would divert, no one wants to deal with a fire when there is nothing but water below.
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join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
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said by corster:The joys of flying a post-merger airline (assuming United-Continental?) Ding ding ding ding.
To quote my father-in-law, "Never again." |
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Jetblue, Southwest, Virgin Atlantic, Westjet
Never again
AC, American, United, Transat |
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GonePremium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
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| Southwest has dicked my FIL a few times in the past, but next year when I head south I'll pay more for a direct Southwest BUF-LAS flight rather than the ordeal that was United on the way back.
I didn't even mention how we got stuck on the tarmac in Newark for an hour packed into a sardine can Embraer 145 because someone overfilled the plane and it needed to be drained.  |
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| I flew the SW BUF-LAS this last summer. Packed flight but no interruptions, I don't expect frills on SW just prompt efficient service.
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 FaxCap
join:2002-05-25
Surrey, BC
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said by I_H8_Spam:Never again
AC, American, United, Transat I hear so many people say that about Transat yet I have flown them
at least 6-8 times and never had a problem.
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 SteveI know your IP addressConsultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
kudos:5 | reply to fast4ward
said by fast4ward:Airline overacted. Really no need to divert. Canadian air transport regulations required that they divert (at least the article said).
Note the same as a pilot making his own call. |
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said by FaxCap:said by I_H8_Spam:Never again
AC, American, United, Transat I hear so many people say that about Transat yet I have flown them at least 6-8 times and never had a problem. FaxCap Twice over the pond,
'99 - First delayed for hours at Gatwick as we were returned to gate for an computer error.
'05 - Delayed, then an incredible hot flight for hours, felt really stuffy, hostess was quite snippy on being asked for water. Effected about 20 rows in the middle of the plane, landed in YYZ finally fully drenched in sweat.
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The flight crew could not locate the cigarette butts in the washroom and the offenders were not willing to cooperate. Were the butts smoldering in the waste bin? The crew made the right decision by diverting to Bermuda.
In situations such as this, Canadian transport regulations requires the aircraft to land at the nearest available airport, which happened to be Bermuda. |
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corsterPremium
join:2002-02-23
Gatineau, QC Reviews:
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It's far too easy to have a bad experience with an airline.
They're generally all the same... I go by price first and foremost, i'll pay a slight premium for an airline with larger seat pitch or for a direct flight, or for a southern connection point during winter... last consideration on my list is which airline flies the plane.
Domestically, I generally fly WestJet - their customer service is better than AC, but I can't tell you how many times my YOW-YYZ flights have been delayed when the Air Canada flights get out on time. Now I will book Air Canada on this route instead if the price is similar.
Only perk of flying WestJet on YOW-YYZ is the 50% off coupons you get automatically if your flight is more than 30 minutes late. I have quite a collection of them now  |
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| Should have learned the old smoker's trick and brought 2 patches each - one for the trip out, one for the trip back |
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1 edit | Couldn't agree more. I use the gum, and it works perfect, short haul, long haul etc. I love smoking, what can I say, but, when I cannot, and I just have that craving, the gum works awesome.
However, what do I know, I am a conscious of others smoker. I don't smoke around people, who aren't smoking, I don't throw my filter on the ground, I field strip it, and toss it in the garbage. |
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On top of fines and flight bans they should be forced to successfully complete a smoking cessation and report to a parole officer for next two years to monitor. |
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AnavSarcastic Llama? Naw, Just AcerbicPremium
join:2001-07-16
Dartmouth, NS
kudos:3 | said by fast4ward:On top of fines and flight bans they should be forced to successfully complete a smoking cessation and report to a parole officer for next two years to monitor.
Your not going far enough. I think they should be forced to answer the question of if they will plan on smoking in the car when their 20 years son/daughter is in the car (and the 20 year old as well). If the lie detector confirms they will, then the 20 year old is sterilized. Damn our Charter, not allowed to be proactive on anything. 
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