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Gone
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reply to donoreo

Re: Family of smokers very expensive for Sunwing flight

said by donoreo:

Stupid addicts, they really could not wait longer? All of them? These people were obviously assholes before they got on the plane.

If alcohol was involved, it can turn a mild jerk into a very big asshole very quickly.


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There might be some sympathy for them if it was just one infraction. Guy couldn't resist, weak will, started smoking. All the belligerence and non-cooperation afterwards (like refusing to say where they put the butts) eliminates any sympathy entirely.
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said by Guspaz:

There might be some sympathy for them if it was just one infraction. Guy couldn't resist, weak will, started smoking. All the belligerence and non-cooperation afterwards (like refusing to say where they put the butts) eliminates any sympathy entirely.

Perhaps from some, but I doubt the sympathy would be widespread. If someone smokes so much that they can't go ~5 hours (time through security and on flight) without a cigarette, they shouldn't be putting themselves in that situation. They could have slapped on a patch or taken some gum/spray to get a nicotine hit if they were that addicted, but they didn't.

To me, this isn't about "couldn't resist, weak will", it's about the arrogant MFFY (Me First, F*** You) attitude of people who decide they're going to do what they want even though they've been told it's wrong because they just don't care about anyone other than themselves.
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FaxCap

join:2002-05-25
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reply to jaberi

I hope Sunwing sues and wins. These idiots deserve to pay for all the
trouble they caused.

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horsey

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reply to vue666

said by vue666:

Sunwing is considering legal action against these smokers...

»www.news957.com/2013/02/04/sunwi···-flight/

From link ...the smoking charges were drooped. So now we have 3 Capers Behaving badly on an air plane?


donoreo
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reply to Kardinal

said by Kardinal:

said by Guspaz:

There might be some sympathy for them if it was just one infraction. Guy couldn't resist, weak will, started smoking. All the belligerence and non-cooperation afterwards (like refusing to say where they put the butts) eliminates any sympathy entirely.

Perhaps from some, but I doubt the sympathy would be widespread. If someone smokes so much that they can't go ~5 hours (time through security and on flight) without a cigarette, they shouldn't be putting themselves in that situation. They could have slapped on a patch or taken some gum/spray to get a nicotine hit if they were that addicted, but they didn't.

To me, this isn't about "couldn't resist, weak will", it's about the arrogant MFFY (Me First, F*** You) attitude of people who decide they're going to do what they want even though they've been told it's wrong because they just don't care about anyone other than themselves.

That is exactly what is it, MFFY. Will they learn a lesson? Not likely.
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Last Parade

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reply to Gone

said by Gone:

Southwest has dicked my FIL a few times in the past, but next year when I head south I'll pay more for a direct Southwest BUF-LAS flight rather than the ordeal that was United on the way back.

I didn't even mention how we got stuck on the tarmac in Newark for an hour packed into a sardine can Embraer 145 because someone overfilled the plane and it needed to be drained.

I hate anything Embraer with a passion. When they load me onto a Bombardier jet I feel like I'm in heaven by comparison.


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said by Last Parade:

said by Gone:

Southwest has dicked my FIL a few times in the past, but next year when I head south I'll pay more for a direct Southwest BUF-LAS flight rather than the ordeal that was United on the way back.

I didn't even mention how we got stuck on the tarmac in Newark for an hour packed into a sardine can Embraer 145 because someone overfilled the plane and it needed to be drained.

I hate anything Embraer with a passion. When they load me onto a Bombardier jet I feel like I'm in heaven by comparison.

What's wrong with Embraer? It's a respectable company, such that even Air Canada has them as regional airplane commuters.


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said by Last Parade:

I hate anything Embraer with a passion. When they load me onto a Bombardier jet I feel like I'm in heaven by comparison.

I suspect that the experience on an Embraer 17x/19x is a *lot* better than on a ERJ.

It's funny you say this though, because I have a friend who feels the complete opposite and hates CRJs with a passion.


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said by Gone:

said by Last Parade:

I hate anything Embraer with a passion. When they load me onto a Bombardier jet I feel like I'm in heaven by comparison.

I suspect that the experience on an Embraer 17x/19x is a *lot* better than on a ERJ.

It's funny you say this though, because I have a friend who feels the complete opposite and hates CRJs with a passion.

I've enjoyed flights on AC's Embraer jets (I think I was on a 175, but I can't be sure), and as for CRJs it depends on who the carrier is. I didn't mind the AC ones I've been on, but the seats on a United-liveried aircraft were just brutal...to the point where I wasn't sure I'd be able to stand after the flight. Fortunately, I had a long walk at O'Hare to catch my connecting flight to work out the backache.
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corster
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My flight to Indianapolis this May consists of.... CRJ 200 from Ottawa to O'Hare, and then an ERJ 145 from O'Hare to Indy.... Not looking forward to it.



Gone
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You poor bastard. To say that an ERJ 145 is cramped is an understatement.


jaberi

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so none of the 3 were charged with smoking aboard the aircraft...that was quick....are these charges from bermuda authorities, or otherwise?
will they not have to go to court in canada?

sunwing has them on the no fly list, can other airlines follow suit and put them on the no fly list?


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You guys won't fly certain airlines..

My dad won't fly unless it's certain planes, ie ones he personally did all the electrical work on. :P
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nitzguy
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reply to corster

said by corster:

My flight to Indianapolis this May consists of.... CRJ from Ottawa to O'Hare, and then an ERJ 145 from O'Hare to Indy.... Not looking forward to it.

Drive? Rent a car from ORD? My friend google maps says its only about 3 hours from ORD to Indy....


Thingamajig
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reply to jaberi

The comments had me in tears...
»news.nationalpost.com/2013/02/05···acneils/
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corster
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reply to nitzguy

said by nitzguy:

said by corster:

My flight to Indianapolis this May consists of.... CRJ 200 from Ottawa to O'Hare, and then an ERJ 145 from O'Hare to Indy.... Not looking forward to it.

Drive? Rent a car from ORD? My friend google maps says its only about 3 hours from ORD to Indy....

I don't care how uncomfortable a plane is... a 1 hour flight on a CRJ/ERJ is still better than 3 hours in a cramped rental car.

Besides, a flight to ORD would have cost me the same amount.

jaberi

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"The MacNeils are en route back to Canada and have told reporters they will share their side of the story. Good news, too. Because some folks in Nova Scotia are dying to hear it."

»thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia···the-town



capdjq
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Click for full size
This would have solved all the problems and saved diverting the aircraft.
»www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article···ash.html


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said by capdjq:

This would have solved all the problems and saved diverting the aircraft.
»www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article···ash.html

Considering the price of booze in Iceland, the fact that he chugged back his duty-free booze and that he couldn't handle it doesn't surprise me one bit
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said by jaberi:

"The MacNeils are en route back to Canada and have told reporters they will share their side of the story. Good news, too. Because some folks in Nova Scotia are dying to hear it."

"We really needed a smoke" ??

How can anyone have another side of the story.


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said by urbanriot:

"We really needed a smoke" ??

How can anyone have another side of the story.

They'll say they were allowed to smoke & swear under the People's Freedom of Choices and Voices Act.


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said by urbanriot:

"We really needed a smoke" ??

How can anyone have another side of the story.

As long as you don't inhale, it ain't adultery


I_H8_Spam

join:2004-03-10
St Catharines, ON

The family is claiming they didn't smoke on the flight. So was there a statement of a cigarette butt being found from the Airline?



milnoc

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Weren't three family members caught in the same bathroom where the smoke was emanating from?



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said by milnoc:

Weren't three family members caught in the same bathroom where the smoke was emanating from?

said by the fam :

We weren't smoking, honest! We were having a threeway!