 DraimanLet me see those devil horns in the sky
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Kill Devil Hills, NC
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Re: Some pre-purchase renovation questions said by Dodge:What if the property itself is fenced in? Do you still need another fence around the pool?
You still need a pool fence. A yard fence doesn't do anything for the pool.
"The Association of Pool & Spa Professionals has developed a model barrier code for residential swimming pools, spas, and hot tubs; this code has been approved by the American National Standards Institute.
B.O.C.A. pool safety standards:
The International Code Council (I.C.C.), more often known by their former name, the Building Officials and Code Administrators (B.O.C.A.), outline strong safety standards for swimming pool fences. In an effort to eliminate or reduce the accidental drowning of children, these standards have been recognized by many communities throughout the world.
Here are the highlights of the B.O.C.A./I.C.C. pool safety standards:
1. The fence must be a minimum of 48" tall (or taller, depending on distance between horizontal rails).
2. The middle horizontal rail must be at least 45" above the bottom horizontal rail (to prevent using the horizontal rails as a kind of ladder for climbing).
3. The spacing between pickets must be less than 4".
4. If space between pickets is less than 13â„4, rule #2 does not apply and fence does not have to be taller than 48 (because the tighter picket spacing has made climbing much more difficult).
5. The space between the bottom horizontal rail and the ground must be less than 2".
6. The gate(s) must be self-closing and self-latching.
7. The gate(s) need to open outward (away from the pool area).
8. The operating mechanism of the latch must be at least 54" from the bottom of the gate or it shall be on the pool side of the gate at least 3 inches below the top AND shall not have any opening greater than 1/2 inch within 18 inches of the release mechanism."
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DodgePremium
join:2002-11-27 | reply to Dodge
Great, now I am afraid of pools  |
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| I'm very much considering installing an in-ground pool with my (hopefully soon) new house build. Yes, there's maintenance, yes, there are future repairs, but there are great benefits, too (assuming you like to swim). Great way to keep active and an excuse to have people come over, bring the kids and just relax with a beverage. |
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robbinPremium,MVM
join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX
kudos:1 | reply to Dodge
said by Dodge:What if the property itself is fenced in? Do you still need another fence around the pool?
Check with your local code department. |
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DraimanLet me see those devil horns in the sky
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said by Dodge:Great, now I am afraid of pools
Pools are great IF you use them. Normally you use them for the first year or two then it sits there to be used maybe once a year. I ran out of fingers and toes to count the number of people I know whom have a pool and never use it anymore.
My neighbor threw a party last year when a tree felt on his pool and cracked it. It was a total loss and the insurance company cut him a check to completely replace it. This year he's using the money to remove it and the rest is going into his 57' Chevy.
The biggest thing I'd stress is you eliminate 50% of all buyers if you own a pool. People are split right down the middle on liking or hating a pool.
On the other hand a SPA is a fraction of the work and they tend to get used a lot. You can use those year round everywhere! We'll be buying a spa soon as the deck is done this Summer.
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Columbia, SC
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Seems like the only people who like pools are the ones who don't have one.
The pool part of this thread should be made a sticky, it not for anything it will give me some ammunition for when the wife says that we NEED a pool.
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DraimanLet me see those devil horns in the sky
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If anything buy a house without a pool. Next go onto Craigslist and find one of a dozen FREE above ground pools people are giving away. Go get it and use it until you get sick of it then turn around and give it away on free Craigslist. 
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 CylonRedPremium,MVM
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Bloom County | reply to robbin
said by robbin:said by Dodge:What if the property itself is fenced in? Do you still need another fence around the pool?
Check with your local code department. Bingo - requirements for a fence all depends on the locality. My dad has an inground pool and he does not need a fence by code. It is far enough off the road there is no requirement for a fence. His insurance does not break the bank either.
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Onion, NJ
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said by Dodge:I was looking at a house over this weekend, and it seems like it may be a good deal, however it does require some work which I am not sure how hard / doable it is:
- recessed lights take forever to warm up (I'd say 20 minutes to full brightness), the realtor said it's not too big / not too expensive thing to replace, but my question is when replacing recessed lighting, is it direct replacement, or the ceiling has to be modified for each light?
- the house was built in late 60s so some of the doors are rather narrow. Especially the bathroom doors. Is it a huge pain to replace the doors / frames to make them wider?
- What are IG Pool maintenance costs? It's concrete and heated. I know they will vary by area, but rough idea what it takes to run it / maintain it?
what did your Engineer / Inspector say?
do not trust the agent
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join:2002-11-27 | said by AVD:said by Dodge:I was looking at a house over this weekend, and it seems like it may be a good deal, however it does require some work which I am not sure how hard / doable it is:
- recessed lights take forever to warm up (I'd say 20 minutes to full brightness), the realtor said it's not too big / not too expensive thing to replace, but my question is when replacing recessed lighting, is it direct replacement, or the ceiling has to be modified for each light?
- the house was built in late 60s so some of the doors are rather narrow. Especially the bathroom doors. Is it a huge pain to replace the doors / frames to make them wider?
- What are IG Pool maintenance costs? It's concrete and heated. I know they will vary by area, but rough idea what it takes to run it / maintain it?
what did your Engineer / Inspector say? do not trust the agent I am not going to get an engineer until I put in an offer on the house. I am still in the agonizing stage of "do I or don't I". |
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| Also look at insurance premium for house with pool. Might need larger coverage amount. Pools factor in as risk calculation.
And insurance premium will depend on region (are you in the South or North...north is more costly than south...)
Do check with local codes. Neighborhood near me, houses had IG pools. After one was sold, a fence was put around the pool apron with a self-latching / locking gate. There was a yard fence already, but that won't stop someone in the yard (infant, toddler, drunk guest...) from falling in. The liability of being sued is raised with a pool...
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