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podstolom

join:2010-01-25
Wichita, KS

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Re: no prepaid on lte?

Because LTE is verizon's PREMIUM network, so they don't want the prepaid demographic on it, since that demographic is often "credit-challenged." This way, their 3G network remains "monetized" (I hate that word) during the transition to LTE, since that network is already paid for and entails less risk by offering it as prepaid.

By 2021 the 3G spectrum is supposed to be refarmed to LTE or whatever else is in place by then.

Telco

join:2008-12-19
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·Callcentric

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That's precisely the assumption that allows these monopolistic carriers to get away with their rip-off pricing. That is, anyone who does not want to basically pay $90+ per month ($1.1K per year + handset every 2 years) is apparently "credit-challenged".

I could be worth $100 million yet I would still not pay $90+ for some shitty half-baked North American cell service. The pricing only serves to enrich the shareholders and c-level management, while they pay their workers peanuts and hire fools to provide useless CS.

decifal

join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
kudos:1
reply to podstolom
said by podstolom:

Because LTE is verizon's PREMIUM network, so they don't want the prepaid demographic on it, since that demographic is often "credit-challenged." This way, their 3G network remains "monetized" (I hate that word) during the transition to LTE, since that network is already paid for and entails less risk by offering it as prepaid.

By 2021 the 3G spectrum is supposed to be refarmed to LTE or whatever else is in place by then.

Too bad the prepaid prices are nearly that of their premium ones..

Seriously, cell companies have just gotten too damn greedy... I'm a step from just saying "screw it" an going back to a plain ol trek phone. If they decide to destroy that to force us to their more profitable plans, I think i'll just go amish on the phone world...


creditworthy

@cox.net
reply to podstolom
Among my circles of friends who are by no means credit challenged, most have figured out that I was the smart one years ago when I dumped Verizon and went with prepaid with another carrier. So I know lots of wealthy people who have done the math like I did years ago and figured they were getting soaked for a phone... Every time someone I know mentions how they are getting shafted I tell them what I did and what I spend and they are following in my footsteps.

I spend on average less than $10 per month with prepaid. When I travel I swap my SIM over to my Android and pay $2-3 per day to have unlimited voice, text and more data than my handset can eat in one day for the mobile apps I might want to use since I am away from home and a PC.

ke4pym
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join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC
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·ooma
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reply to decifal
said by decifal:

Seriously, cell companies have just gotten too damn greedy... I'm a step from just saying "screw it" an going back to a plain ol trek phone. If they decide to destroy that to force us to their more profitable plans, I think i'll just go amish on the phone world...

I'm giving this serious consideration as well. I just can't bring myself to pay $199 or $299 for a PHONE. Esp. after the crap I went through with my Thunderbolt and now this almost-as-crappy Razr.


Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT
reply to decifal
said by decifal:

I'm a step from just saying "screw it" an going back to a plain ol trek phone.

Already there. We switched to Straight Talk last year and never looked back. Their ST SIM card is definitely worth it.

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
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·Time Warner Cable
·Verizon Online DSL
·Comcast
reply to podstolom
What's funny is that, thanks to the iPad, you can still get LTE on prepaid. I wouldn't dream of signing a contract for $80+ per month with VZW, but I do like me some LTE.

My guess is that VZW will open up LTE to prepaid once they get AWS online. Right now they're having spectrum issues with LTE in some areas...apparently building a coverage-focused network when you should be building for capacity is a bad idea.


Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT
said by iansltx:

apparently building a coverage-focused network when you should be building for capacity is a bad idea.

Why? It works great for (some) ISP's. You might have the best coverage but if the speeds are the same as (at times) 2G, what's the point?


tphillips
Premium
join:2009-02-04
Apopka, FL
reply to Simba7
Ditto here. I moved to Virgin"Sprint" from Sprint and am loving the extra cash. I just could't do it anymore. My bill with my wife and three kids was pushing close to $300 per month. Now its $120 flat.


HotRodFoto
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join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO
Virgin here as well, love it! It's literally 1/3 of what I was paying.
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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
reply to Simba7
Building for a cell radius of five miles...heck, three miles...in an area where nearly every point in that radius is developed is a recipe for disaster even for 10x10 LTE. Guess what Verizon has done, to my knowledge...


anon anon

@charter.com
reply to decifal
said by decifal:

Too bad the prepaid prices are nearly that of their premium ones..

Seriously, cell companies have just gotten too damn greedy... I'm a step from just saying "screw it" an going back to a plain ol trek phone. If they decide to destroy that to force us to their more profitable plans, I think i'll just go amish on the phone world...

Verizon per-paid with 2 GB =$70
Verizon share Everything with 2 GB=$100

This is "almost the same"?

Any no one is forcing anyone to buy cell phone service. If Verizon is too pricy don't get it.