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jaberi

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Super Bowl contest winner denied entry to U.S.

A Vancouver Island man who won an all-expenses-paid trip to the Super Bowl in New Orleans has been refused entry into the U.S. because of a marijuana possession conviction dating back to 1981.

Victoria resident Myles Wilkinson won the trip in a fantasy football league contest, competing against nearly four million other players for the chance to attend the National Football League championship, featuring the Baltimore Ravens and the San Francisco 49ers.

»ca.news.yahoo.com/super-bowl-con···994.html


elwoodblues
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Anal Americans....

Oh he smoked dope and got caught, he might try to influence our citizens. ENTRY DENIED


jaberi

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he was convicted in vancouver was he not?



milnoc

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Nothing new here. Any criminal conviction, no matter how minor and/or how long ago, is grounds for denied entry into the United States. This has been standard policy for decades.

Why is anyone so surprised?
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resa1983
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He should've gotten a pardon years ago...
Then never spoken of his conviction again.

The US doesn't recognize our pardon system.. :\
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Law is the law. He's a criminal with a criminal conviction.

Maybe kids will read this story and learn that crime doesn't pay.

That is all.



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said by milnoc:

Nothing new here. Any criminal conviction, no matter how minor and/or how long ago, is grounds for denied entry into the United States. This has been standard policy for decades.

Why is anyone so surprised?

Canada is similar. The law matters.
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said by milnoc:

Why is anyone so surprised?

I was wondering the same... title of the thread left out "criminal record". That's pretty much a done deal for caring.


Mike2009

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Who cares?



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said by resa1983:

He should've gotten a pardon years ago...
Then never spoken of his conviction again.
The US doesn't recognize our pardon system.. :\

Exactly. Once you have a pardon the Americans will never find out you had a criminal conviction even if they run a check (and in turn, you can answer "no" if they ask you), but once the Americans find out and download the conviction to their own immigration database you're SOL even if you get a pardon later on. In other words, one should not travel to the US until the get a pardon.

This has become a big issue for older people who had convictions when they were young, crossed the border throughout their entire lives and then suddenly get called on it later in life. This isn't the first time I've seen this happen, and no doubt it won't be the last.


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said by DKS:

Canada is similar. The law matters.

It is far far easier to be admitted to Canada with an old (as in, ten year plus) record than it is to the United States.


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said by Gone:

said by resa1983:

He should've gotten a pardon years ago...
Then never spoken of his conviction again.
The US doesn't recognize our pardon system.. :\

Exactly. Once you have a pardon the Americans will never find out you had a criminal conviction even if they run a check (and in turn, you can answer "no" if they ask you), but once the Americans find out and download the conviction to their own immigration database you're SOL even if you get a pardon later on. In other words, one should not travel to the US until the get a pardon.

This has become a big issue for older people who had convictions when they were young, crossed the border throughout their entire lives and then suddenly get called on it later in life. This isn't the first time I've seen this happen, and no doubt it won't be the last.

Fact...It was quite ironic, living in a border town and nitzguy's dad would cross the border on a way too frequent basis....at least once every couple of weeks, hey to buy cheap milk and gas it was worth it but without getting into another thread about US vs Canada prices....

On a recent trip when the question was asked if they had a convincition in the US, nitz's dad replied no....was hauled in for secondary inspection and found that there was a drug related charge back in 1973....that's right, 1973...and he must have crossed the border at least 1000 times in that span if not more and was never questioned...

I hope for one never to be turned around at the border, but he was, and Canada Customs was waiting for him...thankfully with relatively open arms, but he cannot go to the US again...at least that's what the border inspector said....

So, having a criminal record in the US is a bad idea kids...regardless of situation. He should have realized that when he entered the contest...

I guess nitz's dad forgot to get his pardon, but he has said its not worth it now...which I guess is fine...

Its too bad though, some older memories that I wanted to have with my father will never happen now. Going golfing in South Carolina he used to do that every February with his brothers and his father...now I won't be able to share in that.

Oh well, that's the rules, that's the rules.

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said by nitzguy:

Fact...It was quite ironic, living in a border town and nitzguy's dad would cross the border on a way too frequent basis....at least once every couple of weeks, hey to buy cheap milk and gas it was worth it but without getting into another thread about US vs Canada prices....

On a recent trip when the question was asked if they had a convincition in the US, nitz's dad replied no....was hauled in for secondary inspection and found that there was a drug related charge back in 1973....that's right, 1973...and he must have crossed the border at least 1000 times in that span if not more and was never questioned...

I hope for one never to be turned around at the border, but he was, and Canada Customs was waiting for him...thankfully with relatively open arms, but he cannot go to the US again...at least that's what the border inspector said....

So, having a criminal record in the US is a bad idea kids...regardless of situation. He should have realized that when he entered the contest...

I guess nitz's dad forgot to get his pardon, but he has said its not worth it now...which I guess is fine...

Its too bad though, some older memories that I wanted to have with my father will never happen now. Going golfing in South Carolina he used to do that every February with his brothers and his father...now I won't be able to share in that.

Oh well, that's the rules, that's the rules.

There still is a way for him to get in..
It just requires a US Entry Waiver.

Its something like $500, takes 4-12 months to get, and requires a DHS background check.
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said by resa1983:

There still is a way for him to get in..
It just requires a US Entry Waiver.

Its something like $500, takes 4-12 months to get, and requires a DHS background check.

Thanks for the info, I'll pass it along, see what he says.


Gone
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It is my understanding that you need a separate one for each and every entry you make.

If it were a blanket exemption this would pretty much be a non-issue.


peterboro
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said by Gone:

Exactly. Once you have a pardon the Americans will never find out you had a criminal conviction even if they run a check (and in turn, you can answer "no" if they ask you), but once the Americans find out and download the conviction to their own immigration database you're SOL even if you get a pardon later on. In other words, one should not travel to the US until the get a pardon.

This has become a big issue for older people who had convictions when they were young, crossed the border throughout their entire lives and then suddenly get called on it later in life. This isn't the first time I've seen this happen, and no doubt it won't be the last.

And with the advent of the internet you have to change your name as well.

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said by Gone:

It is my understanding that you need a separate one for each and every entry you make.

If it were a blanket exemption this would pretty much be a non-issue.

I dunno.. We saw the price and decided he'd avoid the US in any vacations we took in the future.

Also: Keep in mind, that YOU don't need to be the one crossing the border to have your record pop up. A family member can cross and have your record pop up. Hubby's brother crossed prior to the pardon completion, and that's how the US knows about his pardoned offense. Total invasion of privacy, but hey its the US gov. Its to be expected.
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said by resa1983:

said by Gone:

It is my understanding that you need a separate one for each and every entry you make.

If it were a blanket exemption this would pretty much be a non-issue.

I dunno.. We saw the price and decided he'd avoid the US in any vacations we took in the future.

Also: Keep in mind, that YOU don't need to be the one crossing the border to have your record pop up. A family member can cross and have your record pop up. Hubby's brother crossed prior to the pardon completion, and that's how the US knows about his pardoned offense. Total invasion of privacy, but hey its the US gov. Its to be expected.

Well, it hasn't been mentioned and I've gone across the border a few times (1 by air as previously mentioned, and about 4 by ground in the past 12 months)...this happenned to nitz's dad back in 2008, so its been a few years....and I'm sure the record hasn't gone away...

Maybe because I live in a different city, or something to that effect they don't call me on it?

Had they asked me though, I would have said no at the time as I didn't know until just recently that this happenned, they had just never told me...I guess to keep me naieve about my father? I don't know...


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said by Gone:

It is my understanding that you need a separate one for each and every entry you make.

If it were a blanket exemption this would pretty much be a non-issue.

" A US entry waiver can be granted for a period of one (1), two (2) or five (5) years by the US Government and can be renewed. "

»www.commissionaires-ottawa.on.ca···r-V2.pdf
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Looks like someone in here had to get one.


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