Super Bowl contest winner denied entry to U.S. - Canadian Chat

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jaberi join:2010-08-13	reply to bluebaron2 Re: Super Bowl contest winner denied entry to U.S. they kept a record for 32 years? didn't colorado and some states decriminalize marijuana, so what happens in this case?...and what about the 2 grams, would they even arrest someone today for that?
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Xstar_Lumini join:2008-12-14 Canada kudos:2	reply to jaberi I see all these flyers at TTC bus stops about U.S. waivers/pardons for $500, but that's bullcrap the price you pay is around $1,800 to $3,000, you need a lawyer. My coworker was charged with drunk driving in 2007 and has a criminal record, he cannot enter the USA or get a canadian passport at that. That's what he's going to pay to get the pardon, around $3,000 for his lawyer.
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Gone Premium join:2011-01-24 Fort Erie, ON kudos:3 Reviews: ·Start Communicat..	reply to jaberi said by jaberi: didn't colorado and some states decriminalize marijuana ... it's a legal mess is what it is. When it comes to immigration though, federal law applies.
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TLS2000 Crazy Canuck Premium join:2004-02-24 Mississauga, ON	reply to Xstar_Lumini If he doesn't have charges pending and isn't on parole, he can certainly get a passport. That doesn't mean that anyone will let him into their country though. -- Tom
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resa1983 Premium join:2008-03-10 North York, ON kudos:7 Reviews: ·TekSavvy Cable	reply to Xstar_Lumini said by Xstar_Lumini: I see all these flyers at TTC bus stops about U.S. waivers/pardons for $500, but that's bullcrap the price you pay is around $1,800 to $3,000, you need a lawyer. My coworker was charged with drunk driving in 2007 and has a criminal record, he cannot enter the USA or get a canadian passport at that. That's what he's going to pay to get the pardon, around $3,000 for his lawyer. Pardons can be done without a lawyer, for MUCH cheaper than 3k, and as long as you follow the instructions properly it'll be done in the same time period as if you went with a lawyer. As for entering the US - its up to the border guard, but if all it was was a DUI, they can let you in as the US gov doesn't consider that 'serious' (go figure). quote: At this time, driving under the influence, breaking and entering, disorderly conduct and simple assault are not considered crimes that make a person inadmissible to the U.S., although if there are multiple convictions and or other misdemeanors, you could be denied entry. »help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/···,-waiver -- Battle.net Tech Support MVP
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Gone Premium join:2011-01-24 Fort Erie, ON kudos:3	Go figure, as impaired driving is one of the things that the CBSA won't screw around with and will typically disqualify you on the spot.
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hmm @videotron.ca	reply to Gone said by Gone: This has become a big issue for older people who had convictions when they were young, crossed the border throughout their entire lives and then suddenly get called on it later in life. This isn't the first time I've seen this happen, and no doubt it won't be the last. It's not only criminal convictions (or felonies). People who have attempted suicide have also been refused entry into the states. Been many a story where Mom tried to get on a plane with her family and she is refused while dad and the kids continue. Did your suicide attempt require an ambulance and that got a cop involved to make a report? Then you are prone to be stopped and refused entry at any time to the states (or flying through their air space for that matter). I do believe suicide is still a crime in American books even if it's not in Canada. I recall reading that there is some fed place you have to write to, and maaaaybe pay as well to have this removed so it doesn't end up in American hands should you and the family decide to go to the states, but I no longer recall the routine, or where I read this. But a google search should bring it up. Think it might be on PrivComs's site as well.
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Gone Premium join:2011-01-24 Fort Erie, ON kudos:3 Reviews: ·Start Communicat..	Suicide has nothing to do with any of that. Rather, it is an ongoing history of involuntary admission to a mental health facility that can be an issue. Either way, those are far easier to deal with than being denied entry because of a criminal record.
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hm @videotron.ca	reply to resa1983 said by resa1983: There still is a way for him to get in.. It just requires a US Entry Waiver. Its something like $500, takes 4-12 months to get, and requires a DHS background check. Hmm I've had friends with felonies in the states come to Canada and Canadian friends with convictions go to my summer place in the states. Both DUI's. In the Canadian case I called the American border to find out the info and was told no problem and given a reference number should there be some issue crossing in the states. Had to give them the story of his DUI. In the American case. Nothing. I was told the guy has to fill out a form and give something like 500$ to some place in Boston to get some sort of waiver to cross into Canada. Canadian border told us to just take a chance and cross in with him. If anything they will just refuse him entry and we can drive him back home heh. And that's what we did. No issue. Don't ask, don't tell.
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hmm @videotron.ca	reply to Gone said by Gone: Suicide has nothing to do with any of that. Rather, it is an ongoing history of involuntary admission to a mental health facility that can be an issue. Either way, those are far easier to deal with than being denied entry because of a criminal record. Nothing to do with history. All to do that you tried to commit suicide. However, I seem to recall in this one instance with that women who was stopped on her way to disney land with her family had to then produce medical records (or something like that), which again is an invasion of privacy. But it had something to do with suicide being illegal in the states. Same amount of paperwork, no clue about fee's though. Either way it's a border stopper. If someone did this, best to do the paperwork to get it removed or you will then be required to submit medical records etc.
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hmm @videotron.ca	reply to Gone Here are a couple of links on the suicide or mental illness issue. Canadian woman denied entry to U.S. because of suicide attempt »www.thestar.com/news/gta/2011/01···mpt.html Canadians with mental illnesses denied U.S. entry »www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/201···acy.html
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TLS2000 Crazy Canuck Premium join:2004-02-24 Mississauga, ON Reviews: ·TekSavvy Cable ·Rogers Hi-Speed	The fact of the matter is they can decide who they'll allow into their country just as we can. If they require access to police records or they'll shut the border, then Canada has little room to maneuver. Asking her for medical records is not an invasion of privacy. It's them saying: prove that you don't have XXX medical condition or we won't let you in. She's free to turn around at any point. -- Tom
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J E F F Whatta Ya Think About Dat? Premium join:2004-04-01 Kitchener, ON kudos:1 Reviews: ·Rogers Portable .. ·WIND Mobile ·Rogers Hi-Speed ·magicjack.com	reply to nitzguy Things have changed since Obama came into power. Just about everyone's freedoms in that country have been extinguished, so now they're doing it to people trying to enter that country. -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. - Albert Einstein
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J E F F Whatta Ya Think About Dat? Premium join:2004-04-01 Kitchener, ON kudos:1 Reviews: ·Rogers Portable .. ·WIND Mobile ·Rogers Hi-Speed ·magicjack.com	reply to jaberi said by jaberi: they kept a record for 32 years? didn't colorado and some states decriminalize marijuana, so what happens in this case?...and what about the 2 grams, would they even arrest someone today for that? It's still a federal offence regardless of what Colorado or Washington state allow. You deal with Homeland Security, not with a state .gov. -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. - Albert Einstein
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Grappler join:2002-09-01 Ottawa, ON	reply to hmm said by hmm : But it had something to do with suicide being illegal in the states. I imagine that if there is any state that has such an offence then their conviction rate must be Zero, especially if the accused has the right to be present to defend themselves.
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Gone Premium join:2011-01-24 Fort Erie, ON kudos:3 Reviews: ·Start Communicat..	reply to hmm said by hmm : Nothing to do with history. All to do that you tried to commit suicide. You are completely incorrect on this particular issue, and are talking about a lot of things for which you have a demonstrable lack of knowledge. Suicide itself is not the issue. The only way the Americans would even have access to records is if an involuntary admission to a mental health facility was involved, as it in a weird way is equivalent to an arrest record. This would pull up a red flag even if it was something completely unrelated to suicide. Furthermore, getting around this and proving that you're no longer ill and no longer being considered inadmissible is much much easier than dealing with the same when it is due to a criminal record. For what it's worth, Canada has very similar requirements when it comes to admission and health issues. No one should be surprised by this.
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capdjq RIP my friend Premium join:2000-11-01 Coastie	reply to jaberi I could be wrong, but on the Computer it only states that one has a criminal? conviction. It doesn't state the nature of the crime unless they investigate further.
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Styvas Golf Canucks Golf Premium join:2004-09-15 Hamilton, ON	said by capdjq: I could be wrong, but on the Computer it only states that one has a criminal? conviction. It doesn't state the nature of the crime unless they investigate further. It would depend on what level of CPIC they have access to. We also have access to the same info (Gone can corroborate, of course). Do you ever watch Border Security on NatGeo? The CBSA agents regularly pull American criminal records as part of their investigations with travelers.
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IamGimli join:2004-02-28 Canada kudos:1	reply to resa1983 said by resa1983: As for entering the US - its up to the border guard, but if all it was was a DUI, they can let you in as the US gov doesn't consider that 'serious' (go figure). quote: At this time, driving under the influence, breaking and entering, disorderly conduct and simple assault are not considered crimes that make a person inadmissible to the U.S., although if there are multiple convictions and or other misdemeanors, you could be denied entry. »help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/···,-waiver Driving under the influence and impaired driving are not the same thing. One is a misdemeanor, the other a felony. It's the same difference between an impaired driving charge under a provincial highway traffic act (at .03 or .05 BAC) or an impaired driving charge under the Criminal Code (at .08 BAC). A criminal charge of impaired driving can certainly disqualify someone from being able to enter the US, especially if it was pursued as an indictable offense instead of a summary offense.
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zod5000 join:2003-10-21 Victoria, BC Reviews: ·Shaw	reply to J E F F said by J E F F: Things have changed since Obama came into power. Just about everyone's freedoms in that country have been extinguished, so now they're doing it to people trying to enter that country. I'm not sure where to begin with this one. I think more freedoms were lost when George W. was president. The patriot act, dmca, warrantless initiatives... all the knee jerk reactionary stuff after 911 had a big impact on the US. I don't think anything to that level has come in under Obama's watch. That being said, a US president doesn't actually have the ability to make law. Congress does and operates seperately from the president. The president only has the power of veto (to reject a law) while can be overruled with a 66% vote in the senate? I think my point is that a US president has way less domestic powers than people think. Now barring all of this. The criminal record check at the border predates 911. It's nothing new at all. There's at least one story a year in the paper about someone with some old minor charge that was stopped from crossing the border. It's also common knowledge that things stay on your criminal record until you apply to have them removed. I know we don't view a marijuana charge as very serious. However we also know the USA is completely hellbent and anal when it comes to drugs (washington & colorado being the exceptions). If you were going to have a history trying to cross the border into the US, I wouldn't think a drug charge would be one of the ones they'd ignore.
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