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SharpSh00ter

join:2013-02-05
Florida, NY

[OOL] Multiple Modems

Does anyone know if it is possible to use two modems. I don't want both on the internet though. I would like to keep one upstairs for phone and tv while putting a second one downstairs that is just for the internet. Does anyone know if this is possible, and if it is would it still count as needing a second internet subscription?

frdrizzt

join:2008-05-03
Ronkonkoma, NY
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If you have more than 2 phone lines you will get 2 modems (would only need 1 OOL subscription). Otherwise internet & phone will run off 1 modem. TV does not factor in.

I'd suggest a phone base connected to the modem where you want it for internet & chargers/handsets in other rooms if there are not phone jacks available by the modem & in the rooms you want phones.

Bob4
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join:2012-07-22
New Jersey
reply to SharpSh00ter
TV does not use a modem.

Phone service requires an OOL account on the same modem.

What you want to do requires two OOL accounts.

Seems silly to do, when all you need to do is run an Ethernet cable somewhere.


RARPSL

join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
said by Bob4:

TV does not use a modem.

Phone service requires an OOL account on the same modem.

What you want to do requires two OOL accounts.

Seems silly to do, when all you need to do is run an Ethernet cable somewhere.

I may be wrong but I think you are allowed to have a Phone-Only modem (ie: They do not provision an Internet address to it) without incurring a 2nd Modem Charge. This impression is based on a memory that Ultra was/is? not compatible with Phone Support so a 2nd modem was supplied for the phone support.

UnknownBeing

join:2012-12-30
Hopewell Junction, NY

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reply to frdrizzt
said by frdrizzt:

If you have more than 2 phone lines you will get 2 modems (would only need 1 OOL subscription).

You don't get two modems. You get a two line modem.
Edit: Sorry I read that wrong! My bad.


limegrass69
Here's my Posting tag

join:2008-05-28
2 lines = one modem.
More than 2 lines = 2 modems.

root

join:2002-12-11
reply to SharpSh00ter
said by SharpSh00ter:

Does anyone know if it is possible to use two modems. I don't want both on the internet though. I would like to keep one upstairs for phone and tv while putting a second one downstairs that is just for the internet. Does anyone know if this is possible, and if it is would it still count as needing a second internet subscription?

It is possible to have two modems in a single location with one being provisioned for OV only and the other being for OOL only. As to what circumstances it would take to make that happen...I'm not 100% sure.

cablewizzard

join:2009-06-14
Hicksville, NY
kudos:1
said by root:

said by SharpSh00ter:

Does anyone know if it is possible to use two modems. I don't want both on the internet though. I would like to keep one upstairs for phone and tv while putting a second one downstairs that is just for the internet. Does anyone know if this is possible, and if it is would it still count as needing a second internet subscription?

It is possible to have two modems in a single location with one being provisioned for OV only and the other being for OOL only. As to what circumstances it would take to make that happen...I'm not 100% sure.

Separate modems are not offered as regular, billed service (you really would have to pay for OOL twice, but there were some noises here that that is no longer possible under the same account), it's only offered out of necessity when nothing else (from CV's point of view) works out:

It's a necessity on multi-line accounts, e.g.: a business orders 5 OV lines, they'll get a 4-port and 2-port modem, and OOL is disabled on one of the modems, not necessarily the 2nd one.

For residential, even if you order 3 or 4 lines (4 is the current max, I think), you'll get a 4-port modem, rarely two 2-port ones - the RF signal is stronger without the additional splitter, which can be a problem in some locations.

Ultra has not required a separate modem in a very long time: when CV started up DOCIS3.0 service in May 2009, the only D3 modems available were data-only: the Moto SB6120 and the Cisco DPC3000 were used (if you wish to read back forum posts that far), and they would, of course, install additional D2 VOIP modem(s) for any OV lines ordered. This separation has not been necessary since the SBV6220 (2-line D3.0) became available in early 2010, and the SB6120/DPC3000 modems have long been superseded by other hardware (Cisco DPQ3212, DPQ3925, Arris TM802, TM804, TM822).

majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
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I thought businesses with more then 2 lines get those 8 or 16 line boxes that connect to the modem ?


RARPSL

join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
reply to cablewizzard
said by cablewizzard:

Ultra has not required a separate modem in a very long time: when CV started up DOCIS3.0 service in May 2009, the only D3 modems available were data-only: the Moto SB6120 and the Cisco DPC3000 were used (if you wish to read back forum posts that far), and they would, of course, install additional D2 VOIP modem(s) for any OV lines ordered. This separation has not been necessary since the SBV6220 (2-line D3.0) became available in early 2010, and the SB6120/DPC3000 modems have long been superseded by other hardware (Cisco DPQ3212, DPQ3925, Arris TM802, TM804, TM822).

Thank you for verifying my impression (which I hedged with a "is/was") about Ultra and a separate VOIP modem and clearing up the situation. As you note, the separate VOIP Modem was a special situation which is now longer needed or supported (unless you need more than 2 lines). I apologize for the misinformation.

Bob4
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join:2012-07-22
New Jersey
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reply to SharpSh00ter
quote:
SharpSh00ter
Last seen: 2013-02-05 18:27:39
At this point, I don't know that the OP is interested in the answer... He disappeared 17 minutes after asking the question and hasn't been back since.

frdrizzt

join:2008-05-03
Ronkonkoma, NY
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reply to majortom1029
said by majortom1029:

I thought businesses with more then 2 lines get those 8 or 16 line boxes that connect to the modem ?

Yeah, they'll give businesses 4 line modems for 3+ line orders, and 12-line modems for 8+, I believe. They don't offer either to residential accounts (max 4 per account)


sff

join:1999-07-20
New Rochelle, NY
reply to cablewizzard
said by cablewizzard:

said by root:

said by SharpSh00ter:

Does anyone know if it is possible to use two modems. ..snip.. I would like to keep one upstairs for phone and tv while putting a second one downstairs that is just for the internet. ..snip..

...snip...

..snip..

It's a necessity on multi-line accounts, e.g.: a business orders 5 OV lines, they'll get a 4-port and 2-port modem, and OOL is disabled on one of the modems, not necessarily the 2nd one.

For residential, even if you order 3 or 4 lines (4 is the current max, I think), you'll get a 4-port modem, rarely two 2-port ones - the RF signal is stronger without the additional splitter, which can be a problem in some locations.

Ultra has not required a separate modem in a very long time: when CV started up DOCIS3.0 service in May 2009, the only D3 modems available were data-only: ..snip.. This separation has not been necessary since the SBV6220 (2-line D3.0) became available in early 2010, and the SB6120/DPC3000 modems have long been superseded by other hardware (Cisco DPQ3212, DPQ3925, Arris TM802, TM804, TM822).

Are there any D3.0 4 phone port modems available? My brother has 3 phone lines and one modem, not D3.0. His internet has been pretty poor for a a long time.


Sass

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Arris 4 line doc 3 ya

cablewizzard

join:2009-06-14
Hicksville, NY
kudos:1
reply to sff
said by sff:

Are there any D3.0 4 phone port modems available? My brother has 3 phone lines and one modem, not D3.0. His internet has been pretty poor for a a long time.

The Arris TM804 I mentioned is a 4-VOIP-port D3.0 modem.


psilocybin

join:2007-07-19
Monroe, NY
reply to root
said by root:

said by SharpSh00ter:

Does anyone know if it is possible to use two modems. I don't want both on the internet though. I would like to keep one upstairs for phone and tv while putting a second one downstairs that is just for the internet. Does anyone know if this is possible, and if it is would it still count as needing a second internet subscription?

It is possible to have two modems in a single location with one being provisioned for OV only and the other being for OOL only. As to what circumstances it would take to make that happen...I'm not 100% sure.

I have two modems left over from when Ultra first came out (first Ultra modem didn't have phone jacks) and still have a 2nd modem just for OV. When a tech replaced my Ultra modem he wasn't inclined to move the OV lines over to the new modem, been too lazy to get it changed.

milan22

join:2008-12-17
Newark, NJ
reply to Bob4
said by frdrizzt:

TV does not factor in.

said by Bob4:

TV does not use a modem.

Oh no? It's pretty clear that he's hooking up his modem to his TV. Newsflash, TV's can be connected to the internet for youtube, netflix, hulu, etc...

xirian
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join:2003-01-26
Beacon, NY
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said by milan22:

said by frdrizzt:

TV does not factor in.

said by Bob4:

TV does not use a modem.

Oh no? It's pretty clear that he's hooking up his modem to his TV. Newsflash, TV's can be connected to the internet for youtube, netflix, hulu, etc...

He said he wants to keep one upstairs for phone and tv, doesn't want internet on both. Therefore he thinks his cable tv comes from the modem.

Bob4
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join:2012-07-22
New Jersey
Well, it may have just been inelegant phrasing,