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Gone
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Fort Erie, ON
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reply to Xstar_Lumini

Re: [Wind] Wind Mobile has new plans...

said by Xstar_Lumini:

250 daytime minutes a month
free weekends and evenings (after 8:00pm)
Toll/long distance charge if calling from outside the GTA (even to another Rogers phone)
500 pathetic MB's a month
$6 for call ID extra
NO text messages $72 dollars

I get 1000 minutes, unlimited evenings/weekends at 6, unlimited incoming, unlimited R2R, unlimited text, free North American LD, voicemail, call display, VVM (which I never use) and 3GB of data for the same price on Rogers. It'd be $10/month more for 6GB.

You are either talking to the wrong person, or you're acting like a prick to the ones you do.


J E F F
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Really though, what you did is what the big 3 are afraid of everyone figuring out. If everyone does sip and get their own DID, the market will have to figure away to adjust.
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J E F F
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reply to dirtyjeffer

Looks like my current Rogers plan after discounts, though I still have MY 5 as well. My problem is that 500GB or 1GB is not enough with a smart phone, not if you're using it anyway. 2GB might be okay, 3 GB would be great. If I could have my plan that I have now, with 3 GB, I'd stay with them, but my plan no longer exists. Rogers minimum plan for the z10 is $70. Wind is $20, or $30 for a plan that is equal to Rogers $100 plan...yikes.
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elwoodblues
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said by J E F F:

Looks like my current Rogers plan after discounts, though I still have MY 5 as well. My problem is that 500GB or 1GB is not enough with a smart phone, not if you're using it anyway. 2GB might be okay, 3 GB would be great. If I could have my plan that I have now, with 3 GB, I'd stay with them, but my plan no longer exists. Rogers minimum plan for the z10 is $70. Wind is $20, or $30 for a plan that is equal to Rogers $100 plan...yikes.

That is my fight, i have 6gb, they want an outrageous amount of money to offer me that and i don't want to lose it.. i rarely use above 2gb,but I don't want to have to monitor my usage.
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MaynardKrebs
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reply to analog andy

said by analog andy:

Also I believe with Wind if your tab is not paid off after three years they pay off the outstanding amount, so if you're on a TAB keep your phone for 3 years and only have to pay for part of it.

That's correct - unless they've also changed that recently.
Deal is that they take 10% of your pre-tax monthly bill (say $40) and apply that against the outstanding phone balance for 36 months. At the end of 36 months they write-down the outstanding balance to $0.

As of today, Wind sells the Nexus 4 retail at $549 cash purchase price, but you can put it on their "TAB" with $249 downpayment. Now add $4 (10% of $40) x 36 months = $144, which brings the total price you paid for the phone to $249 cash + a notional 144 = $393 This is about what you'd have paid buying it directly from the Google Play store today. As long as you stick around for the full 3 years, it's a good deal.

bbvax

join:2006-08-01
St Catharines, ON

said by MaynardKrebs:

As of today, Wind sells the Nexus 4 retail at $549 cash purchase price, but you can put it on their "TAB" with $249 downpayment. Now add $4 (10% of $40) x 36 months = $144, which brings the total price you paid for the phone to $249 cash + a notional 144 = $393 This is about what you'd have paid buying it directly from the Google Play store today. As long as you stick around for the full 3 years, it's a good deal.

Since you seem to understand the Wind tab system I have a question.

Lets say I already have a Nexus 4 and use the $40 account.

Do I still get a tab? In other words if I stay on this account for 3 years do I have a $144 credit on it, which I could use to put toward a new phone at that time?

resa1983
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reply to J E F F

Keep in mind if you want a WindTab, they do a quick credit check.
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resa1983
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reply to bbvax

said by bbvax:

said by MaynardKrebs:

As of today, Wind sells the Nexus 4 retail at $549 cash purchase price, but you can put it on their "TAB" with $249 downpayment. Now add $4 (10% of $40) x 36 months = $144, which brings the total price you paid for the phone to $249 cash + a notional 144 = $393 This is about what you'd have paid buying it directly from the Google Play store today. As long as you stick around for the full 3 years, it's a good deal.

Since you seem to understand the Wind tab system I have a question.

Lets say I already have a Nexus 4 and use the $40 account.

Do I still get a tab? In other words if I stay on this account for 3 years do I have a $144 credit on it, which I could use to put toward a new phone at that time?

No. You purchase the phone for $249. The remaining $300 goes onto a WindTab - ie what you still owe for the phone.

Wind takes takes $4 off the balance owing on WindTab for every month you're with them. After 3 years, despite only paying off $144.00, they write off the $156.00 still 'owing', and the phone is yours free & clear.
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J E F F
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reply to resa1983

said by resa1983:

Keep in mind if you want a WindTab, they do a quick credit check.

Yeah, I was approved for 10 phones....like, as if I need 10 phones...when I was there, two other people trying to get phones were declined, so I was thinking "Man, there ARE people out their with worse credit than me..."
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MaynardKrebs
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reply to resa1983

said by resa1983:

said by bbvax:

said by MaynardKrebs:

As of today, Wind sells the Nexus 4 retail at $549 cash purchase price, but you can put it on their "TAB" with $249 downpayment. Now add $4 (10% of $40) x 36 months = $144, which brings the total price you paid for the phone to $249 cash + a notional 144 = $393 This is about what you'd have paid buying it directly from the Google Play store today. As long as you stick around for the full 3 years, it's a good deal.

Since you seem to understand the Wind tab system I have a question.

Lets say I already have a Nexus 4 and use the $40 account.

Do I still get a tab? In other words if I stay on this account for 3 years do I have a $144 credit on it, which I could use to put toward a new phone at that time?

No. You purchase the phone for $249. The remaining $300 goes onto a WindTab - ie what you still owe for the phone.

Wind takes takes $4 off the balance owing on WindTab for every month you're with them. After 3 years, despite only paying off $144.00, they write off the $156.00 still 'owing', and the phone is yours free & clear.

The $144 you "pay" is just a notional (non-cash) amount.

You're actually paying $40/month +tax - but you are NOT paying an extra $4/month for the phone on top of that. Wind is doing an accounting exercise with your $40, allocating $36 of it to the 'plan' and $4 of it to the phone.

So Wind is actually eating the $144 since if you never got a phone on the TAB, Wind would have had that $144 in the bank as profit.

Again - as long as you think you're going to be a Wind customer for 3 years, it's a good deal for you.

On the other hand, say you decide to leave Wind after 1 year. You'd have:

Retail phone price = $549
- Phone downpayment = $249
---------------------------
Total Balance owing = $300
- 12 months x $4 = $48
---------------------------
Balance @ 1 year = $252

So you'd owe Wind $252 for the phone after 12 months if you switched carriers. That would result in you having paid $249 +252 = $501 for the phone.

If you switched carriers after 2 years, the balance owing on the phone would be $252-another $48 = $204, making your phone's total cost after 2 years = $249 + 202 = $451

It clearly is to your advantage to stick around for the full 3 years as your total cost for the phone would be $249. Buying the Nexus 4 directly from Google costs $349 upfront.


dirtyjeffer
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reply to J E F F

said by J E F F:

My problem is that 500GB or 1GB is not enough with a smart phone, not if you're using it anyway. 2GB might be okay, 3 GB would be great.

i don't use a ton of data, but it is lower than "normal" because i am on wifi at home, at work, and when i go to my friend's house, so i don't really use a TON of data when i don't have wifi available...heck, even all of downtown London has free wifi.
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resa1983
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reply to J E F F

My plan has 100MB data with Wind, and frankly it's usually more than sufficient for me - emails can *usually* wait, and when they can't, it's almost nothing for an email.
Mostly I'll download an occasional pdf from fightcopyrighttrolls.com, and get all my tweets since I've left a wifi area.
I set my cell up to only download/update apps via wifi.

With wifi at home and work, I usually don't use much data.
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Mindman

join:2012-12-10
Merritt, BC
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reply to J E F F

I recently replaced my LG shine+ to a iphone and got

not sure how many minutes
Family Calling LD
Favourite Numbers 10
Text Messaging Services
MHSI APN Access
6pm Local Nights & Weekends
SPARK Sampler
Unlimited Messaging
Family Calling
Canadian LD @ $0.45
10 Favourite No. national
911 Emergency Access Charge
6GB Included Data
Conference Calling
Caller ID
Favourite No. Mutual Exclusion
Outbound Call Display On
Call Waiting
Voice Mail 3

got that for $60/mo.



loosedobbs

join:2006-06-13
Toronto
reply to J E F F

What?

VimpelCom seeking buyer for Wind Mobile Canada: report

»www.theglobeandmail.com/report-o···0062360/


MaynardKrebs
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said by loosedobbs:

What?

VimpelCom seeking buyer for Wind Mobile Canada: report

»www.theglobeandmail.com/report-o···0062360/

This is an expected result due to the abject failure of The Harper GovernmentTM's telecom policy.


corster
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Gatineau, QC

VimpelCom never wanted WIND anyways. They got stuck with it when they bought Orascom.


MaynardKrebs
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said by corster:

VimpelCom never wanted WIND anyways. They got stuck with it when they bought Orascom.

You meant Wind in Canada, correct?


J E F F
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reply to loosedobbs

said by loosedobbs:

What?

VimpelCom seeking buyer for Wind Mobile Canada: report

»www.theglobeandmail.com/report-o···0062360/

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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dirtyjeffer
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reply to MaynardKrebs

said by MaynardKrebs:

This is an expected result due to the abject failure of The Harper GovernmentTM's telecom policy.

no, its an expected result of a small entrant wireless carrier offering plans for $30 that the Big3 sell for $60...there's a reason these small carriers fold, and it has nothing to do with the government.

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