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nitzguy
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join:2002-07-11
Sudbury, ON
reply to Gone

Re: Superbowl Ads We Missed in Canada

said by Gone:

The Niagara Region, including Fort Erie, is technically within the Grade B contour of CFTO. Whether you can actually get anything is an entirely different issue. The cutoff point in the GTA is north of Major Mac, which is amusing as that's fairly easy to get CFTO off the air. Furthermore, Fort Erie is *not* within the Grade B contour of City's HD transmitter in Toronto, yet Shaw simsubs us. Cogeco also used to simsub CTV2 out of Barrie well before Bell had a transmitter running in Niagara. You also *never* see Shaw or Cogeco simsub a cable network like TSN or Sportsnet over an American broadcast channel, yet this is a regular occurrence with Rogers and Bell.

So, even though there's regulations in place, it's pretty much the wild west. Providers do what they want. Shaw and Bell obviously don't like each other for whatever reason and I would not be surprised if this had something to do with Shaw's "willingness" to simsub their channels. Likewise, some providers simsub when they have no entitlement to do it. Unless people complain, stuff like this will continue to happen.

Really? We used to simsub CKVR? Very odd...does CKVR have a transmitter in niagara now?

I think you see TSN getting simsubbed over Bell because of "vertical integration". IE. its very easy...like I said, a request is sent from the broadcaster to the distributor....for things like Rogers channels on Rogers Cable network well obviously they want to protect their interests so they're going to do it no problem...same with Bell and TSN...protecting their interests...

Since Shaw doesn't have "as much" (although they have Global now, so that may change a little, but Global doesn't have football anymore so its a moot point), they're less likely...

I was looking at TVfool and I think the contours for digital have changed as according to it, you'd be on the Edge of receiving CFTO-DT...whether or not you actually receive it...just reading what I see here when I type in Fort Erie, ON . Also they haven't published their maps with the FCC for the actual contour areas, so maybe Shaw Direct is just taking that at face value?

So again, I think its just about ease of getting it done....easy to do it when you have the same company and there are synergies...doesn't make sense otherwise...except for those special occassions like the Superbowl and Football Playoffs...


Gone
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join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
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CFTO isn't simsubbed in St. Cats either, so there is more to it than just the contours. Like I said, it's the wild west.



corster
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join:2002-02-23
Gatineau, QC
reply to Gone

said by Gone:

You also *never* see Shaw or Cogeco simsub a cable network like TSN or Sportsnet over an American broadcast channel, yet this is a regular occurrence with Rogers and Bell.

But only when it's a station they own.


Gone
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join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:4

Exactly. Shaw is no different. They'll simsub Global anywhere and everywhere even if there is no transmitter within a Grade B contour.



nitzguy
Premium
join:2002-07-11
Sudbury, ON
reply to Gone

said by Gone:

CFTO isn't simsubbed in St. Cats either, so there is more to it than just the contours. Like I said, it's the wild west.

Weird...oh well, I only remember running the thing when I worked for Persona in 2005....had to be sure that if the football game went over that it switched back to the US feed....it takes a click of a keyboard and about 6 seconds later, poof...go football!

Good times....

zod5000

join:2003-10-21
Victoria, BC
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reply to lugnut

I had no idea why TSN and Sportsnet moved to basic! That makes so much sense! Thats pretty clever by their respective owners, but the CRTC really needs to clamp down on that stuff.

How many channels really need basic service. It ends up increasing the cost of the package. I suppose of the CRTC doesn't step in, the TV business is going to price itself ouf of the market (as giant basic lineups and forced packages are spiraling up tv bills at a crazy rate).

If I only I could get OTA here