Topic 'Tablet Discussions' in forum 'PC Hardware Discussion/Reviews' - dslreports.com

Re: Tablet Discussions

Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:08:00 EDT

Octavean posted : Here is another odd bird:

The Asus FonePad:

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=W64oA7-ZeaE

ASUS FonePad official: 7-inch tablet with phone functionality, priced at $249 (hands-on)

Its the first Intel Atom based 7" tablet I can recall seeing. So its a "PC" tablet but it is running Google Android Jellybean natively,....and has smartphone functionality,....

With a Bluetooth headset or headphones it might make a really good all-in-one type of on the go platform.

Ultimately I would say its a PC though due to its native x86 / x64 support,...

Re: Tablet Discussions

Mon, 18 Feb 2013 11:07:51 EDT

kingdome74 posted : I'll take as much information I can get about tabs because I'm contemplating one. I've always kind of considered this forum more about computer parts and problems thereof versus completed builds as a whole. I'm fine either way.
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:38:02 EDT

Octavean posted : I can see oh some people would be confused or conflicted. I still kind of have my own vision of how I think it should be in order to keep things organized and fair but it would also require subdividing this forum.

There is some overlap at times though. One or two devices that don't fit neatly in any one category. Such as the ASUS Transformer All-In-One which incorporates a rather large Android / ARM tablet as a removable display for a desktop PC:

»m.youtube.com/watch?v=W9LIk9i3Fe···=related

Such things are few and far between though,....

Re: Tablet Discussions

Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:52:06 EDT

ImpldConsent posted :

said by signmeuptoo:

I move that tablet discussions be forever barred from the computer hardware forum. Tablets are the enemy of desktop technology. Take this to the Android or apple forums, please!

Gawd, I'm torn! MODS haven't done anything, so they're torn as well. Maybe a re-name of the forum? Take "PC" out and expand it to just "Hardware Discussion/Reviews" -or- "Computing Hardware...". I too feel more comfortable with PC hardware v. tablets, but I'm not afraid to learn. How much different can the logic be (processor, memory, controllers, BIOS, storage ... and requisite gorilla glass)?
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:53:19 EDT

signmeuptoo posted : Up.

Re: Tablet Discussions

Sun, 17 Feb 2013 05:53:22 EDT

nonymous posted :

said by signmeuptoo:

Well, I guess that with PCs, they ARE already divided by OS, which is what I am suggesting under a master forum for tablets. Dividing tablets or PCs by hardware is just too difficult to do I think, example: I just ordered my first factory build in 18 years, a Lenovo laptop, a G580. When I say G580, it can mean lots of things, Windows 7, or maybe 8; Intel Pentium, or maybe i3, or maybe i5; Blue, black, Brown, and on and on. Very confusing when I tried to get reviews of it.

Now OTOH, a system running Linux, if it isn't a hardware issue, we take it to all things *nix...

Yes, we can be defeatist and say "oh, it's too difficult, let's do nothing and just see what happens" but doing nothing isn't usually a good idea in business. Failing to act can be fatal for a business.

The thing is, perhaps a revamp: a General computer forum, with sub forums of "Windows or Linux Desktop" "Apple Desktop and laptop" "Windows Laptop" "Windows tablet" "Apple Tablet" "other OS tablet" and finally "micro and other computing".

My instincts are that if we just leave things as is, at some point things will devolve for PC discussions and people will drift away from this forum and, much as like what has happened to the overclocking forum, it will more or less die.

Or... We get with the program, and, well, ACT!

What is the issue with linux? If you are going computers into computers in certain degrees you better love linux at some universities. I run dual boot and as far as hardware ms or linux the same.
Plus intel intel intel. Sure. AMD faltered. Now maybe arm will pickup the slack. Linux works on arm. Either you adapt and grow or get left behind.
Overclocking died off as newest.cpu are.already fast for most users. Less need and now more fun.
In real life you can type in your 1000 lines of code any way you want. The constraint we be say what your university wants. Compile and run on centos on the mainframe using gcc . Or similar for work etc.
Then add in network or cloud computing a tablet could easily keep up with a computer.
Really would like to know what way you may go with a computer degree.

Re: Tablet Discussions

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:19:05 EDT

nonymous posted : Fine kill your forum off. Hard drives, ssd, monitors etc. tend to be the same no matter the cpu or operating system. ARM is growing fast and honestly I rarely see much at a true cpu hardware level discussed beyond maybe speed features. I hope those on this forum can figure out an ARM at that level. Not asking for machine code or anything. Just same old stuff how fast, needed cooling etc. Apple was most likely divided off at first only because users could not do their own work due to apple being a closed system. Some tablets have just as much upgrade ability as the OPs prize new laptop. Oh wait he was bragging it is MS not linux as linux questions must be booting to the nix forum. Like an MS question might stay here and not get booted to the microsoft forum.
Hope maybe this forum dies sooner then later with these ideas. No way could a tablet be networked into a home server, printer etc. That concept would need a tablet forum a server forum and a general printer forum to keep things under control. You either adapt and grow or become irrelevant.

Re: Tablet Discussions

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:04:07 EDT

signmeuptoo posted : Well, I guess:

Taco Bell makes tacos with a ground meat filling. I make my own tacos with a ground meat filling. But let me tell ya, there's a difference.

But I just want other people discussing this here, it is something that may need discussion.
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:52:30 EDT

Octavean posted : I think I understand what you are getting at but the deciding factor there seems more based on the form factor.

For example, if you have two Chromebooks side by side with one using a Exynos 5 Dual Core Cortex-A15 SoC and the other using a Intel Celeron 847 1.1GHz,.....you might not be able to tell the difference by just looking but if you look closely enough you may see that the platforms are different. I just think its a mistake to only consider the form.

If you can shrink an old 486 DX processor based system down to the size of a watch that you can put on your wrist nothing has changed save for its size so why regard it differently,.....?

ARM is a completely different architecture,....and that is the meat of it IMO.

Re: Tablet Discussions

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:43:07 EDT

aurgathor posted :

said by Octavean:

.The point I am trying to make here is that just because something doesn't look like a traditional computer doesn't mean that it isn't. PC tablets (x86 / x64) are IMO traditional computers,....

I agree with computers, but disagree with "traditional". To me, that's a desktop, tower or SFF with a separate monitor, keyboard, and mouse. One can definitely make the Surface look more or less as a traditional PC by plugging in an external monitor and attaching a kb/mouse via a USB hub, but even then, traditional is a bit of a stretch.
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 09:08:15 EDT

Octavean posted :

said by nonymous:

So you can only have a PC if it is x86/ x64? What about a rasperry pi?

As I understand it the rasperry pi is an ARM based device so I would put it in the same category as other ARM devices,....

ARM based server,....

ARM based tablet,...

ARM based phone,....

they all have the same DNA,.....IMO,...

Re: Tablet Discussions

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 05:40:09 EDT

J E F F posted : The way I see it: tablets can use wireless keyboards, mouse, hooked up to an external display and used as a computer for doing word processing, spreadsheets, listening to music, watching videos. All the stuff that a PC can do.

Although if they wanted to make a tablet based forum, I'd be happy to join it.
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:06:52 EDT

nonymous posted : If i am using the micro computer like a pc i would post here. If more like a specific non pc use most likely the electronics forum. Os heck most of mine are dual boot so os has little to do with hardware questions.

Re: Tablet Discussions

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:00:09 EDT

signmeuptoo posted : Well, I'm not the webadim, and understand what you are saying also. In time, computer hardware will be less prevalent, so this forum might not be as pertinent.

Re: Tablet Discussions

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:39:10 EDT

Octavean posted : I hear what your saying and I don't totally disagree.

One of my favorite forums for my Asus Eee slate EP121 Core i5 based PC Tablet is over at tabletpcreview.com under:

Forum > Windows Tablet PCs > Asus > EP121 Slate

They also have:

Hardware
Accessories
Acer
Dell
Fujitsu
HP
Lenovo
Microsoft
Panasonic
Samsung
Sony
Toshiba
Other Brands

All with their own forums along with:

Apple / iOS forums and Android tablet forums

However, taking that approach here with Tablets only and not PCs seems unbalanced IMO. Under this new organizational logic PC hardware should be similarly sorted according to distinguishing characteristics / design,.....IMO.

Re: Tablet Discussions

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:32:21 EDT

signmeuptoo posted : A forum title is a welcome mat to those on the googles searching for help, knowledge, and comraderei. My point isn't segregation, that has an unpleasant connotation, kinda word science. What I am saying is that a forum mission tailored to welcoming discussion is needed.

What is the title of this forum? Does that welcome tablet owners? In their google/bing/yahoo searches, will micro computer builders or tablet owner come here, is the forum mission clear and inviting?

But if the forums were layed out in response to today's trends, maybe they won't fizzle out. Segregation? What an awful spin on what I'm trying to suggest, no offense, but that is kinda word spin.
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:58:11 EDT

Octavean posted : Well I'm not suggesting that nothing should be done but I am suggesting uniformity. If something is done, like to an equation for example, one should do the same thing to both sides of the equation.

said by signmeuptoo:

My instincts are that if we just leave things as is, at some point things will devolve for PC discussions and people will drift away from this forum and, much as like what has happened to the overclocking forum, it will more or less die.

Or... We get with the program, and, well, ACT!

I hear what you are saying and I don't think anyone here wants to see that happen with respect to the PC forum fading way. However, action one way or the other doesn't guarantee that wont happen anyway. Interest in traditional computers seems to have stopped growing and seems to be dissipating. Segregating forums wont have any effect on this trend,...

Re: Tablet Discussions

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:20:57 EDT

signmeuptoo posted : Well, I guess that with PCs, they ARE already divided by OS, which is what I am suggesting under a master forum for tablets. Dividing tablets or PCs by hardware is just too difficult to do I think, example: I just ordered my first factory build in 18 years, a Lenovo laptop, a G580. When I say G580, it can mean lots of things, Windows 7, or maybe 8; Intel Pentium, or maybe i3, or maybe i5; Blue, black, Brown, and on and on. Very confusing when I tried to get reviews of it.

Now OTOH, a system running Linux, if it isn't a hardware issue, we take it to all things *nix...

Yes, we can be defeatist and say "oh, it's too difficult, let's do nothing and just see what happens" but doing nothing isn't usually a good idea in business. Failing to act can be fatal for a business.

The thing is, perhaps a revamp: a General computer forum, with sub forums of "Windows or Linux Desktop" "Apple Desktop and laptop" "Windows Laptop" "Windows tablet" "Apple Tablet" "other OS tablet" and finally "micro and other computing".

My instincts are that if we just leave things as is, at some point things will devolve for PC discussions and people will drift away from this forum and, much as like what has happened to the overclocking forum, it will more or less die.

Or... We get with the program, and, well, ACT!
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 09:31:05 EDT

Octavean posted :

said by signmeuptoo:

So? Look at PCs. There is a WIDE variety, from laptops of hundreds of forms, factory builds, home builds, but when I saw to someone "PC Computer" they instantly understand what I am saying. I think, despite any obfuscation, that saying "tablet" gives people a clear idea of what I am talking about as well. Sorry, I disagree, but disagreement doesn't mean the end of a good friendship, right? Anyways, I stand firm in that I feel we need a tablet forum and sub forums.

Point taken,...

I will say that in the past there have been companies that attempted to sell computers as something else. Selling the computer at a loss to gain revenue elsewhere. Upon discovery that the product was actually a computer some people buy up the low priced computers and use them as such destroying or damaging the business model the company had intended.

The original Xbox was essentially an Intel Pentium III based computer and some people used it as such. The original Apple TV could be made to run OS X,.....and so on,...

The point I am trying to make here is that just because something doesn't look like a traditional computer doesn't mean that it isn't. PC tablets (x86 / x64) are IMO traditional computers,....

My Asus Eee Slate EP121 Core i5 based PC tablet has more in common and is more akin to a laptops or even desktop (in components and design) then what most people consider to be a traditional tablet (ARM based). The form factor shouldn't fool people but apparently I does,....

Now if all tablets should have their own forum and or sub-forum then by extension the "PC Hardware Discussion/Reviews" forum should be subdivided as well. The reason I say this is because how then can you have netbooks, laptops, ultrabooks, desktops DIY, desktops OEM, mini desktops, All-In-Ones and so on swimming around in the same forum? If you divide and subdivide one forum why then should you not divided and subdivide the other forum?

Re: Tablet Discussions

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:45:54 EDT

anon posted : Tablets also combinations of some parts and easy to move and have a functionality of portability therefore it is in use an and perform almost all task.

Re: Tablet Discussions

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:08:03 EDT

nonymous posted : Qatar's
On functionality and use a tablet will do almost as much as a pc. He k we finally went to smart phones. Mys wife got a samsung note 2 She loves. Now uses it more than the pc. So yes a tablet will cut into the same market as a pc for some. With windows 8 ms is betting a pc will act more like a large tablet. K

Re: Tablet Discussions

Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:52:47 EDT

signmeuptoo posted : So? Look at PCs. There is a WIDE variety, from laptops of hundreds of forms, factory builds, home builds, but when I saw to someone "PC Computer" they instantly understand what I am saying. I think, despite any obfuscation, that saying "tablet" gives people a clear idea of what I am talking about as well. Sorry, I disagree, but disagreement doesn't mean the end of a good friendship, right? Anyways, I stand firm in that I feel we need a tablet forum and sub forums.
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:33:41 EDT

Octavean posted : It would be much easier to calculate taxes if the government didn't insist on collecting them in the first place. The easiest solution isn't always the right one.

A PC tablet (x86 / x64) is just as much a PC as a desktop, laptop or All-In-One system IMO but I don't see anyone insisting that there be different forms for all of the above.....although some forums may very well do this.

It's easy to lump all tablets together but it lacks subtlety and possibly understanding of how different they can be.

Re: Tablet Discussions

Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:21:05 EDT

signmeuptoo posted : Well, I think it would make deciding where a thread goes MUCH easier if all tablets had their own forum, with sub forums for the different OSs, much as VOIP has provider sub forums.

I am sorry, but I felt a little pressured from the comment. I really appreciate that this thread was created, and I thank the mod heartily for that, and with that said, I think giving a discreet forum, for the benefit of easier moderation work, might be a better justification for some rather than the perceived deleterious effect that tablets are having on PC sales.

I realize that my feelings can stir a reaction from some that I am asserting an "us versus them" thing, but in actuality, it's just that tablets are tablets, not really PCs, and that will become clearer as time progresses. For the enhancement of gaining more traffic to DSLR, a dedicated tablet head forum with sub forums for the different OSs might be a big bonus for the site owners, it could become the go-to place for tablets, much like this forum is one of the go-to places for home builders.
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:48:57 EDT

Octavean posted : That's a great example. Perhaps you meant it as a rhetorical question but I'd be willing to venture an answer:

Q) Where do you put Microsoft's "Surface"

A) I would first attempt to be sure if you were referring to the Microsoft "Surface" running Windows RT on ARM or the Microsoft "Surface Pro" running Windows 8 Pro on x86 / x64. I think Microsoft added a degree of confusion when using the term "Surface" and a lot of people have difficulty making the distinction or perhaps don't even know its more then one device.

Re: Tablet Discussions

Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:04:42 EDT

me1212 posted :

said by Octavean:

***edit***

BTW, I think some Ti calculators could run PDA programs which would have been a big deal to some geeks before the whole smart phone thing took off,.....

You can put doom on some Ti calculators.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsN2JIRGHAo

On topic, I can see an ARM forum possibly being good.

Re: Tablet Discussions

Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:34:14 EDT

dbmaven posted : First - you nailed my thoughts about leaving this available to express thoughts. Thank you.

Second - the problem with definitions - real or perceived - about a "subject area" is that it's like trying to drive a nail through Jell-O.
What we've seen over 20 years, and which we will continue to see, is the constant morphing of what hardware/devices people use to perform "computing".

A classic example - where do you put Microsoft's "Surface" ?
Do you exclude it because it's not a "traditional PC" ?
Do you include it because it can run x86 programs (Windows 8)?
Is it a tablet - or is it a laptop?
Do you discuss it in "Microsoft Help" because their name is on it?

It's all pretty vague - and it doesn't "fit" cleanly anywhere.

Those kinds of things are only going to increase in the future...
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:48:00 EDT

El Quintron posted :

said by Octavean:

Ahhh,....remember Palm OS PDAs,......? ;)

I do, I wanted one pretty bad.
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:43:03 EDT

Octavean posted : Yeah, I hear you,...

I guess making the distinction between the different types of tables makes things clear for me but many people think "tablet" and automatically think "iPad".

These ARM devices are pervasive though,.....

My thinking is if you allow discussion of ARM based tablets here then there is little reason to exclude ARM based MP3 players or ARM based phones. They are very similar devises with the only real difference being the inclusion of a cellular subsystem (in the case of a phone and some tablets).

I just think it has the potential to be,.....messy.

I have an Asus Eee EP121 Intel Core i5 based PC Tablet running Windows 8 Pro RTM. There is no question in my mind that it is a PC. Having a touch screen and no physical keyboard doesn't change what it is.

I also have an Apple iPad 3rd gen, HP Touchpad (2x one running Android), Kindle Fire, iPod Touch, and iPhone but I don't really consider any of that suitable for this forum. If I could get Windows RT to run on one of my HP Touchpads I still wouldn't think it a suitable discussion for this forum but then I also wouldn't know where at DSLR it would be suitable,....

***edit***

BTW, I think some Ti calculators could run PDA programs which would have been a big deal to some geeks before the whole smart phone thing took off,.....

Ahhh,....remember Palm OS PDAs,......? ;)

Re: Tablet Discussions

Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:23:47 EDT

El Quintron posted :

said by Octavean:

I still don't think of it as a traditional computer and I don't think its what people had in mind when the "PC Hardware Discussion/Reviews" forum was formed.

But again I don't feel all that strongly about it either way,.....

For what it's worth I don't think discussions about Android, Windows or OSX/iOS are appropriate for this forum, but most tablets have cpus, gpus, internal hardrives and RAM, and some have more power than others.

I think Spec comparisons and value conversations would (in my mind) be appropriate for this forum.
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:15:23 EDT

Octavean posted :

said by signmeuptoo:

Sorry, but I disagree, which is my right. If we can't give feedback on the direction a forum is going, what good is the site. So your a moderator, does that mean I have to do what you ordain? I am making a reasonable assertion here, please don't use your position to prevent discussion on this. I think it is reasonable to want to have a special forum for a new trend. VOIP is PC releated, but we have a VOIP forum. Macintoshes are PCs of a sort, but we have an Apple forum. I feel like I am being bullied here.

With all due respect, I'll simply point out that dbmaven seems to be doing everything reasonable to give this subject and those of whom that wish to speak on it a voice. Starting this thread was a good idea IMO. I think people are more then welcome to express there thoughts and ideas on this subject here,...

said by dbmaven:

Computer: an electronic device designed to accept data, perform prescribed mathematical and logical operations at high speed, and display the results of these operations.

There's more computing power in my tablet than I had to write complex business applications on years ago. As each generation of processor advances, the capabilities of smaller and smaller devices grows.

Simple solution - if you don't want to discuss tablets - move on to the next thread. Nothing's forcing anyone to read, or join in the discussion - on tablets or other computing devices.

I wont dispute the above definition of a computer. However, I do believe that such a definition can still apply to devices that do not fit the traditional mindset of a PC for most people in this forum.

For example, when I was an Electrical Engineering student a graphing calculator was basically a requirement. Most students at that time in my college chose the Ti-82 but there were some different models about.

Anyway, the Ti-82 could link to other Ti-82 models and share data, you could write programs to run on it, it could display some surprisingly advanced graphics and naturally it could perform advanced mathematical / logical operations,.....

For all I know the Ti-82 may have more computational power then whatever they were using to get to the moon. I still don't think of it as a traditional computer and I don't think its what people had in mind when the "PC Hardware Discussion/Reviews" forum was formed.

But again I don't feel all that strongly about it either way,.....

If some new advancements were made in ARM tech I might be tempted to post it here but that would be more due to not knowing what the most appropriate place would be,...

Re: Tablet Discussions

Wed, 13 Feb 2013 05:33:12 EDT

norwegian posted : I think they are a form on their own, and in due course the need for a forum specific will evolve I have no qualms about.
Even at that point in time when it does happen, the hardware of them is still worth a discussion here; however due to the inflexibility of modding them, topics will be low in volume here anyway I would think.

Which ever way it goes I don't think it will bother me, even when feeling in 2 minds about liking or disliking them. I see the purpose of them but do not see the need for using one.

I gave my daughter the tool of an apple computer instead of the iPad, there were too many bonuses of the computer. Tablets are limited still in their application. Give it time; if the scales tip that balance of hardware/software/size enough, who knows.

Apple II and IBM 386 were a lot different to anything now. :)
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:38:58 EDT

dbmaven posted : Bullied?
Really?

All I did was offer you a simple solution that's available to anyone - ignore the stuff you're not interested in. Just because I'm a moderator makes that "bullying"? I, too, am allowed to express my opinion - and that's all that was.

VOIP has nothing to do with PCs - it's about networking/the Internet. And while MACs are certainly PCs in every sense of the word, they are a pervasive subset of the universe of PCs - different enough, and with enough volume - to warrant a separate forum.

If you feel so strongly about this - start a thread in »Forum Feature Requests
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:28:21 EDT

signmeuptoo posted : Sorry, but I disagree, which is my right. If we can't give feedback on the direction a forum is going, what good is the site. So your a moderator, does that mean I have to do what you ordain? I am making a reasonable assertion here, please don't use your position to prevent discussion on this. I think it is reasonable to want to have a special forum for a new trend. VOIP is PC releated, but we have a VOIP forum. Macintoshes are PCs of a sort, but we have an Apple forum. I feel like I am being bullied here.
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:20:26 EDT

dbmaven posted : Computer: an electronic device designed to accept data, perform prescribed mathematical and logical operations at high speed, and display the results of these operations.

There's more computing power in my tablet than I had to write complex business applications on years ago. As each generation of processor advances, the capabilities of smaller and smaller devices grows.

Simple solution - if you don't want to discuss tablets - move on to the next thread. Nothing's forcing anyone to read, or join in the discussion - on tablets or other computing devices.
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:07:48 EDT

signmeuptoo posted : I think, for me, a computer is something that sits on a desktop or table or lap, and one does real work on, not superfluous texting and facebooking. Tablets don't deserve the honorific of being allowed here. Sure, they have their place, but, personally, I want to see this forum remain a haven for PC hardware enthusiasts for at least a few more years.

Am I saying you can't do real work on a tablet? No, of course not, yes, you can, but I wouldn't want to write thousands of lines of code, for instance, using a capacitive screen keyboard, when a real hardware keyboard and processor can do it much better, faster, and efficiently.

I think we need a general tablet forum, along with a Droid and Apple forums. But I feel it is heresy to talk about them here as they are the bane of the PC's existence.
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Thu, 07 Feb 2013 23:22:08 EDT

nonymous posted : So you can only have a PC if it is x86/ x64? What about a rasperry pi?

Re: Tablet Discussions

Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:39:06 EDT

El Quintron posted :

said by Octavean:

I hear what you are saying but I make a distinction about a tablet based on if it is ARM or x86 / x64 based. If its ARM I don't consider it a PC AKA Personal Computer,...for which this forum is named. If its x86 / x64 based I consider it a PC tablet and a PC is a PC regardless of form-factor.

Its not that big of a deal to me either way though.

True... my only beef with not talking about ARM based tablets is that the discussion of what's inside a particular tablet doesn't necessarily belong in the Android forum.

I'm all for keeping it open regarding specs and tablet ram/gpus etc.
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Re: Tablet Discussions

Thu, 07 Feb 2013 18:49:10 EDT

Octavean posted :

said by El Quintron:

Tablets do have hardware in them... even if it ain't customizable, I think discussions of Hardware Spec inside said tablet is entirely appropriate for this forum...

Re: Tablet Discussions

Thu, 07 Feb 2013 14:32:05 EDT

El Quintron posted : Tablets do have hardware in them... even if it ain't customizable, I think discussions of Hardware Spec inside said tablet is entirely appropriate for this forum...
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Re: which tablet to get

Thu, 07 Feb 2013 11:14:30 EDT

Octavean posted :

said by signmeuptoo:

I move that tablet discussions be forever barred from the computer hardware forum. Tablets are the enemy of desktop technology. Take this to the Android or apple forums, please!

I have nothing against tablets as I have a few but if they want to discuss ARM based tablets I agree that some other forum would likely be better.

Re: which tablet to get

Thu, 07 Feb 2013 10:16:09 EDT

SysOp posted : time to start an ad-Hoc forum for tablet hardware reviews and discussions?

Tablet Discussions

Thu, 07 Feb 2013 01:50:10 EDT

signmeuptoo posted : I move that tablet discussions be forever barred from the computer hardware forum. Tablets are the enemy of desktop technology. Take this to the Android or apple forums, please!