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Frank_IT
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join:2003-11-01
Montreal
reply to SpykeYs

Re: [Internet] Fibe 50/50 + Fibe TV - How to add my own router i

Good day,

I have FTTH and had done the same thing as you, with some difference..

I still have the Sagemcom, but for the TV only. There was no pppoe setted in my "connection hub", as I dont mind if my
tv doesnt have internet for the applications.

My router, a juniper ssg140 was connected into the port 2. From my router, I had setted it to negociate the pppoe. So the
Sagemcom bridge it.

Then, from my juniper, I had a switch connected to it for my lan.

I mention "was", because my setup had changed a little bit recently. But that way, it work.. even since Bell had change their
one login only.
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Frank_IT
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I forgot to mention.. I have IPTV.. so coaxguy, telling that we cannot if we have IPTV.. its not true..
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coaxguy

join:2009-07-29
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said by Frank_IT:

I forgot to mention.. I have IPTV.. so coaxguy, telling that we cannot if we have IPTV.. its not true..

I did not say he cannot have IPTV, I said if he resets the Sagemcom and wipes out the settings, he will not have IPTV.

I guarantee if you go into your connection hub Marshall, 192.168.2.1, and click on INTERNET on the left, your b1 and password will be there. Regardless if you let your own router after the fact also connect via pppoe is fine as Bell allows double login.

Without the connection hub doing the PPPOE, it will not authorize the Bell receivers for FibeTV via ethernet or HPNA


Frank_IT
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Montreal
Its not true for FTTH.

There is a login for IPTV using pppoe, on FTTN...

on FTTH, the iptv portion use DHCP to get the stream.
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Seb851
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join:2010-07-12
Sainte-Marthe-Sur-Le-Lac, QC
said by Frank_IT:

Its not true for FTTH.

There is a login for IPTV using pppoe, on FTTN...

on FTTH, the iptv portion use DHCP to get the stream.

Ty est certain de cela ??
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Frank_IT
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join:2003-11-01
Montreal

Avec les tests que je fais depuis un temps pour remplacer le Connection Hub meme pour le Tivi, oui j'en suis TRES certain.

Seb851
Future Shop Staff

join:2010-07-12
Sainte-Marthe-Sur-Le-Lac, QC
said by Frank_IT:

certain a 100%


Je viens de voir l'option dans le Sagemcom lol
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morisato

join:2008-03-16
Oshawa, ON
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reply to Frank_IT
said by Frank_IT:

Its not true for FTTH.

There is a login for IPTV using pppoe, on FTTN...

on FTTH, the iptv portion use DHCP to get the stream.

Thats Backwards Marshal, On Fttn its DHCP, On FTTH its PPOE for the fibetv 36 session. Either that or both are DHCP, easy way to tell is to click advanced settings >TV in your modem and take note if its PPPOE or DHCP is ticked.
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Frank_IT
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Montreal
Ok, so you're telling me that I dont know what I saw at home? I have FTTH at home..

I will take a screenshot when I'll get home.. you'll see..
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morisato

join:2008-03-16
Oshawa, ON
reply to morisato
Wait Now i remeber, On a Stinger You have to use PPOE for FTTN, on a 7330 Its DHCP> thats the difference brain fart P:)
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Frank_IT
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:P


coaxguy

join:2009-07-29
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reply to Frank_IT
Damn, I forgot it said FTTH, you are right. Sorry Marshal. Forgot about the other modem converting the fiber and then plugs into the WAN port on the Sagemcom.

Spyke, I stand corrected. You have 2 options like Marshal said, you can reset the Sagemcom if you wish.

I personally am on FTTN and have it set up the way I said above. Seeing as you want to flash your Asus and put custom firmware on, I would still suggest doing it the way I said. I have had flaky performance when DDWRT was doing the pppoe connection, which is why I let the Sagemcom do the work.

I use Tomato, shibby version. I needed OpenVPN as well

Here is a pic of what I mean for MAC reservation. Its to ensure the Sagemcom ALWAYS assigns the same IP to the Asus N66U.




Then I go to the DMZ tab at the top and enable 192.168.2.10 (the asus) to work under DMZ. Ive not had an issue this way, and I get my full speed. (25/10)

pmcdunnough

join:2012-02-03
reply to Frank_IT
IPTV requires that DHCP sends out the ip's and Bell DNS #'s to the boxes connected to the TV's. How could you get around this for the home LAN? You need the Sagecom as the gateway and there doesn't seem to be an obvious way of stopping the Sagecom from forwarding the Bell DNS #'s to the devices on your network. I have been trying to do this with a router connected somehow to the Sagecom but it's not obvious how to set this up if the LAN is wired into the Sagecom.

philip


coaxguy

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said by pmcdunnough:

IPTV requires that DHCP sends out the ip's and Bell DNS #'s to the boxes connected to the TV's. How could you get around this for the home LAN? You need the Sagecom as the gateway and there doesn't seem to be an obvious way of stopping the Sagecom from forwarding the Bell DNS #'s to the devices on your network. I have been trying to do this with a router connected somehow to the Sagecom but it's not obvious how to set this up if the LAN is wired into the Sagecom.

philip

Not in this case.

The topic creator is on Fiber to the HOME. There is a device called a optical network terminal that's placed BEFORE the Sagemcom modem/router. This connected to the Bell network first and handles the handshake. An ethernet cable is run from this to the red WAN port on the Sagemcom.

So in this case, the Sagemcom could be bridged and the IPTV will work fine as the ONT is doing the handshaking.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N3lim_tmm8

pmcdunnough

join:2012-02-03
Thanks for the explanation. I didn't realize that Fibre to the Home had a different connection scheme. Have only ever seen FTTN...

philip


Frank_IT
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reply to coaxguy
Its not really the best setup i've seen!
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Rigor_M

join:2010-09-26
Quebec, QC
said by Frank_IT:

Its not really the best setup i've seen!

yeah, the tech did a number on this one !

I got my ONT and the battery backup on a piece of plywood on the wall and the sagemcom on computer rack just beside the wall.

The tech should of done a better job on your install.


news

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said by Rigor_M:

said by Frank_IT:

Its not really the best setup i've seen!

yeah, the tech did a number on this one !

I got my ONT and the battery backup on a piece of plywood on the wall and the sagemcom on computer rack just beside the wall.

The tech should of done a better job on your install.

In the video, the bell equipment is hidden inside a cabinet where is located the power panel. There's not much room near the power panel, where did you expect the equipment installed??? Personally, I wouldn't want the equipment on my wall, it's not really esthetic, ask your wife or girlfriend about that... It's not like the equipment was installed in a unfinished basement...


Rigor_M

join:2010-09-26
Quebec, QC
said by news :

In the video, the bell equipment is hidden inside a cabinet where is located the power panel. There's not much room near the power panel, where did you expect the equipment installed??? Personally, I wouldn't want the equipment on my wall, it's not really esthetic, ask your wife or girlfriend about that... It's not like the equipment was installed in a unfinished basement...

I'll admit that not everyone wnats it on the wall.. I got mine in my office.. my girlfriend could't care less where it was as long as it work when she need it.. I'm a tech guy so I like it on the wall

But, you have to admit that its a mess in there.. the tech could of mounted it on the door.. there seem to be some space in front of the electrical panel.

my 2¢.