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Re: Microsoft Security Essentials flunks independent test said by Mele20: Windows Defender on Win 8 is NOT MSE on Win 7 and earlier. @Microsoft: quote: In Windows 8 and Windows RT, Windows Defender provides the same level of protection against malware as Microsoft Security Essentials.
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 QuaffAPintA Big Thanks To The Troops join:2001-01-10 Downingtown, PA | reply to Oleg I scanned 3 different computers that used MSE with MalwareBytes, and all 3 came up with something - each different. It certainly is a good reminder to have more than one thing protecting you. |
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 Mele20Premium join:2001-06-05 Hilo, HI kudos:4 2 edits | Malwarebytes Anti Malware.
»www.malwarebytes.org/
People here seem to love it. I don't like any program that tries to force me to use download.com. I immediately suspect a program that is run SO POORLY that they hope you get a virus from downloading it from that horrble site that is virus ridden and then they can impress you with detection.
I have used it in the past and it finds only a bunch of FP's. I don't respect programs that do that. It may have stopped doing that as I haven't used in in several years...but it is a HUGE PUT OFF AND RED FLAG to click on "download now" on Malwarebytes website only to be taken to "download.com". I have to put garbage site "download.com" in my hosts file. |
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 | Yes unfortunately MalwareBytes a few years ago made the really annoying download.com link the only link easily clicked on. Before then it was easy to find another mirror. So these days if I need it I end up downloading it from one of the big reputable software mirroring sites like Major Geeks. |
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 | reply to chachazz said by chachazz:said by Mele20: Windows Defender on Win 8 is NOT MSE on Win 7 and earlier. @Microsoft: quote: In Windows 8 and Windows RT, Windows Defender provides the same level of protection against malware as Microsoft Security Essentials.
Indeed. They are the same engine and virus definitions. If you go to Help and About for any of the MS products you'll find that they use the same engine version and usually even have the same or very close client version numbers.
»blogs.technet.com/b/clientsecuri···012.aspx
quote: All Microsoft Antimalware protection clients listed below will be using the same underlying technologies and offer the same level of protection: SCEP SP1 FEP with Update Rollup 1 + future update Windows Defender included with Windows 8 MSE
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 NhbassUpside Down JeepPremium join:2001-01-15 Nashua, NH | reply to Mele20 Malwarebytes, and most other software of that type can be downloaded from BleepingComputer. |
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 Mele20Premium join:2001-06-05 Hilo, HI kudos:4 | Thank you! I had forgotten about downloading from BleepingComputer. |
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 Mele20Premium join:2001-06-05 Hilo, HI kudos:4 | reply to Nhbass said by Nhbass:Malwarebytes, and most other software of that type can be downloaded from BleepingComputer. I can't find ANYWHERE to download the FREE version. Every site downloads a trial of the Pro version. Where do I get the free version? (Besides Download.com).
EVERY AV is getting to be shit trying to force toolbars on folks or forcing a trial of a Pro version. If Malwarebytes doesn't want anyone using the free version then they should not offer it. -- When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
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 NhbassUpside Down JeepPremium join:2001-01-15 Nashua, NH | reply to Oleg
There is a box to uncheck that turns the Pro trial off just before the program launches for the first time. Don't have a screen shot handy at the moment, but it is after the install. The 3 check boxes are "Launch Pro trial", "Update Definitions", and "Launch MalwareBytes" (or words to that effect). All are checked by default and you are NOT required to use the Pro trial at all.
Found a screen shot of the old version, new version adds the Pro trial option. |
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 OlegBellsouth FastaccessPremium join:2003-12-08 Birmingham, AL kudos:2 | Here is an official website »www.malwarebytes.org/ |
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 NhbassUpside Down JeepPremium join:2001-01-15 Nashua, NH | reply to Oleg I think OP's point was even the MB home page points to an external download link and not directly from MB. |
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 OlegBellsouth FastaccessPremium join:2003-12-08 Birmingham, AL kudos:2 | said by Nhbass:I think OP's point was even the MB home page points to an external download link and not directly from MB. I see what you are saying now. You right it redirects you to »www.techspot.com In this case i would get it from filehippo.com »www.filehippo.com/download_malwa···malware/ i never have had problems with them. |
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 | reply to newview As far as the pop-ups, you can set Avast to Silent mode right in the settings (Settings -> Silent / Gaming Mode)
Can't help on avoiding the Chrome nag, though. |
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MSE and the open source ClamAV (real-time protection added with Clam Sentinel) might be the only truly free AV's for Windows (no foistware), but both have such poor detection rates in tests that I don't plan on reinstalling MSE any time soon. |
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 | reply to Mele20 said by Mele20:Malwarebytes Anti Malware.
»www.malwarebytes.org/
People here seem to love it. I don't like any program that tries to force me to use download.com. I immediately suspect a program that is run SO POORLY that they hope you get a virus from downloading it from that horrble site that is virus ridden and then they can impress you with detection.
I have used it in the past and it finds only a bunch of FP's. I don't respect programs that do that. It may have stopped doing that as I haven't used in in several years...but it is a HUGE PUT OFF AND RED FLAG to click on "download now" on Malwarebytes website only to be taken to "download.com". I have to put garbage site "download.com" in my hosts file. Another generally well regarded free malware cleaner that doesn't pull download.com shenanigans is SuperAntiSpyware, it has a direct download link from their site. »www.superantispyware.com/download.html But I think the general consensus is that MalwareBytes is better at its job. |
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 Mele20Premium join:2001-06-05 Hilo, HI kudos:4 1 edit | Yes, SuperAntiSpyware is excellent also. I have it on my XP computer. I should put it on this new Win 8 computer also. Thanks for reminding me.
OOPS!!!! Superantispyware DOES NOT WORK ON WINDOWS 8!
VERY FEW SECURITY PROGRAMS WORK ON WINDOWS 8. I always thought I would get Online Armor once I could not use ProcessGuard but it does NOT work on Windows 8. No wonder so many use Windows Defender even if it doesn't provide very good protection.
-- When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
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 OlegBellsouth FastaccessPremium join:2003-12-08 Birmingham, AL kudos:2 | What is Windows 8 ? |
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 | reply to Mele20 Huh, says it is. I can't see why it wouldn't be Win 8 compatible. »www.superantispyware.com/support···ml?faq=6 People report it working on Win8 if you google it too. |
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 Mele20Premium join:2001-06-05 Hilo, HI kudos:4 | reply to Nhbass said by Nhbass:There is a box to uncheck that turns the Pro trial off just before the program launches for the first time. Don't have a screen shot handy at the moment, but it is after the install. The 3 check boxes are "Launch Pro trial", "Update Definitions", and "Launch MalwareBytes" (or words to that effect). All are checked by default and you are NOT required to use the Pro trial at all.
Found a screen shot of the old version, new version adds the Pro trial option. No, I have tried SIX TIMES FROM DIFFERENT DOWNLOAD SITES and ALL install the Pro trial version. There is NO way to decline the trial!
Either Malwarebytes is LYING about there being a free version or the ONLY way to get it is via malwareridden download.com site. Every other site installs the Pro version as a trial and no way to decline that.
Plus, it like most antimalware software evidently does not work on Win 8 anyway. The only way to run it is to open Windows Explorer and go to Program files. It says it installs Start menu item, Quick Launch, Desktop link, etc. It doesn't do ANY of those. I have Start8 so it should be in the Start list but it isn't. Windows 8 has an equivalent to Quick Launch (on the Desktop) but it was not in that list either.
That is a very bad decision to force a trial of the paid version on folks. -- When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
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