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<description><![CDATA[DrDrew posted : I didn't get it from download.com<br><br>If you read the FAQ you can also get it here:<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://downloads.malwarebytes.org/file/mbam" >downloads.malwarebytes.org/file/mbam</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/701677" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=701677');">SpHeRe31459</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/722308" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=722308');">Rexter</a>:</said><p>I haven't seen any yet. I'd say you were given false information. It's built on the longhorn core just like Windows 7, and Vista. It's all Windows 6.x.<br> </p></div>Exactly<br> </p></div>Then why do the majority of security programs NOT work on Win 8? Since you haven't seen any yet that must mean you don't use security programs. <br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1616010" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1616010');">DrDrew</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/403861" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=403861');">Mele20</a>:</said><p>No, I have tried SIX TIMES FROM DIFFERENT DOWNLOAD SITES and ALL install the Pro trial version. There is NO way to decline the trial! <br> </p></div>I just installed it from the site Malwarebytes directed me to. Got the free version, which shows the options Pro has but they aren't available unless I go through the upgrade process so, it's not the Pro trial. A trial is where it's available for a limited time.<br><br>Works fine for me.<br> </p></div>You proved my point! Thank you! Malwarebytes is a cynical asshole. They force you to use download.com if you want to get the free version. They know download.com should be avoided at all costs and never used and never recommended. The site has a very long history of installing INFECTED software FREQUENTLY.  Malwarebytes knows this. So, they must hope users get infected at download.com because they will likely use it for other downloads also and then Malwarebytes can prove how essential it is for the user to have. :(<br><br>Everywhere else it is the Pro version and it has buy button on it and says "trial" on it. A antimalware vendor that refuses to let you get the program from them is either already a bad program or on the way the down. <br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[SpHeRe31459 posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/722308" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=722308');">Rexter</a>:</said><p>I haven't seen any yet. I'd say you were given false information. It's built on the longhorn core just like Windows 7, and Vista. It's all Windows 6.x.<br> </p></div>Exactly]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Dustyn posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/910278" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=910278');">Oleg</a>:</said><p>What is Windows 8  :p?<br> </p></div>The new Windows Me.  ;)<br>In regards to previous excellent releases Microsoft did a great job with (Windows NT 4, Windows 2000, Windows XP and Windows 7) I <i>usualy</i> wait until at least SP1 came out.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[DrDrew posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/403861" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=403861');">Mele20</a>:</said><p>No, I have tried SIX TIMES FROM DIFFERENT DOWNLOAD SITES and ALL install the Pro trial version. There is NO way to decline the trial! <br> </p></div>I just installed it from the site Malwarebytes directed me to. Got the free version, which shows the options Pro has but they aren't available unless I go through the upgrade process so, it's not the Pro trial. A trial is where it's available for a limited time.<br><br>Works fine for me.<br><small>--<br>Two is one, one is none. If it's important, back it up... <A HREF="http://stopthecap.com/2010/12/27/hawaiian-telcom-phone-lines-and-dsl-broadband-go-dead-for-days-because-it-rained/">Somethimes 99.999% availability isn't even good enough.</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Rexter posted : I haven't seen any yet. I'd say you were given false information. It's built on the longhorn core just like Windows 7, and Vista. It's all Windows 6.x.<br><small>--<br>I'm with the Central Government. I'm here to help you. Now bend over, really, I'm helping you, just, just stay still. You'll feel better in a moment.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:50:09 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/701677" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=701677');">SpHeRe31459</a>:</said><p>Huh, says it is. I can't see why it wouldn't be Win 8 compatible.<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.superantispyware.com/supportfaqdisplay.html?faq=6" >www.superantispyware.com/support&middot;&middot;&middot;ml?faq=6</A><br>People report it working on Win8 if you google it too.<br> </p></div>Nick needs to fix the main page then...which says copyright 2013 but someone forgot to add Win 8 there.  :o<br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small><div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/28001958?c=2074051&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IyNzk5MTgxNS54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="11895 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=231 SRC="/r0/download/2074051.thumb600~1382d9c803c67517ba7bf57c072d0b72/Monday, February 11, 2013 16;55;29001.png/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/287213" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=287213');">Nhbass</a>:</said><p>There is a box to uncheck that turns the Pro trial off just before the program launches for the first time. Don't have a screen shot handy at the moment, but it is after the install. The 3 check boxes are "Launch Pro trial", "Update Definitions", and "Launch MalwareBytes" (or words to that effect). All are checked by default and you are NOT required to use the Pro trial at all.<br><br>Found a screen shot of the old version, new version adds the Pro trial option.<br> </p></div>No, I have tried SIX TIMES FROM DIFFERENT DOWNLOAD SITES and ALL install the Pro trial version. There is NO way to decline the trial! <br><br>Either Malwarebytes is LYING about there being a free version or the ONLY way to get it is via malwareridden download.com site.  Every other site installs the Pro version as a trial and no way to decline that.<br><br>Plus, it like most antimalware software evidently does not work on Win 8 anyway. The only way to run it is to open Windows Explorer and go to Program files. It says it installs Start menu item, Quick Launch, Desktop link, etc. It doesn't do ANY of those.  I have Start8 so it should be in the Start list but it isn't. Windows 8 has an equivalent to Quick Launch (on the Desktop) but it was not in that list either. <br><br>That is a very bad decision to force a trial of the paid version on folks.<br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[SpHeRe31459 posted : Huh, says it is. I can't see why it wouldn't be Win 8 compatible.<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.superantispyware.com/supportfaqdisplay.html?faq=6" >www.superantispyware.com/support&middot;&middot;&middot;ml?faq=6</A><br>People report it working on Win8 if you google it too.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : Yes, SuperAntiSpyware is excellent also. I have it on my XP computer. I should put it on this new Win 8 computer also. Thanks for reminding me.<br><br>OOPS!!!!  Superantispyware DOES NOT WORK ON WINDOWS 8!<br><br>VERY FEW SECURITY PROGRAMS WORK ON WINDOWS 8.  I always thought I would get Online Armor once I could not use ProcessGuard but it does NOT work on Windows 8.  No wonder so many use Windows Defender even if it doesn't provide very good protection.  <br><br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[SpHeRe31459 posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/403861" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=403861');">Mele20</a>:</said><p>Malwarebytes Anti Malware.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.malwarebytes.org/" >www.malwarebytes.org/</A><br><br>People here seem to love it. I don't like any program that tries to force me to use download.com. I immediately suspect a program that is run SO POORLY that they hope you get a virus from downloading it from that horrble site that is virus ridden and then they can impress you with detection. <br><br>I have used it in the past and it finds only a bunch of FP's. I don't respect programs that do that.  It may have stopped doing that as I haven't used in in several years...but it is a HUGE PUT OFF AND RED FLAG to click on "download now" on Malwarebytes website only to be taken to "download.com". I have to put garbage site "download.com" in my hosts file. <br> </p></div>Another generally well regarded free malware cleaner that doesn't pull download.com shenanigans is SuperAntiSpyware, it has a direct download link from their site.<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.superantispyware.com/download.html" >www.superantispyware.com/download.html</A><br>But I think the general consensus is that MalwareBytes is better at its job.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Sportscaster posted : I checked my registry and was disappointed to find that even Avast free left entries for the Google Chrome browser even though I declined it on install. Still, I find that less obnoxious than the Ask Toolbar or worse.<br><br>MSE and the open source ClamAV (real-time protection added with Clam Sentinel) might be the only truly free AV's for Windows (no foistware), but both have such poor detection rates in tests that I don't plan on reinstalling MSE any time soon.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Oleg posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/287213" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=287213');">Nhbass</a>:</said><p>I think OP's point was even the MB home page points to an external download link and not directly from MB.<br> </p></div>I see what you are saying now. You right it redirects you to &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.techspot.com" >www.techspot.com</A><br>In this case i would get it from filehippo.com &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.filehippo.com/download_malwarebytes_anti_malware/" >www.filehippo.com/download_malwa&middot;&middot;&middot;malware/</A> i never have had problems with them. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Nhbass posted : There is a box to uncheck that turns the Pro trial off just before the program launches for the first time. Don't have a screen shot handy at the moment, but it is after the install. The 3 check boxes are "Launch Pro trial", "Update Definitions", and "Launch MalwareBytes" (or words to that effect). All are checked by default and you are NOT required to use the Pro trial at all.<br><br>Found a screen shot of the old version, new version adds the Pro trial option.<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=2 WIDTH=66%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/27999114?c=2073858&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IyNzk5MTgxNS54bWw%3D"><IMG TITLE="27781 bytes" BORDER=0 WIDTH=350 HEIGHT=268 SRC="/r0/download/2073858~97a3e031ac11482d0ea321a60f25c03d/malwarebytes-download-setup-finish-tn.jpg"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/287213" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=287213');">Nhbass</a>:</said><p>Malwarebytes, and most other software of that type can be downloaded from BleepingComputer.<br> </p></div>I can't find ANYWHERE to download the FREE version. Every site downloads a trial of the Pro version. Where do I get the free version?  (Besides Download.com). <br><br>EVERY AV is getting to be shit trying to force toolbars on folks or forcing a trial of a Pro version. If Malwarebytes doesn't want anyone using the free version then they should not offer it. <br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[SpHeRe31459 posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/914341" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=914341');">chachazz</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/403861" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=403861');">Mele20</a>:</said><p> Windows Defender on Win 8 is NOT MSE on Win 7 and earlier. <br> </p></div>@Microsoft:     <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>In Windows 8 and Windows RT, Windows Defender provides the same level of protection against malware as Microsoft Security Essentials. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br> </p></div>Indeed. They are the same engine and virus definitions. If you go to Help and About for any of the MS products you'll find that they use the same engine version and usually even have the same or very close client version numbers.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://blogs.technet.com/b/clientsecurity/archive/2012/11/05/more-information-on-microsoft-antimalware-protection-on-windows-8-and-windows-server-2012.aspx" >blogs.technet.com/b/clientsecuri&middot;&middot;&middot;012.aspx</A><br><br> <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>All Microsoft Antimalware protection clients listed below will be using the same underlying technologies and offer the same level of protection:<br>&#149;SCEP SP1 <br>&#149;FEP with Update Rollup 1 + future update <br>&#149;Windows Defender included with Windows 8 <br>&#149;MSE <br><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[SpHeRe31459 posted : Yes unfortunately MalwareBytes a few years ago made the really annoying download.com link the only link easily clicked on. Before then it was easy to find another mirror. So these days if I need it I end up downloading it from one of the big reputable software mirroring sites like Major Geeks.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : Malwarebytes Anti Malware.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.malwarebytes.org/" >www.malwarebytes.org/</A><br><br>People here seem to love it. I don't like any program that tries to force me to use download.com. I immediately suspect a program that is run SO POORLY that they hope you get a virus from downloading it from that horrble site that is virus ridden and then they can impress you with detection. <br><br>I have used it in the past and it finds only a bunch of FP's. I don't respect programs that do that.  It may have stopped doing that as I haven't used in in several years...but it is a HUGE PUT OFF AND RED FLAG to click on "download now" on Malwarebytes website only to be taken to "download.com". I have to put garbage site "download.com" in my hosts file. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : You scan with what?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[QuaffAPint posted : I scanned 3 different computers that used MSE with MalwareBytes, and all 3 came up with something - each different. It certainly is a good reminder to have more than one thing protecting you.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[chachazz posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/403861" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=403861');">Mele20</a>:</said><p> Windows Defender on Win 8 is NOT MSE on Win 7 and earlier. <br> </p></div>@Microsoft:  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>In Windows 8 and Windows RT, Windows Defender provides the same level of protection against malware as Microsoft Security Essentials. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : Where are the tests for Windows Defender on Windows 8? Windows Defender on Win 8 is NOT MSE on Win 7 and earlier.  <br><br>How come AV-Test can't even be bothered to list Windows Defender on its Windows 8 test page? Of course, Win 8 has been out officially since end of October so how come NO test of ANY AV by AV-Test on Win 8 and it is now February 9?<br><br>I'd simply like to know which AV actually work on Win 8. Many CLAIM they do but if you install one, it doesn't work, it messes with your system, or it cannot be uninstalled, etc. <br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[siljaline posted : <i>Key lessons learned from the latest test results</i><br><small>16 Jan 2013 4:45 PM </small> <br><br> <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>AV-Test just published the results of their most recent antimalware vendor testing, and they didn't grant Microsoft Security Essentials and Microsoft Forefront Endpoint Protection their "AV-Test Certified" status. <br><br>We conduct a rigorous review of the results whenever test results warrant it. We take the protection of our customers very seriously, and the investments we make to do these reviews is an example of that commitment.<br><br>Our review showed that 0.0033 percent of our Microsoft Security Essentials and Microsoft Forefront Endpoint Protection customers were impacted by malware samples not detected during the test. In addition, 94 percent of the malware samples not detected during the test didn't impact our customers. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>The original MS MMPC statement based on the AV-Test findings.<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2013/01/16/lessons-learned-from-the-latest-test-results.aspx" >blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive&middot;&middot;&middot;lts.aspx</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[aussiedog posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/486895" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=486895');">newview</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/910278" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=910278');">Oleg</a>:</said><p>I am using Avast! free version, and it works great.<br> </p></div>+1<br><br>The only problem I'm experiencing with Avast right now is their persistent advertising in the systray pop-up ... and their insistence on offering the Chrome browser every damn time there is an engine update.<br> </p></div>Not really a big inconvenience. Merely turn off popups in settings. Taking care  to avoid the Google Chrome install when upgrading is certainly inconvenient.<br><small>--<br>If I can only find my keys...</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[StuartMW posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/247326" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=247326');">Rebrider</a>:</said><p>I've been on line since dial-up (?) was available and never had any infection.</p></div>Oh the irony. I've been online since 8/1994 and the only viruses I've ever had were prior to that (spread by floppy).<br><br>PS: I should add I've <i>seen</i> (detected) viruses in downloaded files etc but haven't been infected by them.<br><small>--<br>Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Rebrider posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1140294" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1140294');">Blackbird</a>:</said><p>As an example of something I suspect is more common than not, among my systems I have one computer with Eset, one with AVG-paid, two with MSE, and one very old one with Clam (admittedly online infrequently). Over the last 2-1/2 years, none of them has issued any kind of virus alert/warning, and none of those systems shows any sign of infection (either behavior-wise or following periodic manual scans using other tools like malwarebytes, etc). Looking at such experiences, how can one accurately determine by personal experience whether one of the AVs "works better" than another or assign adjectives like "OK", "great", etc?<br> </p></div>You pretty much nailed it. I've been on line since dial-up (?) was available and never had any infection. I've used them all and both AVG and Avast trashed my systems.<br>MSE works for me because the most important part of computer security is the user.<br>Let me repeat that: The single most important part of computer security is the USER!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jaykaykay posted : ++1  "I do not use Avast but instead use a four different products that for me functions as a security suite. No ads though."  My feeling is that any one that you use, if it's working for you is a winner.  I used to use Avast, but it didn't play well with some other of my choices.  So be it.  However, I also find no problems on another system, infrequently used, on which is installed MSE.  Today, one can go nuts choosing from tests.  If it works for you, used it is my motto.<br><small>--<br>JKK:-)<br><br>Age is a very high price to pay for my maturity. If I can't stay young, I can at least stay immature! <br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.pbase.com/jaykaykay" >www.pbase.com/jaykaykay</A><br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Blogger posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/486895" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=486895');">newview</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/910278" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=910278');">Oleg</a>:</said><p>I am using Avast! free version, and it works great.<br> </p></div>+1<br><br>The only problem I'm experiencing with Avast right now is their persistent advertising in the systray pop-up ... and their insistence on offering the Chrome browser every damn time there is an engine update.<br> </p></div>Not a tooting the horn of OS X but my Avast Free for that OS does nothing except its job of real-time protection, scans, and automatic definition updates. I wonder why the difference between the products for the two Operating systems. <br><br>For my Win 7 I do not use Avast but instead use a four different products that for me functions as a security suite. No ads though. <br><small>--<br>The signal is usually drowned out by the noise.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[redwolfe_98 posted : here is microsoft's response to "av-test":<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2013/01/16/lessons-learned-from-the-latest-test-results.aspx" >blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive&middot;&middot;&middot;lts.aspx</A><br><br>from the MS post:<br><br>"we found that 2 percent of these files (that were not flagged by "security essentials" ) existed across 0.003 percent of our customers"..<br><br>"We're committed to reducing our 0.0033 percent margin to zero"..]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Blackbird posted : As an example of something I suspect is more common than not, among my systems I have one computer with Eset, one with AVG-paid, two with MSE, and one very old one with Clam (admittedly online infrequently). Over the last 2-1/2 years, none of them has issued any kind of virus alert/warning, and none of those systems shows any sign of infection (either behavior-wise or following periodic manual scans using other tools like malwarebytes, etc). Looking at such experiences, how can one accurately determine by personal experience whether one of the AVs "works better" than another or assign adjectives like "OK", "great", etc?<br><small>--<br>“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.” A. de Tocqueville</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[EUS posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/486895" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=486895');">newview</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/910278" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=910278');">Oleg</a>:</said><p>I am using Avast! free version, and it works great.<br> </p></div>+1<br><br>The only problem I'm experiencing with Avast right now is their persistent advertising in the systray pop-up ... and their insistence on offering the Chrome browser every damn time there is an engine update.<br> </p></div>Don't forget the "Take our Survey", "Get Avast for Android", "who'll be President?" popups.<br><small>--<br><b><A HREF="http://www.tdprojecthope.com/"> ~ Project Hope ~ </a></b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Oleg posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/486895" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=486895');">newview</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/910278" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=910278');">Oleg</a>:</said><p>I am using Avast! free version, and it works great.<br> </p></div>+1<br><br>The only problem I'm experiencing with Avast right now is their persistent advertising in the systray pop-up ... and their insistence on offering the Chrome browser every damn time there is an engine update.<br> </p></div>I agree with you. I can't stand it ether. If it was ad for Firefox i would be cool with that :-)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[siljaline posted : <b> ~</b> Related: <b> ~ </b><br><br><ahref="http://www.infoworld.com/t/web-development/microsofts-new-web-scanning-tool-finds-companys-own-sites-lacking-212000>Microsoft's new Web-scanning tool finds company's own sites lacking</a> <br><br> ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[newview posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/910278" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=910278');">Oleg</a>:</said><p>I am using Avast! free version, and it works great.<br> </p></div>+1<br><br>The only problem I'm experiencing with Avast right now is their persistent advertising in the systray pop-up ... and their insistence on offering the Chrome browser every damn time there is an engine update.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[La Luna posted : <i> Microsoft isn&#146;t taking this lying down, however, and the company is directly challenging the AV-TEST results by saying that it can be &#147;difficult for independent anti-malware testing organizations to devise tests that are consistent with the real-world conditions.&#148; Microsoft says it has conducted its own &#147;rigorous review of the results&#148; and has found that Security Essentials holds up well compared to the industry average.</i><br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/25wwvn7">The Alien in the White House</a></b><br><br><A HREF="http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/">20,196 DEADLY TERROR ATTACKS SINCE 9/11</a></b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[lorennerol posted : I can't remember the last time I saw any antivirus program actually prevent an infection. At best they seem to just feebly wave a flag after the PC is infected, at which time I use other tools for cleanup. And since that's the case, why pay for something that doesn't work when you can get it free? McAfee in particular seems to have just thrown in the towel.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[StuartMW posted : 1. The link is 404 as posted.<br><br>2. Didn't we <a href="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r27771235-MSE-fails-AV-Test-loses-certification">do this already</a>?<br><br>. o O (Another "my A/V is better/faster/cheaper than yours thread")<br><br>Here's  Oleg <A HREF="/useremail/u/910278"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>'s link made good.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://news.yahoo.com/microsoft-security-essentials-flunks-independent-anti-virus-certification-230010197.html" >news.yahoo.com/microsoft-securit&middot;&middot;&middot;197.html</A><br><br><small>--<br>Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Oleg posted : It&#146;s hard for a security program to be considered essential when it can&#146;t win independent antivirus certifications. The Verge reports that Microsoft&#146;s (MSFT) Security Essentials anti-virus software has failed the latest certification test from the AV-TEST institute<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://news.yahoo.com/microsoft-security-essentials-flunks-" >news.yahoo.com/microsoft-securit&middot;&middot;&middot;-flunks-</A><br>independent-anti-virus-certification-230010197.html]]></description>
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