 dks7 join:2004-05-31 Omak, WA | voip.ms rate Just signed up for voip.ms and currently am using the x-lite softphone until I can get an ATA and a phone. I am curious about the rates for calling. 0.0149 for calls in the usa. Exactly how much is that per second, or per minute? Also is the price of incoming calls on my DID the same price as outgoing calls? |
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| The billing increment is 6 seconds for both inbound and outbound. Outbound calls to USA are 1.05 cents/min, inbound calls depend on your area and plan. You can get the Monthly flat rate plan with unlimited inbound, or you can get the Per minute plan where you pay between 1 cent/min to 1.49 cent/min depending on the rate center (the inbound number you choose) -- Providers (through asterisk): voip.ms, freephoneline, smartcall.ro, ipcomms, callcentric. Hardware: Vonage VDV21, Moto VT2x42, Linksys SPA series, Grandstream HT series, Panasonic KX-TGP5x0 »www.voipfan.net |
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 dks7 join:2004-05-31 Omak, WA | i notice you said i can get unlimited inbound for a flat fee, do they also do this for outbound? and if so, how much and for how many minutes?
Sorry this voip stuff is brand new to me. |
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 | VoIP.ms outbound is pay-per-minute only. If you are a very heavy phone user, you might consider "unlimited" plans such as offered by VOIPo, Phonepower, Callcentric, many others.
Or, look at the one of the "wholesale" providers that don't have big minimums, e.g. AlcazarNetworks, Voxbeam, FlowRoute . |
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 dks7 join:2004-05-31 Omak, WA | Thanks for the information. Also does anyone have any reccomendations on a super cheap cell phone model that will work with voip.ms using wifi?
I know a e71 will work per my research, but I would not mind an even cheaper model if possible. |
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·Callcentric
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| reply to Stewart I have a question related to this. I have looked at Voip.ms and it looks like the minimum upfront cost is $25 on account. Is this the same after the first time deposit or can you add lesser amounts after you first open the account. I am sure this has been asked and answered before but I cant fined it. |
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 | said by Davefred99:Is this the same after the first time deposit or can you add lesser amounts after you first open the account. For Voip.MS, when adding funds to an existing account the minimum top-up is $ 25.
This applies whether by credit card or by Paypal. |
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 | Thanks that is what I thought and why I would hesitate to use them. If I am not mistaken they add taxes to the purchase too so a $25 top up is more than just $25 too. |
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 Mangowww.toao.net join:2008-12-25 Alberta kudos:11 | GST/HST is charged only if you're Canadian.
Keep in mind that if you close your account, they'll refund the remaining balance. |
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 MartinMVoIP.msPremium,VIP join:2008-07-21 | reply to Davefred99 said by Davefred99:Thanks that is what I thought and why I would hesitate to use them. If I am not mistaken they add taxes to the purchase too so a $25 top up is more than just $25 too. You pay taxes if you're in a location where the government forces you to do so. We're a legal company.
You're in California, you won't pay any.
$25 is the minimum top off. However, your balance NEVER expires. So complaininng about that is lik ethe guy who wants to put $5 of gas in his car. You'll have to stop to the gas station earlier.
We also refund remaining unused balance on request.
We also only charges on a 6 seconds billing icnrement, the other companies DON'T do that. They c harge you 60 seconds on a 3 seconds calls.
It's incredible how much disinformation is spread around. VoIP.ms been around since 2007, there are no catches or fine prints. We're the most transparent and flexible provider available when it comes to finances. -- Martin - VoiP.ms |
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| Thanks Martin for setting me straight. I hold no personal issues with Voip.ms. I have been guilty before of purchasing only $5 worth of gas. Sometimes you just need enough to get home till you get paid. I only commented that it would make hesitate but not necessarily stop me from using voip.ms |
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 MartinMVoIP.msPremium,VIP join:2008-07-21 | said by Davefred99:Thanks Martin for setting me straight. I hold no personal issues with Voip.ms. I have been guilty before of purchasing only $5 worth of gas. Sometimes you just need enough to get home till you get paid. I only commented that it would make hesitate but not necessarily stop me from using voip.ms No offense intended fred, $25 is our minimum and we refund balance on request, and don't force anyone to a minimum usage per month. We also don't limit any of our features. You could be a business, using 50 subaccounts and our service as a PBX system, using $1 per month, and 10 months later ask to get a refund of your remaining $12 dollars. Try to get that with one of the "cheaper" providers. NOT gonna happen.
Besides, I think next monnth we'll match all inbound plans of Anveo has, minus all the crazy restrictions they have on features, just for fun. -- Martin - VoiP.ms |
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 TrimlinePremium join:2004-10-24 Windermere, FL | said by MartinM :Besides, I think next month we'll match all inbound plans of Anveo has, minus all the crazy restrictions they have on features, just for fun.
Cool. Count me in. |
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 | reply to MartinM Care to elaborate on what you mean by "match all inbound plans that Anveo has, minus all the crazy restrictions?
What are the crazy restrictions that you refer to?
I'm being totally sincere with these questions, so please don't think that I'm being a wise guy.
I'm trying to learn all that I can about the big three companies before I decide on one or two to go with on a permanent basis.
So, please expand a bit more.... |
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 | reply to MartinM said by MartinM:Besides, I think next month we'll match all inbound plans of Anveo has, minus all the crazy restrictions they have on features, just for fun. Martin, up near the top of this page, this question came up:
said by dks7:i notice you said i can get unlimited inbound for a flat fee, do they also do this for outbound? and if so, how much and for how many minutes? Many people are curious, does Voip.MS plan at any point to have flat-rate Outbound plans?
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 dbmavenThere's no shortagePremium,Mod join:1999-10-26 Sty in Sky kudos:2 | reply to Stewart
(topic move) voip.ms rate Moderator Action The post that was here (and all 3 followups to it), has been removed - too personal |
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 MartinMVoIP.msPremium,VIP join:2008-07-21 | reply to Gershom 1624
Re: voip.ms rate said by Gershom 1624 :Many people are curious, does Voip.MS plan at any point to have flat-rate Outbound plans?
Thank you.  No problem,
VoIP.ms always has been per-minute on outbound with a "value" and "premium" route since 2007.
USA Value: 1.05 Cent USA Premium: 1.25 Cent Canada Value: .5 Cent Canada Premium: 1.25
All these rates are on a 6 seconds billing increment. What that means? You call a number for 4 seconds, you get billed 6 seconds of a minute (1 tenth of the rate for each 6 seconds). Same goes for international rates. Our competitors don't match that on a per minute rate.
It's important to do the math, some people looking for flate rate find themselves saving money on a per minute basis. And that's how flat rates work, providers recuperate money with users not making full use of their flat rate plan.
For Inbound rates:
Per Minute Rate: Canada/USA - 1 cent to 1.49 cents per minute depending on number CANADIAN Toll-Free Numbers: 3.2 cents per minute, USA AND CANADA CALLERS Toll Free USA: 2.9 cents per minute USA Callers, can be unlocked for Canadian Callers, higher rate applies for Canadian callers.
Flat Rates: Canada $4.95 to 5.95 monthly depending on Rate Center USA: $4.95 to 6.95 depending on rate center
If the incoming flat rate is making anyone reading this thread change their mind about their choice of provider, I will match the competitor rate for your DID Number. Just pass me your DID Number and I'll update the monthly fee in the database. valid for new number only, not a promotion, simply a courtesy for users of this forum reading this thread. -- Martin - VoiP.ms |
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 1 edit | Just in case anybody wanted to accuse me of bias I have prepared a list of destinations where VoIP.ms is cheaper than Flowroute and Voxbeam. |
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 | reply to dks7 said by dks7:Thanks for the information. Also does anyone have any reccomendations on a super cheap cell phone model that will work with voip.ms using wifi?
I know a e71 will work per my research, but I would not mind an even cheaper model if possible. Most Android 2.1+ cell phones with WiFi work with CSipSimple.
Please be aware that it may require the use of "expert" settings in CSipSimple due to the varying interpretations/implementations by the cell phone manufacturers.
BTW - Android tablets can also be used, although it may require rooting.
said by MartinM:said by Davefred99:Thanks that is what I thought and why I would hesitate to use them. If I am not mistaken they add taxes to the purchase too so a $25 top up is more than just $25 too. You pay taxes if you're in a location where the government forces you to do so. We're a legal company. You're in California, you won't pay any. No currency conversion (US to Canadian dollars) fee, either, so the total cost is $25 and it is all applied to your account.  |
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 anveoPremium join:2010-02-08 kudos:1 | reply to MartinM said by MartinM:Besides, I think next monnth we'll match all inbound plans of Anveo has, minus all the crazy restrictions they have on features, just for fun.
Reading your statement it looks like Voip.ms will match Anveo features like * SMS support (SMS to Email, Email to SMS, SMS over SIP) * FAX support (Email to FAX, FAX to Email, FAX to HTTP) * Salesforce integration (Inbound and Outbound) * Zoho CRM integration (Inbound and Outbound) * Google Contacts integration * Google Analytics integration (Inbound and Outbound) * Call Recorder with Amazon S3 integration * Text to Speech in 16 languages  * E911 and SIP Status Alerts * Voicemail to Text transcription in 2 languages * and more and more and more
Looking forward to seeing them but I think it is NOT gonna happen. |
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