RicHSAD
join:2003-07-16
Vaudreuil-Dorion, QC | reply to MaynardKrebs
Re: The New Wireless Code Hearings. Live Stream @ 9-am She's good .. |
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The question the CRTC should ask is
If carriers were banned from selling handsets would the carriers offer
month-by-month
and
1, 2, and 3 year contracts for cell services? |
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Daniels just contradicted Bell's earlier statements that phones are being held on to for 48 months (the 'magic' ETF divisor) |
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said by MaynardKrebs:Oosterman: Canadian carriers are envy of the world.
That's some F'n strong kool aid. |
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 hm
@videotron.ca | reply to MaynardKrebs
said by MaynardKrebs:CRTC should rule that all handsets sold unlocked, debranded.
They say locked devices lowers cost for consumers. Commissioner asks How much. Bell doesn't know since he only made that statement up.
In addition, they do indeed pay extra for branded locked-out firmware. And we all pay extra for that.
She's asking the right questions... |
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hm
@videotron.ca | reply to MaynardKrebs
said by MaynardKrebs:CRTC should contact the suppliers directly to get their answers vs. Bhell's response.
As previously stated a few pages back, they need to get the major brands in to question them for the public record.
Otherwise the bullsh*t won't stop. |
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When the heck are they going to break for lunch????
Argh |
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JF is wired on caffeine. |
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 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to hm
Here's an idea, if the customer is paying full price for the device, OR the customer is contractually obligated to repay the subsidy if they cancel early, locking devices should be forbidden.
The only case in which a lock should be permissible is if a phone is sold to the consumer at a subsidized price, AND there is no obligation to repay that subsidy (no ETF). In that case, sure, you got free money, the lock is the compromise, the cost for that.
There is no justification for locking a phone because of a discount if I have to repay the discount to cancel anyhow.
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But the incumbents will say it's too complex to administer, anti-competitive, and that it waters down their control of the market which Canadians want them to have (according to a survey they commissioned of their own employees). |
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GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | Then take the simpler solution: don't lock any device ever. Boom, problem solved.
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| That's what I've been saying all along - unlocked, debranded, o/s updates direct from the manufacturer, no bloat/crapware installed. |
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said by Lunch Time :JF is wired on caffeine.
SOP - standard operating procedure
Red Bull would go broke if it wasn't for him. |
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said by Lunch Time :JF is wired on caffeine.
Somebody needs to grow some balls and fix whatever it is that's keeping him from this place.
...and that's all I have to say about THAT.
Mike
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Kitchener, ON
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I feel awful that I haven't been listening in on these. Glad I'm queued up now, right before JF takes to the stage. |
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Re: The New Wireless Code Hearings. Live Stream @ 9-am As usual, JF is making good points. |
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JF should have also mentioned the security aspect of getting o/s updates direct from manufacturers. With phones rapidly becoming vectors for attack into corporate/government networks, we can't wait for carriers to update the o/s (if they ever do it). |
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Sorry, I paused the broadcast a couple hours back and resumed it.
Listening to Bell's answers, especially Oosterman's responses, I have no idea who would want to a Bell customer. Can't believe Oosterman's responses to why Bell doesn't offer certain elements such as 1 and 2 year contracts is to just go to a competing carrier that does. |
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hm
@videotron.ca | reply to hm
JF is now up
(refresh if required). |
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