 hm @videotron.ca | reply to icemasta
Re: The New Wireless Code Hearings. Live Stream @ 9-am said by icemasta:Daniels from Bell saying if Canada mandated unlocked phones, it's very likely Apple wouldn't supply Canada with iPhone is absurd. Verizon iPhone 5's are factory unlocked and I know some other users here said European phone need to be legally unlocked and I'm sure they also sell iPhone's. Yup. When you catch up to when JF talks, you will see him expose their lies. |
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 | Perfect. Can't wait to hear them as soon as Bell's done from my stream. |
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 | reply to c2roth said by c2roth:Wow this is an interesting segue. What shocked JF?
Just Bell's electric cattle prod.....but then again he expects that from them.  |
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 | reply to hm Hey SaskTel - if your service was any good, you'd also be winning customers at practically no cost as they flee from Robellus.
It works both ways buddy. You aren't always on the short end of the stick. |
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| reply to icemasta said by icemasta:Daniels from Bell saying if Canada mandated unlocked phones, it's very likely Apple wouldn't supply Canada with iPhone is absurd. Verizon iPhone 5's are factory unlocked and I know some other users here said European phone need to be legally unlocked and I'm sure they also sell iPhone's. And I go can go to the Apple store and buy them unlocked. In fact they were unlocked here before the US was -- No, I didn't. Honest... I ran out of gas. I... I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake....... |
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 hm @videotron.ca | reply to MaynardKrebs
Found a USB key on the street when I brought the kids skating on the Rideau this evening.
Not sure what it could be... |
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 | said by hm :Found a USB key on the street when I brought the kids skating on the Rideau this evening.
Not sure what it could be...
Just stuff the CRTC is NOT considering in these hearings. |
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 hm @videotron.ca | said by MaynardKrebs:Just stuff the CRTC is NOT considering in these hearings. Ah. Guess I'll do what CRTC commissioners do...
*tosses the key and the info*
Anyone for a glass of kool aid? |
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 | said by hm :said by MaynardKrebs:Just stuff the CRTC is NOT considering in these hearings. Ah. Guess I'll do what CRTC commissioners do... *tosses the key and the info* Anyone for a glass of kool aid? I hear that the cherry kool aid & cyanide is a killer combination. |
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 mazhurgPremium join:2004-05-02 Portage La Prairie, MB | reply to hm said by hm :said by MaynardKrebs:Just stuff the CRTC is NOT considering in these hearings. Ah. Guess I'll do what CRTC commissioners do... *tosses the key and the info* Anyone for a glass of kool aid? I hear Bibic has a great flavour! |
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 hm @videotron.ca | reply to MaynardKrebs
Re: The New Wireless Code Hearings. Live Stream @ 9-am said by MaynardKrebs:I hear that the cherry kool aid & cyanide is a killer combination. You can't kill the evil living dead. |
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 | reply to hm This US article is a great - and very current - read:
Contracts? We don't need no stinking contracts! »www.zdnet.com/contracts-we-dont-···011299/?
.... All of this has changed, though, with the Nexus 4 on deck and unlocked iPhones increasingly available. The Nexus 4 in particular was never intended for sale through a carrier like most phones in the US. Rather, Google bypassed the restrictions, painfully slow Android updates, and other nonsense that carriers bring to the table.
And consumers have spoken. Google cant keep this unlocked superphone in stock, even with the absence of 4G capabilities. Consumers also gladly plop down top dollar for unlocked iPhones, march out to their nearest convenience score, and activate their phone with a simple SIM card kit.
So why the change? Because contracts are expensive, restrictive, and rarely come with unlocked phones. .....
Most importantly, though, when consumers and businesses want to buy phones and tablets (the latter, by the way, will replace phones for many individuals who simply use VoIP and a headset to make calls through their tablet which is their primary computing and communication device) will go to the same places where they would purchase computers, networking equipment, televisions, or any other electronics. Consumers will buy unlocked devices from big box stores and businesses will buy them from VARs or direct from OEMs, and manage them in the cloud, allocating bandwidth as appropriate to users. Gone will be the days of buying phones at the Verizon Store.
Or, I should add, through expensive corporate contracts with Verizon or AT&T. And that's a good thing for everyone involved.
Can somebody tweet this ZDNET article to the CRTC? »zd.net/WMxlOx |
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| Done.
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 | reply to hm I think the CRTC is slowly beginning to see that a single Code may be too difficult to properly implement because: a) provincial codes are different and there may be constitutional issues b) prepaid is different than post-paid c) Big 3 and other incumbents will do anything they can to pervert the spirit/intent of any National Code 4) New entrants are offering the only relatively sane business practices/plan which are consumer friendly
Unless the CRTC is going to adopt the most stringent of each jurisdiction conditions and make it a mandatory condition of maintaining spectrum licences, this Code experiment is doomed to failure.
The only solution is for Parliament to legislate that handsets are sold separately from the service, and that the cell voice/data service is sold only month-to-month, or at most for a 1-year term.
That said, since the CRTC has said that competition issues are NOT on the table, we're going to wind-up with some bastardized Code which will be immediately challenged on constitutional grounds - jurisdictionally and interference in business practices. ROBELLUS will not go quietly into the night over this.
Bottom line - this week of hearings and all the effort leading up to it has been pointless. And I think I'm being optimistic in my view.  |
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 | reply to hm Here's an interesting US MVNO provider »www.net10wireless.com/#/ |
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 hm @videotron.ca | reply to MaynardKrebs Last day: Friday, 15 February 2013
27. MTS Allstream (int. #1,072)
28. Saskatchewan Telecommunications (SaskTel) (int. #1,071)
29. Globalive Wireless Management Corp. (int. #1,045)
30. Quebecor Media Inc. (on behalf of Videotron G.P.) (int. #1,054)
31. The Commissioner for Complaints for Telecommunications Services (CCTS) (int. #1,028)
The three I am interested in are:
- Wind. Will they state the Canadian Market isn't worth it?
- Videotron to see their stance on the Consumer Protection issue, and since they're a new player, their stance compared to the big 3 and the CWTA/PIAC. And,
- CCTS. |
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 | reply to hm Didn't SaskTel already present yesterday? |
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| said by icemasta:Didn't SaskTel already present yesterday? Yes.
This is MTS Allstream. -- Battle.net Tech Support MVP |
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 mlernerPremium join:2000-11-25 Nepean, ON kudos:5 | reply to MaynardKrebs They can enforce certain elements of the code, maybe not all. And I'm not sure they have any power to enforce the sale and distribution of handsets as they don't regulate equipment at all.
So maybe not everything can be done under the code but they do have quite a bit of oversight in Federal regulation under the Telecommunications act. |
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