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dlarkin_dc

join:2009-08-24
Alexandria, VA
Reviews:
·VOIPO
·Cox HSI
reply to HarpSupport

Re: [CT] Netflix SuperHD?

Not here in NOVA.

Has Cox Communications put a press release out on this? I agree that the big HSI companies will hold out on "Open Connect" because of their own OnDemand type offerings.

Ironically, the reason I dropped my DTV was Cox couldn't give me a quality picture at 720, or steady PQ. I've never had even the merest a hiccup with streaming Vudu HDX - The bandwidth is there!

Which makes me wonder... why does Netflix need an "Open Connect" and HSI providers cooperation when other streaming services don't?
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OTA (...and proud of it!)
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Foxbat121

join:2001-04-25
Herndon, VA

Because of the bandwidth caps I believe. Netflix want a way for cable providers to not enforce bandwidth caps on Netflix streaming and Super HD is Netflix's leverage it appears.



NormanS
I gave her time to steal my mind away
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:11

2 edits
reply to dlarkin_dc

Working up a better explanation; should also apply to the respondent to your post.



NormanS
I gave her time to steal my mind away
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:11
Reviews:
·SONIC.NET
reply to Foxbat121

I wonder. I was fooling around, but think I got it wrong the first time.

While running a Hulu clip, I ran 'netstat -aon' and came up with:

  TCP    192.168.42.36:50700    209.170.97.214:443     ESTABLISHED     3644
  TCP    192.168.42.36:50722    17.149.36.185:5223     ESTABLISHED     1916
  TCP    192.168.42.36:54128    198.87.182.173:80      ESTABLISHED     4568
  TCP    192.168.42.36:54188    173.228.66.8:80        ESTABLISHED     3960
  TCP    192.168.42.36:54190    173.228.66.10:80       ESTABLISHED     3960
  TCP    192.168.42.36:54195    74.125.224.131:80      ESTABLISHED     3960
  TCP    192.168.42.36:54197    173.228.66.10:80       ESTABLISHED     3960
  TCP    192.168.42.36:54198    173.228.66.9:80        ESTABLISHED     3960
 

209.170.97.214 appears to be Akami in Los Angeles, California:
NetRange        209.170.97.0 - 209.170.97.255
CIDR            209.170.97.0/24
Name            AKAMAI
Handle          NET-209-170-97-0-1
Parent          TELIANET-2BLK (NET-209-170-64-0-1) 
 
Most likely the streaming server for Hulu. Trace route shows:
Tracing route to 209.170.97.214 over a maximum of 30 hops
 
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms     1 ms  192.168.42.1
  2    26 ms    25 ms    26 ms  173-228-7-1.dsl.static.sonic.net [173.228.7.1]
  3    25 ms    24 ms    25 ms  gig1-4.cr1.lsatca11.sonic.net [70.36.243.13]
  4    25 ms    25 ms    24 ms  0.xe-5-1-0.gw.pao1.sonic.net [69.12.211.1]
  5    25 ms    25 ms    25 ms  0.xe-6-1-0.gw2.200p-sf.sonic.net [64.142.0.109]
  6    26 ms    26 ms    25 ms  as0.gw.200p-sf.sonic.net [208.106.96.249]
  7    25 ms    26 ms    26 ms  xe-10-1-0.bar2.SanFrancisco1.Level3.net [4.53.134.9]
  8    27 ms    28 ms    27 ms  ae-6-6.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.140.154]
  9    29 ms    27 ms    27 ms  ae-92-92.csw4.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.153.30]
 10    32 ms    27 ms    26 ms  ae-4-90.edge2.SanJose3.Level3.net [4.69.152.209]
 11    26 ms    46 ms    26 ms  sjo-bb1-link.telia.net [213.248.98.29]
 12    36 ms    36 ms    37 ms  las-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.247.170]
 13    37 ms    36 ms    36 ms  209.170.97.214
 
Trace complete.
 
So Hulu content apparently requires leaving Sonic.net (my ISP) transit to traverse Level 3 and Telia to reach the Hulu content.

My understanding of Netflix "Open Connect" is that Netflix places their streaming servers directly on the ISP transit network, such that traversal of third party transit is not necessary.

I need to set up a Netflix account to test this.

Sonic.net, LLC is ready!


--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Needleinthha

join:2009-11-30

Anyone actually used SuperHD yet? How is it? Much different than normal netflix HD streams?


Foxbat121

join:2001-04-25
Herndon, VA
reply to NormanS

said by NormanS:

IMy understanding of Netflix "Open Connect" is that Netflix places their streaming servers directly on the ISP transit network, such that traversal of third party transit is not necessary.

Not necessary. See the technical explanation here:
»signup.netflix.com/openconnect

Foxbat121

join:2001-04-25
Herndon, VA
reply to Needleinthha

IIRC, Super HD is merely 5.8 mbps. Not exactly will be Blu Ray like quality which are typically 20 to 30 mbps.



floridaguy

@cox.net

5.8mbps is certainly not blu-ray but compared to netflix's regular HD superHD is remarkably better.