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vue666
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Military manufacturing coming to Windsor, ON

Hopefully this will fill the void in the auto manufacturing sector in Windsor....

»www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/s···sor.html



EUS
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Replacing non-taxpayer-burdened jobs with taxpayer-burdened jobs doesn't fill voids.
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dirtyjeffer
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most of the military items GD produces aren't for Canada, in case you didn't know.



DKS
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said by vue666:

Hopefully this will fill the void in the auto manufacturing sector in Windsor....

»www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/s···sor.html

Yawn. That's so 1970's. Canada was a huge producer of military hardware for the US during the Vietnam war. Lots of government subsidies available then, too.

Although it is old, this list gives some idea of the players and numbers involved in military supply in Canada.
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EUS
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Except this
"Swann said business peaked four years ago —at about the time of the recession and the height of Canada’s participation in the Afghanistan conflict."
proves that super-duper welfare lives on.
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dirtyjeffer
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i don't understand your point...if GD's sole customer was Canada, they would be out of business.



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said by EUS:

Except this
"Swann said business peaked four years ago —at about the time of the recession and the height of Canada’s participation in the Afghanistan conflict."
proves that super-duper welfare lives on.

The two are exclusive - Afghanistan's 'surge' and Canada's recession. Not knowing what Swann's company explicity manufactures (repair parts? production parts? which programs?), one cannot prove anything as to what his peak demand was related to. And it's especially not "welfare" when vehicles are being produced for non-Canadians. Canadian vehicles/support is only a small piece of the pie coming out of London's facilities.

The article itself is pretty weak because just like automotive, assembly plants everywhere have always created external parts suppliers and are job creators in themselves. But for some reason people tend to get themselves all worked up when instead of Ford's they're producing military vehicles.

That and it's a fluff piece where half the article is talking about ITAR and CCGP paper work.

I missed the part where the Federal Gov't (US or Canadian) had to bail out (welfare) Lockheed/GD/etc. a few years ago. If your argument is that military contractors are being perpetually bailed out, well that's the nature of the business in terms of who foots the bill for these products -- governments.
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FiReSTaRT
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I see it as a good thing. We need more investment in Ontario's industry. Too many factories and warehouses are being turned into churches.


Phorkster
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I also think what this article is saying is that most of that is already here. IE, there isn't more coming.

There is nothing that is going to fill the void of over 10000 auto jobs, and thats direct jobs at plants closed by Ford, GM and Chrysler. Numerous spinoff jobs and the industries that these jobs supported.

There was great celebration when a call center landed in Windsor. 1000 jobs! Fine print: minimum wage, no or little benefits.



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said by Phorkster:

There was great celebration when a call center landed in Windsor. 1000 jobs! Fine print: minimum wage, no or little benefits.

Flashback - St. Catharines, 10-15 years ago.

Difference was back then the Canadian dollar was high, and they were considerably more than minimum wage at the time but still less than half what an auto worker ever made.

Start hedging your bets on being the best retirement community you can be, because other than that Windsor is fucked.