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MaynardKrebs
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Re: Government killing online surveillance bill

Judges are on-call 24/7 in many jurisdictions.
There's not need for immediate intercept without a warrant.
The carrier/ISP can't do it any faster without a warrant.

Seems to me the Conservatards are watching re-runs of Jack Bauer.

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>Seems to me the Conservatards are watching re-runs of Jack Bauer.

or Person of Interest...

dillyhammer
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You'd be shocked at how hard it is to get a warrant.

It is not as simple or fast a thing as you might think. Most are not given out by judges at all, but rather a Justice Of The Peace.

Most JPs will deny if they're not overwhelmed by the bona fides in an affadavit. If it's done over the phone or via fax, even more so.

I think that's why the clause is there. The bureaucracy of a warrant could easily result in injury or death, and in the case of either being imminent, the officer would be indemnified if acting in good faith.

Quite frankly, I have no problem with that.

But conversely, if they act without a warrant and it's in bad faith, there should be an awful price to pay.

Mike
MaynardKrebs
We did it. We heaved Steve. Yipee.
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MaynardKrebs

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said by dillyhammer:

But conversely, if they act without a warrant and it's in bad faith, there should be an awful price to pay.

Instruments of medieval torture come to mind.
Who7
join:2012-12-18

Who7

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As an active and vocal Conservative supporter.....let me say something without saying anything.....

The minister involved think they are doing a greater good without realizing the extent of the greater harm. It's one of those "save the bunnies" bills that the politicians think will "make a difference" with more good then harm to the average citizen. Entirely opposite to the concept that due process, assumption of innocence and privacy.

Politics is not about principles by highly principled people, it's about doing what looks good and effective to the sheep.

Before any of you jump on the "evil Conservative agenda", remember, with a little bit of education, the bill is dead.......while the lefts darling, obama is giving himself judge jury and executioner powers on top of strengthening the Patriot Act.

We need more principled politicians.... and smarter sheep to demand better from them.

booj
join:2011-02-07
Richmond, ON

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said by Who7:

Before any of you jump on the "evil Conservative agenda", remember, with a little bit of education, the bill is dead...

The unpopular bill is dead because the public is sour on it... Only to be revived the next day as C55 and unlawful access snuck into spectrum auction rules.

There has been no change in their agenda.