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Re: [WIN8] What software for getting start menu back? said by signmeuptoo:I am trying to get used to metro, one thing I don't like is that I have to go back to the metro page and log out, and wait, and then shut down/restart
That's not necessary. While on the desktop, traditional app, or the start screen itself, bring your cursor to the bottom or top right of the screen. Click on settings, power, shutdown/restart.
I don't know what made you think you had to log out prior to shutting down, that simply isn't the case. |
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kudos:4 | Ah, I see it. They hid it, under settings? Not where I'd put it, it should be on its own.
I understand there is a way to use the power button of my computer, too? |
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Canada | Yes, in advanced power options you can change the behaviour of the power button. |
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All the Start Menu functionality is built into the Windows 8 desktop:
*Right click on the mini Start screen on the bottom left of the desktop (small pic)
*Add the desktop toolbar to the taskbar, then left click on the double arrows to view all desktop shortcuts, and some system items
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Yes, that is Quickstart in Win 8 which I linked to in my post. It doesn't work as well as Quickstart on XP. Sometimes it is extremely sluggish and takes over a minute to load while other times it loads instantly. It automatically sticks everything under the sun in Quickstart. I prefer the XP way where you have to drag and drop what you want in Quickstart.
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Slick. |
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said by SoonerAl:My wife likes the older classic interface while I tend to use the new modern UI (aka Metro) interface. It's not "modern" just because Microsoft says so. |
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Keep in mind that on Win8, 'shutdown' then 'power-up' is NOT the same as 'restart'. |
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WINDOWS 8? Uinstall quickly go back to 7. |
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said by Bob:ClassicShell (freeware) - »www.classicshell.net
Keep in mind that on Win8, 'shutdown' then 'power-up' is NOT the same as 'restart'.
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Another case of thinking they know better what the user wants than the user. Stevie B., if I want my laptop to sleep, I'll tell it to do that. And when I say Shut Down, I mean OFF. |
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| said by lorennerol:said by Bob:ClassicShell (freeware) - »www.classicshell.net
Keep in mind that on Win8, 'shutdown' then 'power-up' is NOT the same as 'restart'.
+1 Another case of thinking they know better what the user wants than the user. Stevie B., if I want my laptop to sleep, I'll tell it to do that. And when I say Shut Down, I mean OFF. And you, the user, can disable hybrid sleep in about 10 seconds. So YOU CAN DO THIS. Really. It's not hard.
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| said by JohnInSJ:And you, the user, can disable hybrid sleep in about 10 seconds. So YOU CAN DO THIS. Really. It's not hard.
And what percentage of users do you think will ever know this is possible, much less be able to figure it out? And why make something like this the default in the first place? Off is off. If you want 'hybrid sleep' then make it an option on the shut down menu.
My point is that it's another instance of MS thinking they know better what people want than people do themselves. Steve Jobs had a knack for this. Microsoft thinks they do, but they do not. |
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| The % of users who micro-manage their systems will do it. The majority who want faster startup times won't.
Your point is that it doesn't work for you. Your misconception is that you represent the majority of Windows users. Microsoft does listen to its users. It makes changes based on what most of them want.
Now, clearly that's not you, or me, or even the majority of the 1/10000 of a % of windows users who post regularly to DSLR. For us, we need to change the setting. So we do, and move on.
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| said by JohnInSJ: Microsoft does listen to its users. It makes changes based on what most of them want.
While that is most certainly true for some extent, I'm willing to bet a rather large sum of money that the radical UI change in WIn8 wasn't driven by user request.
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said by JohnInSJ:The majority who want faster startup times won't. I always thought that's what 'sleep' was for. |
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| said by Bob:said by JohnInSJ:The majority who want faster startup times won't. I always thought that's what 'sleep' was for. Yep, and you and me and about 10 other people know that, and used it before Win8.
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said by aurgathor:said by JohnInSJ: Microsoft does listen to its users. It makes changes based on what most of them want.
While that is most certainly true for some extent, I'm willing to bet a rather large sum of money that the radical UI change in WIn8 wasn't driven by user request. We're not talking about the UI change, we are talking about the Win8 OS level hybrid sleep change.
The UI change is driven by touch, tablet, and a unified development model for devices across all platform sizes. In other words, it's trying to position microsoft to not be irrelevant in about 5 years. Which they will be if they don't drag their dwindling user base into the 21st century. Kicking and screaming, if necessary.
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Yes, I'm certain that most users were quite concerned about the Start button cluttering up their desktops and how unuseful it was. Please, please remove this annoying, useless part of Windows and whatever you do, don't leave me a way to add it back.
I've already heard, multiple times, "I did restart my computer". Sorry, if you're running Win8 and you chose "Restart", you didn't actually restart your computer. And as this is both the first troubleshooting step and fixes many transient issues, how does making restart not actually restart help people?
"I want it to be faster" seems to have been misinterpreted as "Make it do something other than what I told it to do in order to fool me into thinking it's faster."
They are not the same thing. |
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San Jose, CA | Ok, we disagree.
Note, however, that RESTART does restart the PC. Shutdown/Start does not.
So your example isn't very accurate. |
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