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Carpie

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Re: Preparing for PvP In 5.2, Patch 5.2 PTR Notes Updated

Notes from this morning:

Patch 5.2 PvP Blog Post Updated
The Preparing for PvP In 5.2 blog post was updated to reflect that the new Malevolent Gladiator's gear in Patch 5.2 that is purchased with Honor is of lower item level than the current Malevolent Gladiator's gear. The new items are new versions of the gear, so the reduced item level should not affect items purchased before the patch.

Patch 5.2 - Cross-Realm Patch 5.0 Raids
Ghostcrawler confirmed that the old Patch 5.0 raids will all be cross-realm once Patch 5.2 is live.


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said by Carpie:

Notes from this morning:

Patch 5.2 PvP Blog Post Updated
The Preparing for PvP In 5.2 blog post was updated to reflect that the new Malevolent Gladiator's gear in Patch 5.2 that is purchased with Honor is of lower item level than the current Malevolent Gladiator's gear. The new items are new versions of the gear, so the reduced item level should not affect items purchased before the patch.

Patch 5.2 - Cross-Realm Patch 5.0 Raids
Ghostcrawler confirmed that the old Patch 5.0 raids will all be cross-realm once Patch 5.2 is live.

Makes sense and the PvE change is pure awesome will be able to pug from friends lists now.
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Carpie

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Agreed. Here is the other part of the message about a website that let's you PuG easier. I've not heard of it before but it sounds like it is worth checking out.

OpenRaid Reminder
Now that cross-realm Patch 5.0 raids are confirmed, this might be a good time to remind everyone about OpenRaid. It is a site that allows you to easily form cross-realm groups for PvP and PvE content. Currently you can do all of the old WoW content, except for Mists of Pandaria raids.

It is an easy way to grab nice meta achievement mounts like the the Bloodbathed Frostbrood Vanquisher or Ironbound Proto-Drake, as well as transmog gear, chances at mounts that drop from old raids, and even a way to finish getting the drops for your old legendary item! You can also find some Challenge Mode groups and RBG groups as well.

Once Patch 5.2 is live, it will provide an opportunity to gear up your characters faster by running the Patch 5.0 raids in Normal or Heroic difficulty. Doing Normal difficulty will give you higher item level loot, extra chances at loot compared to just running LFR, and help you to catch up on the legendary quest line, so that you can get your legendary meta gem sooner!

Cows

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Just saw the new pvp gear posted on MMO champ and it has boosted pvp stats but reduced base stats.

I was worried the difference would be huge and i would have to grind 5 sets of honor gear during the 1-2 weeks without arena's for my chars without upgraded gear. Looks like the new one could be a little behind the current.

The 5.2 DK Mal helm difference would be: -69str, -104stam, -46 mastery, -46expertise, +103 PVP power, +103 resil

Anyone have thoughts on it?


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I bet It is still way better than the current Dreadful stuff so I am OK for less pve stats and increased pvp stats. In my case I need to grind a dps set and a tank set for my warrior so I is going to be a very fun week when the patch hits.
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said by Cows:

The 5.2 DK Mal helm difference would be: -69str, -104stam, -46 mastery, -46expertise, +103 PVP power, +103 resil

Anyone have thoughts on it?

I believe the gear will be better for PvP and worse for PvE. PvP Power and PvP Resil are such big stats in some cases being prioritized over Agility/Strength/Intellect that they should make up the difference. It's a way for them to lower the Item Level but still make the gear compete with previous malevolent.

5.2 Malevolent > 5.1 Malevolent (Not upgraded) - PVP

5.2 Malevolent 5.1 Malevolent (Not upgraded) - PVE


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Patch 5.2 Honor Gear

Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
The Patch 5.2 Malevolent gear may have more PvP power and Resilience, but Patch 5.1 Malevolent gear has higher Item levels and as such stats. To have more clarity on this you can read the below comparisons:

•5.1 Malevolent Gear has a higher ilevel than 5.2 Malevolent Gear.
•5.2 Malevolent Gear has more PvP Power/Resilience than 5.1 Malevolent Gear.
•5.1 Malevolent Gear

483 ilevel (491 with 2/2 upgrades)
~30 ilevels of PvP Power and Resilience
•5.2 Malevolent Gear
476 ilevel
~36 ilevels of PvP Power and Resilience

In the end, the effective Ilvl of patch 5.2 and 5.1 Malevolent gear puts them at about equal. The reason for lowering the item level and increasing the PvP stats for the 5.2 version of Malevolent gear is because we want players to run 5.0 LFR, this means that the Ilvl of honor gear needs to be lower than the entry requirement of 483. The result of this was lowering the Ilvl (stats) of the gear, but increasing it's PvP power and resilience to compensate. That difference in power you feel is going to be extremely prominent, is actually quite minor.

djlar

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Nice, finally some boomer love.. 9% to each main spell, I'm always 4th or 5th on damange on my best effort (with no tier bonus), this could put me on top...

Also loving the 20% mind blast buff for SP


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said by Snuffbox:

Patch 5.2 Honor Gear

Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
The Patch 5.2 Malevolent gear may have more PvP power and Resilience, but Patch 5.1 Malevolent gear has higher Item levels and as such stats. To have more clarity on this you can read the below comparisons:

•5.1 Malevolent Gear has a higher ilevel than 5.2 Malevolent Gear.
•5.2 Malevolent Gear has more PvP Power/Resilience than 5.1 Malevolent Gear.
•5.1 Malevolent Gear

483 ilevel (491 with 2/2 upgrades)
~30 ilevels of PvP Power and Resilience
•5.2 Malevolent Gear
476 ilevel
~36 ilevels of PvP Power and Resilience

In the end, the effective Ilvl of patch 5.2 and 5.1 Malevolent gear puts them at about equal. The reason for lowering the item level and increasing the PvP stats for the 5.2 version of Malevolent gear is because we want players to run 5.0 LFR, this means that the Ilvl of honor gear needs to be lower than the entry requirement of 483. The result of this was lowering the Ilvl (stats) of the gear, but increasing it's PvP power and resilience to compensate. That difference in power you feel is going to be extremely prominent, is actually quite minor.

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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.