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Re: SWTOR

Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:59:51 EDT

Savious posted : Yea, you didn't send me flowers on valentines day. Not even a call? Im sick of coming second to WoW!!
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"This thread has more subs than the actual game." Phantasee, in reference to SWTOR

Re: SWTOR

Wed, 20 Feb 2013 13:52:01 EDT

Jobbie posted :

said by Savious:

Who or what is that?

@Jobbie We broke up, remember?

I didn't get the memo. :(
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Re: SWTOR

Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:11:19 EDT

Koil posted :

said by Shatter:

I loved that show...and now that dam theme song is stuck in my head...thanks a-holes

My work here is done!!

Re: SWTOR

Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:04:44 EDT

Shatter posted : I loved that show...and now that dam theme song is stuck in my head...thanks a-holes

Re: SWTOR

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:45:44 EDT

Koil posted : »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greate···can_Hero

You're a dick for making me feel old.

Loved this show when I was a kid.

Loved the theme song:

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Q3orQhEcA

Re: SWTOR

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:35:26 EDT

Savious posted : Who or what is that?

@Jobbie We broke up, remember?

Re: SWTOR

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:34:48 EDT

Koil posted : [att=1]

Re: SWTOR

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:15:49 EDT

Jobbie posted : I liked the previous one more.

Re: SWTOR

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:51:47 EDT

Savious posted : Thanks. Guy. You're a reeeeeeal American hero. =P

Re: SWTOR

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:15:07 EDT

Koil posted :

said by Savious:

Ok, had to post something a little longer because I'm not sure why.

»Site FAQ

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Why doesn't my sig show up?

First, make sure you selected "show signature." Also, your post must be longer than your sig. For instance, if your sig is "www.dslreports.com," your post would need to be at least 19 characters long.
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Re: SWTOR

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:11:29 EDT

Phantasee posted : I actually like SWTOR. It just came out with EA all up in it's grill. And it came out in an already saturated MMO market. I think it's fun. Not WoW E-Sport fun, but solid enough to play if you have friends that play with you.

Re: SWTOR

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:06:14 EDT

Savious posted : Wow, I'm terrible at DSLR: The Game.

Anyways, had SWTOR come out first, I would hate WoW. Its just a clone of SWTOR!
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"This thread has more subs than the actual game." Phantasee, in reference to SWTOR

Re: SWTOR

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:03:43 EDT

Savious posted : Ok, had to post something a little longer because I'm not sure why.

On topic, if SWTOR had come out before or right around WoW, would you be playing it and lamenting WOW??
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[BQUOTE=[user=Phantasee]]This thread has more subs than the actual game.
[/BQUOTE] In reference to SWTOR

Re: SWTOR

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:01:39 EDT

Savious posted : Just making sure my new quote works, because that was aaaaaaamazing burn damage!!

Re: SWTOR

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:00:55 EDT

Phantasee posted :

said by Savious:

said by Phantasee:

This thread has more subs than the actual game.

Thanks for the new quote!

Haha! Np.

Re: SWTOR

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 16:58:00 EDT

Savious posted :

said by Phantasee:

This thread has more subs than the actual game.

Thanks for the new quote!
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Re: SWTOR

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:44:08 EDT

Phantasee posted : This thread has more subs than the actual game.

Re: SWTOR

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:29:28 EDT

TheThing posted : 5 more star wars movies coming out!

Re: SWTOR

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:22:31 EDT

malem83 posted : I've had a blast leveling my toons. Then the high end blasted me away from the game :)

High end don't interest you so i'm not gonna make a big focus on this as to why this game failed to deliver.

I look at planets, and they are not planets, they are war zones where people stand in place, doing nothing. This makes the game look bland. I would have prefered a BIG campaign on the same planet where you actually explore the planet.

Space mission were too easy back then and the concept of a rail shooting while the rest of the game is open world seems a bit whacky to me. But still, the concept of having our own space ship is great. I would have loved to be able to use it in a more "direct way" in the game. How about making a space operation ?? Say you start a RAID by attack a big enemy ship and make it crash on a planet then continue that raid on the lands ??? That alone would have made the game up the what people were expecting. Something unique and BIG.

I still play the game. W-hell, I came back a week ago and found myself enjoying to level some new toons and upgrade my current ones too. But, my sources tell me that they still add 2 bugs for every one they fix. That makes me think of something else they failed with : Bugs, and the time they take to fix them.

This is a good game. I've been having a lot of fun, but still, there is also a lot of disappointement. I don't care what they take from the other games. I just wish they make it mature more and develop what will make this game a must.
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Re: SWTOR

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:25:49 EDT

footballdude posted :

said by Koil:

Sav's right, it's not very beta. There are a few things here and there, but nothing game breaking...more polish, I'd say...very playable, very well done, no more char wipes...No reason not to jump in.

...less'n yer yella!

I ain't skeered!
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Re: SWTOR

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:36:34 EDT

Koil posted : Sav's right, it's not very beta. There are a few things here and there, but nothing game breaking...more polish, I'd say...very playable, very well done, no more char wipes...No reason not to jump in.

...less'n yer yella!

Re: SWTOR

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:19:24 EDT

bionicRod posted : Somebody left a 12 pack of Boulevard Wheat in my beer fridge from the Superbowl party. I normally like something darker but damn if it's not tasting good.

Re: SWTOR

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:35:04 EDT

TigerLord posted : I could go for an icecold Guiness right now.

Re: SWTOR

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:09:20 EDT

bionicRod posted : Tastes Great > Less Filling

And you're old for using that reference. And I'm old for getting it. Fuck it let's go get a beer.

Re: SWTOR

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:03:51 EDT

Nightfall posted :

said by TigerLord:

said by Nightfall:

In the end, who gives a shit.

He obviously does since he asked us for actual arguments, which we gave him. Can't blame us for that.

True that. I am just saying in the end, it doesn't matter.

This is playing out like a tastes great, less filling commercial.

Time to move on.
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Re: SWTOR

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:58:05 EDT

TigerLord posted :

said by Nightfall:

In the end, who gives a shit.

He obviously does since he asked us for actual arguments, which we gave him. Can't blame us for that.

Re: SWTOR

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:20:24 EDT

Nightfall posted :

said by footballdude:

said by BigReds42:

Therein lies the problem... people buying into over-hype.

You missed the point. The amount of resources EA put into development of SWTOR meant that it's success or failure was going to make significant waves in the industry. The amount of sales and long term subscriptions it received wasn't enough to justify it's cost. It is now highly unlikely that anyone else will sink massive amounts of resources into a subscription MMO.

In the end, who gives a shit.

BigReds42 likes playing the game. He brings up some very valid points. Was it over-hyped? Oh yes. Did it have no end game? Oh yes. He is merely saying that the game is fun for him, and while others here may disagree, it doesn't matter because this is America and the game is free to play. No skin off your ass or anyone else here who thinks the game is weak or is shit.
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Re: SWTOR

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:17:53 EDT

Nightfall posted :

said by Koil:

Come.

Join us...

We all float down here...

»Path of Exile

Already with you. :D
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Re: SWTOR

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:14:18 EDT

Savious posted : Its not really beta anymore, as the game is not doing anymore char wipes.
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Re: SWTOR

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:06:33 EDT

footballdude posted :

said by Koil:

Come.

Join us...

We all float down here...

»Path of Exile

I don't beta. I'd rather let someone else squash all the bugs. I'll likely check it out when it goes live, though.
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Re: SWTOR

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:31:27 EDT

Koil posted : Come.

Join us...

We all float down here...

»Path of Exile

Re: SWTOR

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:19:13 EDT

footballdude posted :

said by drew:

Lack of LFD at the beginning was also a huge deal. I like grouping, I like instances. That's fun! Making me sit somewhere and spam a chat channel instead of playing is crappy. Even FFXI had a better system, IMO.

That's why I eventually gave up on the game. Once I hit max level on my sorcerer, I would have been happy running an instance or two every day and doing occassional leveling on my alts. I went an entire week not being able to find any groups at all for anything, then decided I wasn't going to pay for that crap anymore. Lack of LFD is the main reason I haven't logged into Guild Wars 2 for a few weeks. I just started fooling around with a character in Tera. I don't know yet if that has a LFD, but if it doesn't it won't last for me, either.
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Re: SWTOR

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:29:35 EDT

drew posted : It's been a while since I saw some good old fashioned BRage™!

SWTOR had a pretty fresh look at questing... until you realized that the throw-away character that wants fifteen spacerat skulls is now not only throw-away text, but it's dialog driven and slows the pace down considerably.

Combine that and the pre-40 vanilla WoW travel speeds, even with mounts, between quests... I felt like I was spending far too much time doing everything BUT playing my character in combat.

I still have a major gripe with the UI - there is absolutely no reason to make me press as many buttons as I had to to heal somebody. Either Clique-style or mouseover macros, please.

As for the art style... it was not bad, but certainly not my cup-of-tea in a lot of areas. I remember SWG (and I haven't played that in YEARS) worlds having more detail than SWTOR's did. Lack of LFD at the beginning was also a huge deal. I like grouping, I like instances. That's fun! Making me sit somewhere and spam a chat channel instead of playing is crappy. Even FFXI had a better system, IMO.
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Re: SWTOR

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:14:57 EDT

puppy posted : I think you are mostly on the mark football but I remember when 100M for Waterworld (the stinker movie) was such a calamity back then, but now it's no biggie to hit the 100M for a normal movie. People have short memories and tons of cheap cash sloshing around in the world!

Re: SWTOR

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 09:49:21 EDT

footballdude posted :

said by BigReds42:

Therein lies the problem... people buying into over-hype.

Re: SWTOR

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:02:00 EDT

jofos posted :

said by BigReds42:

said by Phantasee:

I still enjoy Anarchy Online. So enjoying SWTOR is okay if you like COMPLETE EA TAKEOVER RUBBISH CAKES. Other than that it's an ok game in my book.

And that is something the "cool kids" just can't admit... it becomes cool to bash it so we just go sheepishly along and follow the herd.

Not really worried about being cool as I don't know any of you so why would I care if you think I'm cool. But the game has been out for over a year. I paid two sunscriptions, one for me one for my son, for 8 months and I just paid for another month a few days ago. How can anyone not say there is a problem when you can't even use your characters?
To be fair to BW and SWTOR I can now log into all my characters and for my inconvenience they are giving me some cartel coins.

Re: SWTOR

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:41:01 EDT

Ghastlyone posted :

said by Phantasee:

Even if it looks like WoW, if it plays well and has a responsive UI, I'll be all over it.

I can deal with something that looks like WoW and runs good. What I can't accept is something that looks like WoW and runs like shit also.

Re: SWTOR

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:38:32 EDT

TigerLord posted :

said by BigReds42:

3. Yes because they had the luxury of being a single player RPG on a console... this (despite how I play it) is still an MMO. And what is the "story" of GW2? WoW? etc? I'd give a week's paycheck to any casual peson who plays GW2 or WoW to come on here and actually explain any story they remember.

5. And then only people who can afford 2 $500 video cards would be able to play it.

6. "biggest financial flop in the history of video game"? They still have some subscribers.. and they'll make more money from microtransactions.... they'll recoup... it will just take time. Even if they make $14.... it's no longer the "biggest financial flop in the history of video game" You realize how much money Sony lost on the Playstations? Are they a big flop? Gotta look at the endgame my friend.

3. The story was better than WoW or GW2, but for Star Wars cannon it was poor.

5. Just lower the frickin' graphics if you can't afford a fancy SLI setup. Nobody is forcing us to run things on ultra with forced AA and Ambient Occlusion. Some of us would just like to have the option.

6. You don't realize the millions that was invested in the PR campaign alone will never justify the money spent when looking at the success. My guess is Riot Games will have made more money in the past 2 years from a simple game like LoL than Bioware EVER will from SWTOR even if it would still be here in 50 years. Apparently it cost 200 millions to develop SWTOR.

I'd be interested to know how much it cost to make Skyrim, a game of comparable if not bigger scope and size, even if they're very different.

Re: SWTOR

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:19:01 EDT

Phantasee posted : Even if it looks like WoW, if it plays well and has a responsive UI, I'll be all over it.

Re: SWTOR

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:41:13 EDT

Ghastlyone posted :

said by BigReds42:

And then only people who can afford 2 $500 video cards would be able to play it.

You don't need a $1,000 in GPUs. This isn't a console port we're talking here. Is it too much to ask for a game that doesn't have graphics that look 8 years old right out the gate?

An MMO that releases in the year 2012 better have some damn good graphics or something at least current, not something emulating a cartoon style along the lines of WoW from 2004.

Re: SWTOR

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:36:15 EDT

Phantasee posted : SWTOR was one of the only MMO's that I came away from playing and I could not explain what the turn-off was for me. I think it was a combination of the travel between quests. Lack of teamwork because everyone was trying to zerg rush through class quests. It tried way too hard to copy like Rift did. And I still think to this day Rift did a better job than SWTOR, regardless of numbers.

And that isn't saying much @ all for either game. Overall they are both quality MMO's compared to some of the rubbish that saturates the MMO market currently. MMo's these days lack adventure. The reason is today's target market does not have time for adventure. We all have time restrictions. The days of Everquest are behind us and most MMO's will be pay-to-win or feel like an E-Sport more than an adventure experience.

Re: SWTOR

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:21:13 EDT

Savious posted : To be fair, SWTOR was a great game that came out 7 years too late.

The story, companions, environments were all fantastic, but they borrowed too much from WoW in mechanics but nothing regarding game play.

LFD would have been nice, for example. Running around in the fleet was irritating.
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Re: SWTOR

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:19:15 EDT

Zupe posted :

said by TigerLord:

-The end game was non existent at launch

I thought the story-telling aspects of leveling were innovative, and enjoyed the leveling experience quite a bit. The issue was, they never figured out how to carry that over at max level. Once the story ended, you were left with a standard MMO dungeon/raid setup, and they shot themselves in the foot with that by making what little there was of that content too easy.

You should not be able to go into the hardest raid in the game at the time with a group that's never seen the content before and be fully clearing it the first or second time you run it in this type of game. The ease of completing the raids and therefore, ease of gearing up through them, made the heroic/hardmode/whatever they were called dungeons obsolete, as you could get gear more easily from the raids. That knocked out that entire portion of content beyond seeing them once or twice for the experience, which in turn left almost nothing to do.
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Re: SWTOR

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:16:21 EDT

Savious posted : SWTOR was the highest budget game of Hutt Ball I've ever played 10 times in a row.
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Re: SWTOR

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:16:04 EDT

BigReds42 posted :

said by TigerLord:

3. KOTOR's storytelling was eons ahead in terms of quality. You have low standards.

5. Yes.

6. It makes it the biggest financial flop in the history of video game making, which is significant in and on itself especially when you consider this is Bioware.

Re: SWTOR

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:07:12 EDT

gaforces posted : A few innovative and different things.

Companions with story who fight and do your chores like selling junk out of inv and crafting.
Huttball! Was only fun for me with ranged characters.
Legacy wide benefits. Makes it easy to level alts quicker.
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Re: SWTOR

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:05:02 EDT

TigerLord posted :

said by BigReds42:

1. Ignored.

2. That is legitimate.

3. Opinion.... it's fucking Star Wars... Padawans become Jedi... Bad guys become Sith... you can't rewrite canon. You clearly didn't play through the Agent Story.

4. Legit.

5. Opinion... what do you want photorealism?

6. Going F2P doesn't make it the worst game of all time. It was just a bad decision to start off as P2P... after GW and other successful F2P models they shouldn't have made people pay.

Re: SWTOR

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:03:28 EDT

BigReds42 posted :

said by Phantasee:

I still enjoy Anarchy Online. So enjoying SWTOR is okay if you like COMPLETE EA TAKEOVER RUBBISH CAKES. Other than that it's an ok game in my book.

And that is something the "cool kids" just can't admit... it becomes cool to bash it so we just go sheepishly along and follow the herd.

Re: SWTOR

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:02:07 EDT

BigReds42 posted :

said by footballdude:

SWTOR was supposed to be a revolutionary game that redefined MMOs. Even before the game was released, it was common knowledge that SWTOR would change everything in the MMO world.

Says who? And you believed that?

Therein lies the problem... people buying into over-hype.

Take a movie everyone says you have to see because it's so funny. You see it finally a year later and you think... meh. Over hype... doesn't make it garbage.

Re: SWTOR

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:59:31 EDT

BigReds42 posted :

said by TigerLord:

-The execution was piss poor
-The end game was non existent at launch
-The story was clichéd and unoriginal
-It lacked serious innovation (compared to GW2, which improved on the old model significantly)
-The visual style was unimpressive
-Went F2P in less than a year in spite of being the most costly MMO ever produced