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Re: Major CRTC decision next week. - CBB Will this decision determine if start.ca can offer unlimited bandwidth? |
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| said by Perma:Will this decision determine if start.ca can offer unlimited bandwidth?
According to rocca's posts, yes the decision will affect the ability of Start can offer unlimited and higher data caps. I believe he has mentioned they are atm eating costs on the higher tiers. |
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Ottawa, ON | not only will it enable them to start offering unlimited if the new pricing is good, but he's mentioned it will allow them to likely offer the fastest speeds on Rogers network. |
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said by InvalidError:said by The Mongoose:Retroactive! HUGE CASH REBATES TO ALL CABLE CUSTOMERS More like retroactive recovering profits ISPs have cut themselves short of from setting their retail rates with some degree of speculation about the CBB outcome to avoid massive churn rate in the meantime. So unless the CRTC cuts surprisingly deeply into CBB rate, I do not expect much headroom for a retail refund. It is still possible that retail rates will increase if the final rates turn out to be higher than what ISPs guessed they might be when they set their interim rates. I was making the same point. Hence the allcaps and the demand for $0.57. |
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said by geokilla:What? Who? There's Rogers and Bell...
Videotron. TSI.
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mikee
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Gloucester, ON | reply to jmck
wow, 150/10 would be awesome at a decent price. hopefully it all works out  |
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 Dones
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Toronto, ON | reply to TSI Marc
So let's say the prices are in teks favour, can we see the new speeds in less than two-three months? |
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Etobicoke, ON | There are speeds they couldn't offer because it wouldn't be economical under the old (current) scheme. |
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Few things;
1) Doesn't anyone else feel like the big 3 already know the outcome somehow? And they know it will not be in their favour and so as a result have ALL released "unlimited" packages within the past 2 weeks....Very interesting timing...
2) Will TSI be posting new potential plans within 30 days or so of the ruling? Hopefully they can share what they can offer and for how much BEFORE the full network wide switch to aggreg (so before they can actually offer it I guess).
3) Could this not immediately affect current plans in terms of caps at least, but keeping the current speeds? Ex: 300GB going to 500GB and unlimited being cheaper, but all at the current speeds on non-aggreg?
4) Any guesses on the day next week? My money is on next Thursday
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mikee
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Gloucester, ON | Hopefully its on monday so its not another repeat of the last descision. :'( |
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Dones
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Toronto, ON | said by mikee:Hopefully its on monday so its not another repeat of the last descision. :'(
Monday is family day |
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| I'm more excited to see what happens with start then anything. Even if TSI gets better rogers rates, I'm not expecting anything special happening with them. |
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| said by chrisl83:I'm more excited to see what happens with start then anything. Even if TSI gets better rogers rates, I'm not expecting anything special happening with them.
Obviously Start gets the edge until everyone else goes aggregated...but once everyone's on equal footing I imagine we could see any of TSI, Start, Distributel, Acanac, etc offering quite interesting plans. |
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said by d4m1r:Few things;
1) Doesn't anyone else feel like the big 3 already know the outcome somehow? And they know it will not be in their favour and so as a result have ALL released "unlimited" packages within the past 2 weeks....Very interesting timing...
2) Will TSI be posting new potential plans within 30 days or so of the ruling? Hopefully they can share what they can offer and for how much BEFORE the full network wide switch to aggreg (so before they can actually offer it I guess).
3) Could this not immediately affect current plans in terms of caps at least, but keeping the current speeds? Ex: 300GB going to 500GB and unlimited being cheaper, but all at the current speeds on non-aggreg?
4) Any guesses on the day next week? My money is on next Thursday
My guesses (and they are all guesses):
1) I don't think they know the exact outcome, but I think they do expect the tariffs to drop and are reacting accordingly.
2) I seriously doubt they're going to release the plans until they're ready to go to agg...though this could be relatively quick if they decide to open up for subscriptions in all the areas currently not served by a Tek POI.
3) I don't see how. The old tariffs will still apply to non-agg, won't they? Not sure why this would affect non-agg at all...the sooner we get switched, the better.
4) I'll say Friday. |
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said by d4m1r:1) Doesn't anyone else feel like the big 3 already know the outcome somehow? The methods the CRTC is supposed to follow when setting rates are in the CRTC's costing rules which are available to the public and the CRTC relies on the incumbents' data to calculate rates using those rules. Incumbents can do the CRTC's costing exercise themselves with the numbers they provided the CRTC and already have a pretty accurate estimation of what the CRTC will say before decisions come out.
As for the CRTC's decision not being in the incumbent's favor, I doubt it. The CRTC's decision will still be in the incumbent's favor since they have to guarantee a fair return on investment, they will simply be less favorable - enough so to tell incumbents that they have failed to kill wholesale high-caps/unlimited service. |
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said by The Mongoose:3) I don't see how. The old tariffs will still apply to non-agg, won't they? Not sure why this would affect non-agg at all...the sooner we get switched, the better. Ya, I don't understand this either. The non-agg pricing has never changed, as far as I can tell (though I'm sure true cost per customer has gone up with faster speeds, Streaming, and etc.).
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said by InvalidError:said by d4m1r:1) Doesn't anyone else feel like the big 3 already know the outcome somehow? The methods the CRTC is supposed to follow when setting rates are in the CRTC's costing rules which are available to the public and the CRTC relies on the incumbents' data to calculate rates using those rules. Incumbents can do the CRTC's costing exercise themselves with the numbers they provided the CRTC and already have a pretty accurate estimation of what the CRTC will say before decisions come out. As for the CRTC's decision not being in the incumbent's favor, I doubt it. The CRTC's decision will still be in the incumbent's favor since they have to guarantee a fair return on investment, they will simply be less favorable - enough so to tell incumbents that they have failed to kill wholesale high-caps/unlimited service. The main difference is that this time, the crtc didn't just trust incumbent costs, and rubber stamped. They're actually looking at the numbers, and questioning them.
Based on questions posed to them by the crtc, they know which numbers will drop, and possibly a rough estimate of how much.
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said by Dones:Monday is family day
Family day is a provincial holiday, not federal. CRTC is a federal agency. |
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said by chrisl83:I'm more excited to see what happens with start then anything. Even if TSI gets better rogers rates, I'm not expecting anything special happening with them.
Same here, if they come out with unlimited plans after this at a decent price then I'm going to have to switch over. |
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