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vincom

join:2009-03-06
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reply to TSI Marc

Re: Major CRTC decision next week. - CBB

said by TSI Marc:

»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/whatsnew.htm

nice. yep. tomorrow at 2pm it is!

what decision, the link doesnt mention anything on cbb

bbhog

join:2010-07-05
North York, ON

said by vincom:

what decision, the link doesnt mention anything on cbb

The announcement on what will be released on the 21st will be at 2pm... Ottawa time


AkFubar
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reply to TSI Marc

That's Thursday! That's a good sign.
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atmx093

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said by TwiztedZero:

said by atmx093:

No. Tomorrow is the day. I can feel it.

Yoda you are not.

What have you to say now, hmmm?
Much to learn you still have, young padawan.


d4m1r

join:2011-08-25
reply to TSI Marc

Yay, I called it first on Thursday on page 2! Now where is my prize



Crappier

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said by d4m1r:

Yay, I called it first on Thursday on page 2! Now where is my prize

Unfortunately, Marc drank it.

Better luck next year!

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reply to TSI Marc

Cool.. Looking forward to the decision tomorrow.
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reply to TSI Marc

said by TSI Marc:

»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/whatsnew.htm

nice. yep. tomorrow at 2pm it is!

Thursday late enough that CNOC can't get headlines in a business day paper if the decision is bad for them. It isn't after market close so as not to affect the price of ROBELLUS stock if it's bad for them. So you can see where I'm heading with this.


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reply to Mike2009

said by Mike2009:

said by Gone:

said by resa1983:

I'm betting on Bell's rate dropping the most.

I dunno, I like to think that Cogeco will take a good asskicking when all is said and done.

They ALL need a good asskicking.

 
And the lineup starts HERE !

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reply to Johnster

said by Johnster:

said by bparanoid5:

Looks like you [Marc] picked a bad week to quit amphetamines.

And sniffing glue...

And Tim-Bits

hangene92

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reply to TSI Marc

Cant wait ^^



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Got my popcorn !


Stescotty

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reply to TSI Marc

I put on my money on the fact the CRTC will defer their decision till a later date. It would be just like the government you wait with anticipation and they defer it so they don't tick anyone off.

I'll believe it when I see it.


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said by Stescotty:

I put on my money on the fact the CRTC will defer their decision till a later date. It would be just like the government you wait with anticipation and they defer it so they don't tick anyone off.

I'll believe it when I see it.

If they're doing a late afternoon release, it's not going to be a defer til some later date.
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AkFubar
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reply to TSI Marc

hmmm late afternoon is usually after 4 pm when the markets are closed. Hope it is earlier tho.
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bitchtorn

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reply to TSI Marc

Not sure why they need a "late" release.

Bell/Rogers/Videotron already got the memo ahead of time - and updated packages to include unlimited. (for a cost)


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said by bitchtorn:

Not sure why they need a "late" release.

Bell/Rogers/Videotron already got the memo ahead of time - and updated packages to include unlimited. (for a cost)


you answered your own question :P

Nice 2 week window to deal with damage control

InvalidError

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reply to Stescotty

said by Stescotty:

It would be just like the government you wait with anticipation and they defer it so they don't tick anyone off.

That would still tick off every 3rd-party ISP who has been waiting for this decision for over a year since the current rates are hurting their economic viability and limiting their ability to offer OTT services.

bdoyledimou

join:2002-08-20
Markham, ON

but it will not be considered bad for the TPIAs if it is a retroactive deal where the TPIAs will be getting a refund -- at least by the incumbants and the CRTC
as they only care about $$$ not goodwill.



Eric972

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reply to TSI Marc

Sorry but I'm late to the party. What is CBB? Can someone point me to some info or give me the 50 words or less version?

Thanks!


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Capacity Based Billing (CBB) refers to the CRTC regulated pricing scheme under which third-party ISPs pay for link capacity (gigabits/second) to/from the Telco/Cableco's.

Currently the rates are artificially inflated by a factor of 10-20X over what link capacity for other purposes costs, and the CRTC is due to rule this week on a revised rate structure.


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reply to bitchtorn

said by bitchtorn:

Not sure why they need a "late" release.

Bell/Rogers/Videotron already got the memo ahead of time - and updated packages to include unlimited. (for a cost)


Its probably more like the CRTC actually dug into the costing reports, and based on the questions, they know the rates are dropping.
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said by resa1983:

said by bitchtorn:

Not sure why they need a "late" release.

Bell/Rogers/Videotron already got the memo ahead of time - and updated packages to include unlimited. (for a cost)


Its probably more like the CRTC actually dug into the costing reports, and based on the questions, they know the rates are dropping.

I tend to agree with this assesment.


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reply to TSI Marc

Unfortunately, while CBB costs may be 10x+ what they should be, most people expect the CRTC to drop them by at most 3x.
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said by Guspaz:

Unfortunately, while CBB costs may be 10x+ what they should be, most people expect the CRTC to drop them by at most 3x.

Baby steps... 3 weeks ago nobody thought the incumbents would offer unlimited ever.

Our situation is not ideal, but it is looking to be WAY better than it was 2 years ago

bbhog

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reply to Guspaz

said by Guspaz:

Unfortunately, while CBB costs may be 10x+ what they should be, most people expect the CRTC to drop them by at most 3x.

If they did a 3x drop what would the rate end up being in $/gbps say in Rogers land?

Satya

join:2011-09-11
Mississauga, ON
reply to TSI Marc

if the indies ever offer the 150/10 month for unlimited bw for 100 bucks a month or even with a quota of 1TB a month will jump on it in a heartbeat. I really care about the upload speed.



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said by bbhog:

If they did a 3x drop what would the rate end up being in $/gbps say in Rogers land?

I was approximating; the expectation is that none of the rates will go below $8k/gigabit
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Satya

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8000 is not cheap :O


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reply to Dunlop

said by Dunlop:

Baby steps... 3 weeks ago nobody thought the incumbents would offer unlimited ever.

Our situation is not ideal, but it is looking to be WAY better than it was 2 years ago

Baby steps my ass.

If the CRTC cuts prices to 1/3 what they are today, when in fact they should be cut by 90%, do you really think they'll entertain an R&V from CNOC for the unreduced amount before, say, 2017 by the time a decision is rendered? In the interim, the incumbents will still be laughing all the way to the bank.